My mates truck was taken out by a agency driver today who followed his sat - nav down a road that got narrower and narrower until he came off the road and ended up in a ditch ( I assume he couldn’t go back ) ,in the process of the wrecker trying too pull it out its tipped over ( box on ) .heard t.o telling my mate who looked mortified ,it never had a mark on the truck like new .
Now putting aside all this ,who carries the can for it going over whilst trying too pull it out ,would recovery warn company it could happen ,wouldn’t they put chains or something onto box too stabilise it whilst trying too pull it out ( Jamie Davies would 
) .or would it be road was very narrow by the sound of it so no way of trying to stabilise it .
N.b any one any photos of it ,just too cheer my mate up 
didn’t know wrecker company’s used agency drivers as well! 
I’d imagine that the initial bill would be passed onto whichever agency supplied the driver, said agency would then attempt to pass it onto the recovery Co.
Edit to add; having done a fair bit of heavy recovery in the past I couldn’t possibly comment on what went wrong without knowing all the facts, but I will say that if I were ever in the position of having to recover a potentially unstable vehicle then at the very minimum I’d have another heavy there to provide a “check pull”.
If it was in a ditch then its the insurance company of the haulier that picks up the bill. The haulier can try to claim the excess off the agency but ultimately the vehicle is insured by the haulier, not the agency. The recovery company usually bear no liability.
Think as for the recovery damage it’ll be a waver unless it was without care and correct practice. As it’s been said full disclosure would be needed with photographic evidence to excessive damage.
How fast wa satnav going 
My daughter used to work for a truck repairer in Portsmouth. They sent a wrecker to recover a broken down car transporter fully loaded with Solihull’s finest. The whole lot ended up on its side on the A34 (bet some of you were stuck while they cleared it) and the final bill, for the recovery team’s insurance, was over a million squids. They had visits from H&S and VOSA too:)
Santa:
My daughter used to work for a truck repairer in Portsmouth. They sent a wrecker to recover a broken down car transporter fully loaded with Solihull’s finest. The whole lot ended up on its side on the A34 (bet some of you were stuck while they cleared it) and the final bill, for the recovery team’s insurance, was over a million squids. They had visits from H&S and VOSA too:)
I would say that the circumstances are different between an accident and breakdown
Conor:
If it was in a ditch then its the insurance company of the haulier that picks up the bill. The haulier can try to claim the excess off the agency but ultimately the vehicle is insured by the haulier, not the agency. The recovery company usually bear no liability.
Nonsense, of course the recovery company could bear liability.
They may potentially be able to protect themselves with contractual terms and conditions with the insurers or haulier hiring them but if litigated against they may not be enough to protect them but obviously they will have their own indemnity insurance.
Santa:
My daughter used to work for a truck repairer in Portsmouth. They sent a wrecker to recover a broken down car transporter fully loaded with Solihull’s finest. The whole lot ended up on its side on the A34 (bet some of you were stuck while they cleared it) and the final bill, for the recovery team’s insurance, was over a million squids. They had visits from H&S and VOSA too:)
Remember that one Santa. Back in 2012. Was an STVA / Automove transporter and the Wrecker driver was going Southbound down the bank at Whitchurch A34. Story within the industry was that he was going far too fast, which drawbar car transporters aren’t fond of going downhill, and he’s lost the transporter off the back which ended up across all four lanes of the A34 North and South. Luckily no other vehicles were involved.
It made the national media but once the story broke saying the 29 year old wrecker driver had been arrested, no other information was forthcoming. Can you fill in the blanks?
dozy:
My mates truck was taken out by a agency driver today who followed his sat - nav down a road that got narrower and narrower until he came off the road and ended up in a ditch ( I assume he couldn’t go back ) ,in the process of the wrecker trying too pull it out its tipped over ( box on ) .heard t.o telling my mate who looked mortified ,it never had a mark on the truck like new .
Now putting aside all this ,who carries the can for it going over whilst trying too pull it out ,would recovery warn company it could happen ,wouldn’t they put chains or something onto box too stabilise it whilst trying too pull it out ( Jamie Davies would
N.b any one any photos of it ,just too cheer my mate up
Was it your mates truck, or your mates companys truck, agency truck drivers don’t have insurance with the agency if they did the agency would be in the transport business.
dozy:
I took my truck out today and followed my sat-nav down a road that got narrower and narrower until I came off the road and ended up in a ditch…
FTFY
Lank:
Santa:
My daughter used to work for a truck repairer in Portsmouth. They sent a wrecker to recover a broken down car transporter fully loaded with Solihull’s finest. The whole lot ended up on its side on the A34 (bet some of you were stuck while they cleared it) and the final bill, for the recovery team’s insurance, was over a million squids. They had visits from H&S and VOSA too:)Remember that one Santa. Back in 2012. Was an STVA / Automove transporter and the Wrecker driver was going Southbound down the bank at Whitchurch A34. Story within the industry was that he was going far too fast, which drawbar car transporters aren’t fond of going downhill, and he’s lost the transporter off the back which ended up across all four lanes of the A34 North and South. Luckily no other vehicles were involved.
