darren1000:
Who would be perpared to do a mass sick day to support the tanker drivers?
Most fuel tanker drivers earn far more than most on here and I am damm sure they wouldn’t stop work to support you 
Let them fight the good fight for themselves, not that I don’t support them because they are doing what most drivers should do, fighting for a better life.
Training or familierisation?
the report I read specified training.
MikeCunn:
shuttlespanker:
They are already overpaid enough as it is, and they want to strike to get more money, sack the [zb] lot of them for all I careOverpaid or paid more than you?
Would you turn down £45,000 per year to do your job and tell the management, “No thanks, you keep it. I’m paid enough.”? I know I wouldn’t.
The attitude of drivers in general [zb] stinks. Overpaid because they’re on more money than most? They’re on roughly double what I’m on. Am I jealous? No. Would I take a job on £45,000 per year if offered? Hell yes!
As for would I take a sick day in protest with all other drivers? If all, and I mean all, HGV drivers did it to prove a point, then I would too. Otherwise no, it’s meaningless. Drivers being drivers, we’ll never get a consensus so no, I shan’t be taking a sick day.
Well done mike I couldn’t have put it better myself.
Might have taken a day off in support years ago,not now though,it’s everyman/woman for him/herself.
Look after number 1,the rest can look after itself.
Selfish ? Och aye !
HTH.
Forget tanker drivers. We should have a general strike. EVERYBODY out.
There was an MP bemoaning on the radio yesterday that a bomb disposal expert gets paid less than a tanker driver. Well, pay the bomb expert a lot more. Nobody pulled up the MP about the fact that they get paid more than a tanker driver or a bomb disposal expert.
Can’t legally go on strike in support of tanker drivers but if the whole country said enough is enough and shut UK down for day that may have more effect. Not holding my breath waiting for that one.
Diversion2:
Forget tanker drivers. We should have a general strike. EVERYBODY out.
Great idea - let’s all have more money. The government can always print some more if there’s a shortage.
Offer the tanker drivers free hats. They’d soon back down then. I suggests tin hats.
Would I support big headed bully boy socialists like Nick Dennis the brain surgeon truck driver.
Best truck driver in the world, unite union rep and regional negotiator, instigator of immingham strike but happily breaking the 2000 blockade that’s solidarity brother.
Loves his name in the press better than articles in Socialist News and the Socialist etc. Where he has stated an all out strike will bring the country the bosses and the government to it’s knees in days. Safety, wages or people like Nick’s ego at the expense of even their own members.
Nick last one out turn off the light 
If tanker drivers are the best shouldn’t they all work for stobart.
kr79:
If tanker drivers are the best shouldn’t they all work for stobart.
That’s next year you’re thinking of.
switchlogic:
Offer the tanker drivers free hats. They’d soon back down then. I suggests tin hats.
They could cause a spark and then they might go on strike over safety. 
IMO, its not the drivers who are at fault, its their union, the drivers are just over paid puppets on strings. Im a member of the RMT (rail maritime & transport) only because they will protect my arse if the company i work for try to pull one over. Other than that, any union driven workforce are a pile of ■■■■ for the most part! I see it every dam day. They protect the lazy tired ■■■■■■■■ while the grafters among us have to bend to their ■■■■ polices.
Unions are greedy, militant and driven by £££££££ , thats one reason why this country is going down the U-bend.
Yep
I volunteer and do sunday off
Not a chance,would they come out and support the general haulage lads if they came out on strike??,errr no i don’t think they would and the way some of them drive as they come out of Kingsbury and down to jcn 9 on the M42 they want sacking never mind going out on strike!!!
Nah,let them get on with it because i don’t think they’ll come out.
It’s quite simple and I’m surprised nobody has thought of it really … Get your class 1, get some experiance, get your ADR and then apply like the tankers drivers did. They are not something special they just applied like everybody can, if you fit criteria you will get a job.
They are paid the going rate for the job, why should they take pay cuts ? Just because that industry pays more good for them for getting such a good deal in the first place.
jessicas dad:
It’s quite simple and I’m surprised nobody has thought of it really … Get your class 1, get some experiance, get your ADR and then apply like the tankers drivers did. They are not something special they just applied like everybody can, if you fit criteria you will get a job.
Do it before the Asian and African get the Job
Have the fuel tanker drivers employed by any of the companies who sub their work from the fuel companies supported any of their fellow workers who work for the same haulage companies, many of who are trained to the same standards as they are ie adr but are working in other industries ie chemicals but are paid considerably less.
