I was tipping a bit of cream myself Christmas day…
Anyway back to work Wednesday for 3 days, no rest for the whipped.
robroy:
I was talking to a mate on the phone last night, he is on a 4 on 4 off rota. He has no ties so did not mind working Christmas and Boxing day at all.
The job was take a trailer down to Kent for one drop, reload and and leave it to ship out, change over and back.
When he discovered his firm (small firm 4 trucks) intended to pay him normal time because it was ‘his rota’ he told them he was not prepared to do so, but had no problem working it, but only for a FAIR rate of pay under the circumstances.
They told him they would get one of the other drivers to do it, but they all said no as they had kids at home.
He got double and a half time for Christmas, (tried for treble but compromised) night out plus a tenner, and double time for Boxing Day running back in…turned out a decent earner in the end, then he had 4 days off…result.
It just goes to prove that they do try it on, and will allow and encourage a driver to proceed with whatever he is daft enough to do.
It also proves that it is an option to say no provisionally but then negotiate.
Family run firm by the sounds of things. I doubt I could say the same for my lot (large “logistics” company).
Radar19:
robroy:
I was talking to a mate on the phone last night, he is on a 4 on 4 off rota. He has no ties so did not mind working Christmas and Boxing day at all.
The job was take a trailer down to Kent for one drop, reload and and leave it to ship out, change over and back.
When he discovered his firm (small firm 4 trucks) intended to pay him normal time because it was ‘his rota’ he told them he was not prepared to do so, but had no problem working it, but only for a FAIR rate of pay under the circumstances.
They told him they would get one of the other drivers to do it, but they all said no as they had kids at home.
He got double and a half time for Christmas, (tried for treble but compromised) night out plus a tenner, and double time for Boxing Day running back in…turned out a decent earner in the end, then he had 4 days off…result.
It just goes to prove that they do try it on, and will allow and encourage a driver to proceed with whatever he is daft enough to do.
It also proves that it is an option to say no provisionally but then negotiate.Family run firm by the sounds of things. I doubt I could say the same for my lot (large “logistics” company).
Despite the driver shortage myth, I would say that there will always be jobs at the type of ‘‘logistics’’ up their own arse firms, and they are pretty much all the same, so if push came to shove (and unless you really liked it) it wouldn’t be the end of the world if you jacked it for another one after Christmas.
A bit drastic maybe for many, but it would depend if you valued your family more than the likes of Stobarts.
I reckon any co in any industry have a ■■■■ cheek expecting a guy to work single time at Christmas.
It’s just a recent thing as far as I remember, and another nail in the coffin of companies treating workforces fairly.
Got done by 12 last fri , xmas eve , xmas day , Boxing Day and today off 
, been great after years of just xmas day off .
Radar19:
robroy:
I was talking to a mate on the phone last night, he is on a 4 on 4 off rota. He has no ties so did not mind working Christmas and Boxing day at all.
The job was take a trailer down to Kent for one drop, reload and and leave it to ship out, change over and back.
When he discovered his firm (small firm 4 trucks) intended to pay him normal time because it was ‘his rota’ he told them he was not prepared to do so, but had no problem working it, but only for a FAIR rate of pay under the circumstances.
They told him they would get one of the other drivers to do it, but they all said no as they had kids at home.
He got double and a half time for Christmas, (tried for treble but compromised) night out plus a tenner, and double time for Boxing Day running back in…turned out a decent earner in the end, then he had 4 days off…result.
It just goes to prove that they do try it on, and will allow and encourage a driver to proceed with whatever he is daft enough to do.
It also proves that it is an option to say no provisionally but then negotiate.Family run firm by the sounds of things. I doubt I could say the same for my lot (large “logistics” company).
It wouldn’t happen in a bigger company because they’d find some “yes man” who’d do it for standard pay and that sets the standard for Christmas working.
Whatever the shift pattern, Christmas and boxing day should be a special case.
The only thing that would get me working Christmas day would be a load of urgent medical supplies or disaster relief stuff due to flooding or some thing similar , then that’s goes with the meaning of Christmas etc
other wise Zb off to working
robroy:
Radar19:
robroy:
I was talking to a mate on the phone last night, he is on a 4 on 4 off rota. He has no ties so did not mind working Christmas and Boxing day at all.
The job was take a trailer down to Kent for one drop, reload and and leave it to ship out, change over and back.
When he discovered his firm (small firm 4 trucks) intended to pay him normal time because it was ‘his rota’ he told them he was not prepared to do so, but had no problem working it, but only for a FAIR rate of pay under the circumstances.
They told him they would get one of the other drivers to do it, but they all said no as they had kids at home.
He got double and a half time for Christmas, (tried for treble but compromised) night out plus a tenner, and double time for Boxing Day running back in…turned out a decent earner in the end, then he had 4 days off…result.
It just goes to prove that they do try it on, and will allow and encourage a driver to proceed with whatever he is daft enough to do.
It also proves that it is an option to say no provisionally but then negotiate.Family run firm by the sounds of things. I doubt I could say the same for my lot (large “logistics” company).
Despite the driver shortage myth, I would say that there will always be jobs at the type of ‘‘logistics’’ up their own arse firms, and they are pretty much all the same, so if push came to shove (and unless you really liked it) it wouldn’t be the end of the world if you jacked it for another one after Christmas.
A bit drastic maybe for many, but it would depend if you valued your family more than the likes of Stobarts.
I reckon any co in any industry have a [zb] cheek expecting a guy to work single time at Christmas.
It’s just a recent thing as far as I remember, and another nail in the coffin of companies treating workforces fairly.
I’m trying to get in to a family run firm just up the road from me, they are starting the processes in January but they remember who I am because I phone up around the second week of December and he recognized my voice etc and I’m still top of the list so fingers crossed! I don’t regret working for this large company. They gave me a start when no one else would.
largebloke1969:
wrighty:
carryfast-yeti:
wrighty:
I am tipping cream in Westbury this morning, don’t know what I’m doing after this yet but finish tomorrow for two days off then back in over the new year…triple-time no doubt?
Oh yes wouldn’t be doing it otherwise, tipped Westbury swapped trailers at Stoke now waiting to tip at Foston…would still rather be sat at home with the family eating Christmas dinner but that will have to wait till tomorrow.
Thought it was just 60 quid extra u boys got
why would you think that…? triple time Christmas day and new years day.