American trucks look yuckkk
Now THAT, my friends, is a truck!
newmercman:
do the same mileage day in and day out (like we do) in a European truck and you’d be in traction
Well thats rubbish to start with. As for the rest how many of them are European inventions tested in the US because of their much more lax regulations?
newmercman:
Muckaway:
They’ve not evolved much in looks since Smokey and the Bandit was filmed, so why do people love the look of them? I heard someone in a model shop today saying how great they are compared to European “rigs”, and thought I can’t tell the difference between a modern yank and one 20 years old. European stuff stands out a mile.May be a good idea to find out if what you say is true before you start typing
Same old crap gets thrown out there all the time
FYI, the next Daf engine for Euro 6 has been on the road in North America for a couple of years…
The new World engine for all Daimler AG trucks (Mercedes Benz for you) has been on the roads in North America for 5yrs or so…
High Torque, low rpm engines, started in North America…
Air suspension, started in North America…
Electronic fuel injection (EDC) started in North America…
Adaptive cruise, started in North America…
GPS linked cruise, started in North America…
If you’d ever driven an American truck you would know that they’re much better at doing their job than the European ones are at doing theirs
I’ve just done 1355kms (legally) today in my 05 Peterbilt 379, it’s got 1.2million miles on it and it’s as tight as the day it came out of the factory, it’s that comfy to drive that even after a nearly 900mile shift, I’ve come home and started poncing about on here, do the same mileage day in and day out (like we do) in a European truck and you’d be in traction
Blimey it’s taken a while but you’ve now finally seen the light. 
having that much living space must be fantastic when you’re away all week though!
never really understood why the Scania longline and Volo XL have never really caught on. there’s been a massive shift away from ‘standard’ cabs to ‘big’ cabs in the last 10 years or so (does Volvo even make ‘normal’ cab FHs any more?) yet the latest cabs are still as rare as rocking horse s***!
talking of bigger cabs reminded me of this pic I took in the 90s - the result of a european/US truck mating experiment!
EastAnglianTrucker:
Driving an American truck in the UK, even a modern one, doing traditional UK work - and that includes tramping - would no doubt have all the fanboys creaming their strides, but actually having to drive it, would be a pain in the [zb]!Now I’m trundling around in Scanias, Volvos and Dafs, doing what would be considered local work in Oz, but with 20 times more traffic, and I’d hate to have even the KW with it’s Fuller box to do it in.
That said, it was an iconic truck!
How is driving something with a nasty heavy slow synchro box better than something with a fuller in it remembering that even the old TM had a light air assisted clutch.
And what makes the average Euro or Scandinavian wagon better than this wether it’s Euro work or the States,at the time or even now. 
I used to LOVE the Kenworth aerodyne when I was a kid! bedroom walls were covered in posters of them!
switchlogic:
newmercman:
do the same mileage day in and day out (like we do) in a European truck and you’d be in tractionWell thats rubbish to start with. As for the rest how many of them are European inventions tested in the US because of their much more lax regulations?
To be fair I done a six hundred mile trip in Canada in Marks mates truck and the roads are way worse than any European motorway at 70 mph and I think it would be quite jaring in a typical swb euro tractor but I still think a European truck is more refined.
A us truck is great for there or oz but in Europe no thanks.
Horses for courses.
kr79:
switchlogic:
newmercman:
do the same mileage day in and day out (like we do) in a European truck and you’d be in tractionWell thats rubbish to start with. As for the rest how many of them are European inventions tested in the US because of their much more lax regulations?
To be fair I done a six hundred mile trip in Canada in Marks mates truck and the roads are way worse than any European motorway at 70 mph and I think it would be quite jaring in a typical swb euro tractor but I still think a European truck is more refined.
A us truck is great for there or oz but in Europe no thanks.
Horses for courses.
A US truck and a European truck have different conditions to work in, if I were awarding points for that, the US truck would get more than the Euro one because it is more capable of doing its specific job 
Even in urban conditions the US trucks are ok, because the urban conditions they work in are bigger than they are in Europe, so that doesn’t come into it, a truck that is too big for the place it’s in is a PITA, no matter where in the World it is
I wouldn’t want one in the UK or Europe, then they would be a nightmare 
I can only speak for myself…But I don`t like the conventional(Bonneted) trucks, I like the cabover trucks.
Why? because when I was a kid, the yank tanks were larger and more luxurious than the UK or European equivalent, looked totally different, but most importantly, they sounded far better.
I am an audiophile, always have been, always will be…Thats what gets it for me 
I seem to remember NMM arguing with Carryfart a while back at how he thought Euro trucks were better. Fairly sharp U Turn there old chap, David Cameron would be proud.
switchlogic:
I seem to remember NMM arguing with Carryfart a while back at how he thought Euro trucks were better. Fairly sharp U Turn there old chap, David Cameron would be proud.
I would never recommend using an America truck in Europe, they’re just too big and would be a total PITA, but do not confuse that with me thinking that Euro trucks are better than American trucks, because, as I’ve said many times, the US trucks are better at their job than the Euro ones
The American Volvos are nice, the looks and build quality of a European motor, with the space of an American one.
2008 MAN TGS vs 1954 Peterbilt 351
The Pete has so much class
Gembo says
“When they had the likes of Challengers, Camero’s, Pontiac, The Road Runner, Mustang etc etc, WTF did we have■■?
Oh yeah, the Maxi, the Marina, the Mini, the Minor, the ■■■■■■ and that crappy MBGT rubbish!”
So we didn’t have E types, Aston Martins, Morgan’s, Lotus, AC, TVR etc etc and that’s some of the brits. If we go euro and look at Porche, Ferrari, Lambo’s etc etc . Let’s face it the USA wasn’t in the same class, which is why Ford had to build a car to win Le Mans and why for years all Indy cars were built in England.
Beauty of it is that we still have the likes of the Challenger,Camaro and Mustang ,only with optional superchargers in 2012 .Not only that ,but Joe Public can still afford to run them as an everyday motor here as opposed to paying a fortune to keep a Focus Diesel on the driveway in Britain.
I just think they look awesome! Lol.
flat to the mat:
Beauty of it is that we still have the likes of the Challenger,Camaro and Mustang ,only with optional superchargers in 2012 .Not only that ,but Joe Public can still afford to run them as an everyday motor here as opposed to paying a fortune to keep a Focus Diesel on the driveway in Britain.
Yes but my Nan on her Zimmerframe corners better than any of the above mentioned. Give me a Mini Cooper SD, DPF delete and remap. And I’ll leave a lot of things in my rear view in a welsh country lane.
Don’t forget the Ford that won Le Mans was originally the Lola GT40 designed and built by Eric Broadley in Huntingdon.