D-ya not?:
It’s rare to get an insight into the abuse that goes on in the nhs. So thanks for that!
I find it abhorrent the way you are working the system. Nhs in crisis…What crisis?
Hahahaha you make me genuinely laugh…with the hypocrisy…like no-one on this forum wouldn’t exploit a system that exploited them first!!!
Who you kidding bud 
Seriously?
I reckon the NHS system has more than “worked the system” to abuse “nobodysdriving”…as ever in reality you can only play this game for a finite period of time. If it goes on for too long unfortunately said player gets bitten and then taken for pay back. This can happen in a multitude of ways.
And if you’re are not silly in the head/gullible. I know we’d all do it on here or have done it too our employers when the ■■■■ taking becomes too much. 
Noone is ever going to look after anyone in this world, let alone this country at least, so you do what you need to make life work for you. If that involves playing the system so be it. Been like that since the world began be it nature or a “democratic capitalistic state” 
You must be a Daily Mail reader using the word “abhorrent”.
Next you’ll be using the clinche old “skool” Trucknet favourite…Think of the children.
Let me guess you subscribe to the thought that all of HGV driving is impossibly hard and that there aren’t sectors that can be good for all of us personally yet seem like madness to others
Classic. Best laugh in ages "D ya not?.
Sorry I went off thread nobodysdriving.
C
nobodysdriving:
I am looking at different companies/jobs etc as I am planning on leaving my job at some point and go back into tramping.
Some of the companies on the application form ask you ‘yearly salary expectation’
why do they ask this■■?
Dear Nobodysdriving,
Sorry to hear about current job that is awful when it gets to that stage. You ain’t alone I’ve got two family members in the same profession saying the same stuff as you and still in it…just. I’ve also got one university friend who’s been doing it less time than you and has already quit it and got very disappointed in herself because of doing that but couldn’t carry on anymore.
The best way to approach this type of question is state what you think you are worth to the industry with your experience and what you can offer them. I’ve done it this way in other industries before in either of two reasonable ways:
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State the industry average in your area, as you truly believe it is at the moment, if you think you have what they require. That’s a fair starting wage as you’re not a complete newbie. 
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Speak to a driver in your area, find out what they genuinely do in tramping and what’s expected of them. And if they are nice (and appear truthful) what they’re actually earning for the amount of years experience they have and job they’re doing. If you’re sure you can do what they reckon you have to do and have given you a current wage they do it for. Pitch your wage expectations at that or if the average is higher, pitch it at that
Never undersell yourself…I did that once and got burnt bad…don’t follow in my footsteps as you’ll end up resenting the job you chose toundersell yourself in.
I know this might be your way out of current career nightmare to a job that will give you more or even a small piece of happiness. Learn from my mistake 
Unfortunately I don’t know enough about the state of general haulage at all to advice what a good salary would be…let alone for your area. 
On a separate note I’ve steered away from salaries and gone for hourly paid work as I’ve found that has been way may more fairer to both parties for work undertaken/completed. Also I’ve found I don’t resent some of the long hours I’ve had to put in some times.
Good luck with your decision.
C
There’s no such thing as the “industry average” in any area.
Take 10 bods all with differing wage expectations, and the “average” will be an amount that not one of the ten quoted. That’s the nature of “averages”.
If being interviewed by a large company, the question “what are your salary expectations” is actually prompting you for the answer phrase:-
“I’d jump at the chance to work for your prestigious firm for minimum wages. I’ll just go on bended knee here, and if you’d care to present your ■■■■■ for me to lick, I’ll be right on it!”
Winseer:
There’s no such thing as the “industry average” in any area.
Hey Winseer,
See you struggled with English like me, two chances to get a pass, yet still ■■■■ at it! But we did it, they can’t talk it away from us now! 
Ok turn the word “average” on it’s head and in its pure statistical form you can exchange it with other methods of statistical analysis.
Be it the mode of the quoted wages found, which could get you closer to the ten quotes you discovered.
Orrrrrr, If you wanted to be a little more facetious you could do the median of the figures given. That could then get you very close within the similar area of most of the figures quoted.
The bods (wife look over shoulder just now and corrected grammar there as I said bod’s, which is incorrect supposedly - still learning then ) who created the question won’t understand how you’ve established the figure or care because of their lack of mathematical knowledge.
As they use the term “expectations” and I don’t think that is a mathematical equation yet…might be at Oxford university. So only you can work out your expectations based on any means you desire including using any statistical calculation to form a figure of which you wish to be considered for. There ain’t no right answer is there really.
I think the best way is too look at your dedicated outgoings and what you want to do in your free time and how much that costs and base your figures on that. If your sector can realistically afford that pitch it in.
Never undersell yourself in any form of employment.
C