Same firm, same training, same job( driving tankers)
They wont support drivers working for the same company as they do, why should anyone support them 
Carl:
quote from a tanker driver from the bbc news website
And the 49-year-old said there were important differences between tanker drivers and other HGV drivers.“I’m like a brain surgeon consultant in my line of work,” he said. "People want to know that each truck is driven by a highly-qualified professional driver.
"We can’t park and leave our vehicles under ADR [European agreement concerning the carriage of dangerous goods by road] regulations as we must always be in view of our vehicles to be able to react in case of emergencies.“So we don’t technically ever have a break away from our job. We sign declarations certifying that fuel is safe… so we carry all that responsibility with us all the time.”
This is a standard sentence from ADR, when driving ADR you need at all time be in control of your vehicle and be able to act in case of emergency…Nothing new than Mr. Fuel tanker driver.
In fact, fuel tanker driver is actually a pish in the park.
If I show it you, you can learn it very quickly.
It’s a “gravity” delivery of a very low viscosity product, in other words it just runs out.
Most part of the training is about the “computer” on board who measures the delivered amounts, so the oil company get paid, and the forecourt owner don’t get ripped off.
If you put many fuel tanker drivers (Most are restricted to Class 3 ADR historical [this could have been changed since I did it]) on an delivery of high viscosity products with pumps or pneumatic discharge (pressurised tank) they would run a mile, because they don’t have a clue.
In the other way around, any experienced ADR tanker driver could do a fuel delivery with a very restricted instruction.
Many ADR tanker drivers have experience with “Vapour return systems”, Ground to avoid static electricity etc. nothing new here.
I really hate when people think they are better than the rest, your lucky you got a good job, keep going, moan to your Boss but leave the rest of the world out of it, your problems are yours, why would they ever need to become mine.
The fact is, everybody get naked born with SFA, and stink at their first dump in the morning, A fuel tanker driver really don’t smell to roses in the morning at that point.
jessicas dad:
It’s quite simple and I’m surprised nobody has thought of it really … Get your class 1, get some experiance, get your ADR and then apply like the tankers drivers did. They are not something special they just applied like everybody can, if you fit criteria you will get a job.They are paid the going rate for the job, why should they take pay cuts ? Just because that industry pays more good for them for getting such a good deal in the first place.
I think that making entry into their closed shop harder for newcomers is one of the things the Unite Drivers want to strike about…
Give it a go, at least you’ll be well paid JD and you are almost sure to get every Easter* off.
*Other holiday periods may be used as leverage against the nasty Employers.
W
caledoniandream:
Carl:
quote from a tanker driver from the bbc news website
And the 49-year-old said there were important differences between tanker drivers and other HGV drivers.“I’m like a brain surgeon consultant in my line of work,” he said. "People want to know that each truck is driven by a highly-qualified professional driver.
"We can’t park and leave our vehicles under ADR [European agreement concerning the carriage of dangerous goods by road] regulations as we must always be in view of our vehicles to be able to react in case of emergencies.“So we don’t technically ever have a break away from our job. We sign declarations certifying that fuel is safe… so we carry all that responsibility with us all the time.”
This is a standard sentence from ADR, when driving ADR you need at all time be in control of your vehicle and be able to act in case of emergency…Nothing new than Mr. Fuel tanker driver.
In fact, fuel tanker driver is actually a pish in the park.
If I show it you, you can learn it very quickly.
It’s a “gravity” delivery of a very low viscosity product, in other words it just runs out.
Most part of the training is about the “computer” on board who measures the delivered amounts, so the oil company get paid, and the forecourt owner don’t get ripped off.If you put many fuel tanker drivers (Most are restricted to Class 3 ADR historical [this could have been changed since I did it]) on an delivery of high viscosity products with pumps or pneumatic discharge (pressurised tank) they would run a mile, because they don’t have a clue.
In the other way around, any experienced ADR tanker driver could do a fuel delivery with a very restricted instruction.
Many ADR tanker drivers have experience with “Vapour return systems”, Ground to avoid static electricity etc. nothing new here.I really hate when people think they are better than the rest, your lucky you got a good job, keep going, moan to your Boss but leave the rest of the world out of it, your problems are yours, why would they ever need to become mine.
The fact is, everybody get naked born with SFA, and stink at their first dump in the morning, A fuel tanker driver really don’t smell to roses in the morning at that point.
Well said!