It made the national media but once the story broke saying the 29 year old wrecker driver had been arrested, no other information was forthcoming. Can you fill in the blanks?
I believe the conclusion of trucknet csi at the time was not chained on the forks properly.
Own Account Driver:
Lank:
Santa:
My daughter used to work for a truck repairer in Portsmouth. They sent a wrecker to recover a broken down car transporter fully loaded with Solihull’s finest. The whole lot ended up on its side on the A34 (bet some of you were stuck while they cleared it) and the final bill, for the recovery team’s insurance, was over a million squids. They had visits from H&S and VOSA too:)Remember that one Santa. Back in 2012. Was an STVA / Automove transporter and the Wrecker driver was going Southbound down the bank at Whitchurch A34. Story within the industry was that he was going far too fast, which drawbar car transporters aren’t fond of going downhill, and he’s lost the transporter off the back which ended up across all four lanes of the A34 North and South. Luckily no other vehicles were involved.
It made the national media but once the story broke saying the 29 year old wrecker driver had been arrested, no other information was forthcoming. Can you fill in the blanks?
I believe the conclusion of trucknet csi at the time was not chained on the forks properly.
This, but with a combination of violent fish tailing due to going down the hill too fast. The wrecker stayed upright tho, as with a violent bang it threw the transporter off the back. Transporter driver got out the wrecker to find his wagon all over the road! Was just curious as to what if any action the wrecker driver faced, as if I remember correctly, didn’t this close the A34 both ways for 24 hours?
nightline:
dozy:
My mates truck was taken out by a agency driver today who followed his sat - nav down a road that got narrower and narrower until he came off the road and ended up in a ditch ( I assume he couldn’t go back ) ,in the process of the wrecker trying too pull it out its tipped over ( box on ) .heard t.o telling my mate who looked mortified ,it never had a mark on the truck like new .
Now putting aside all this ,who carries the can for it going over whilst trying too pull it out ,would recovery warn company it could happen ,wouldn’t they put chains or something onto box too stabilise it whilst trying too pull it out ( Jamie Davies would
N.b any one any photos of it ,just too cheer my mate upWas it your mates truck, or your mates companys truck, agency truck drivers don’t have insurance with the agency if they did the agency would be in the transport business.
Agencies do have insurance and they are liable for any negligent costs
scanny77:
nightline:
dozy:
My mates truck was taken out by a agency driver today who followed his sat - nav down a road that got narrower and narrower until he came off the road and ended up in a ditch ( I assume he couldn’t go back ) ,in the process of the wrecker trying too pull it out its tipped over ( box on ) .heard t.o telling my mate who looked mortified ,it never had a mark on the truck like new .
Now putting aside all this ,who carries the can for it going over whilst trying too pull it out ,would recovery warn company it could happen ,wouldn’t they put chains or something onto box too stabilise it whilst trying too pull it out ( Jamie Davies would
N.b any one any photos of it ,just too cheer my mate upWas it your mates truck, or your mates companys truck, agency truck drivers don’t have insurance with the agency if they did the agency would be in the transport business.
Agencies do have insurance and they are liable for any negligent costs
I don’t think he’s on about the agency or the agency driver.
I think he means that whilst being recovered, the recovery driver managed to overturn the (previously unmarked) new truck and it has now caused substantial damage that wasn’t there (even after his “mate” went off road with it)
In this case I would imagine the cost will come down to the recovery operative as they have been negligent in their actions (this is assuming they didn’t take all reasonable steps to prevent further damage or get a waiver signed absolving themselves of responsibility)
End of the day, let the insurance firms battle it out - that’s what we pay them the premiums for.
The truck opetators insurance will pay on this.
As the truck was stuck and required recovery the first thing is its down at owners risk. Unlike a break down which would be on recovery firms insurance.
Done many a stuck vehical in the lakes and the said operators had to sign a disclaimer to the fact that if it got damaged it was due to their negligence in getting stuck in the first place.
Mainly you get stuck you pay for any damage getting it out dozy.
Otherwise most recovery firms wouldn’t even touch it. why try to rescue a muppet if it’s gonna cost you.
Thanks all ,as micks said I wasn’t on about the driver of the truck ,it was more about who would pay for the damage caused by it rolling over whilst being recovered ,but I guess if the road ended up that narrow the driver fell off it ,then it would be difficult to get anything at the side too steady it whilst trying too pull it out
Contraflow:
dozy:
I took my truck out today and followed my sat-nav down a road that got narrower and narrower until I came off the road and ended up in a ditch…FTFY
if we do ever end up working on flats delivering anything and everything too building sites 
,I’ve no doubt I’ll be posting more than my fair share of its fallen off who pays for it ,my Tom/tom classic has took me down a lane ,I’ve knocked a wall over ,hit a house and am now stuck in a field whilst trying too turn round ,any one in the area who can help
But not too blame for this one ,but give it time 
last agency to call us, giving my all his bs, told thats all fine but if one of your drives is in my truck and he/she bends it/dints it/crash’s it your paying for it, he then put the phone down