Glasgow: 7.25 for driving sprinter vans. Not good for casual job (during the teaching periods), especially that there is no minimum 8 hour thing - you work three hours, you got three hours of pay. Still better than class 2 agency though.
It goes much better though when I do long runs, as they pay 24/7 for the time I am away (unless I sleep in the hotel, then they take 8 hours of my salary for each night spent there (and pay for hotel, off course)).
Agencies Wrexham, Chester, Widnes, Ellesmere Port
Days
£8.50/h Statutory breaks unpaid
time and a half after eight hours
or
£9.00/h flat rate Statutory breaks unpaid
or
£90 per shift
Saturdays +20-50%
Don’t do Sundays or nights
so working a 40 hour week with 4 weeks holidays = £16320pa before tax, NI, licences, PPE and medicals
Euro:
Agencies Wrexham, Chester, Widnes, Ellesmere Port
Days
£8.50/h Statutory breaks unpaid
time and a half after eight hours
or
£9.00/h flat rate Statutory breaks unpaid
or
£90 per shift
Saturdays +20-50%
Don’t do Sundays or nights
so working a 40 hour week with 4 weeks holidays = £16320pa before tax, NI, licences, PPE and medicals
That is assuming you can get 40 hours a week. The only agency work I could get in that area just over a year ago was nights with Stobart or Downton.
I’m earning £9.90ph working in a factory doing general maintenance, i work a 37 hour week and if there is any overtime i get time and a half… I now stick to driving a tipper at weekends for my cousins that have their own haulage business, could’nt bring myself to drive a lorry full time again as i would be worse of regarding wages vs quality of life/time spent with family…
My dad drives a tanker for Suttons earning a decent wage but getting out of bed at 3/4 am every morning you could’nt pay me enough, (done it myself for nearly 8 year)…
Last decent wage i got was driving a fuel tanker for Brogan fuels earning £8-50ph that was in 2005…
limeyphil:
i can’t believe how many fools are willing to be paid by the hour.
it’s a shame how many people in this industry are willing to downgrade it.
Yeh, its terrible Phil. Can you tell the thousands and thousands of us how to get a better deal?
limeyphil:
i can’t believe how many fools are willing to be paid by the hour.
it’s a shame how many people in this industry are willing to downgrade it.
Well, in my line of work I would be fool if I agreed to be paid set rate…
Why are you guys doing this ? It can be hard enough for the drivers that are out of work without having drivers saying how much each one earns and those on low pay will onlt feel jealous.
If anyone on the road asks me how much I make I deffinately do not discuss it for all to see, some points in the past I may have mentioned certain elliment of my wage and later regretted it, because those on lesser pay might feel anguish. When someone earns above average then in effect brags about it, allbeit unintentionally it hurts others feeling who are on lower or no pay and struggling.
Keep what you earn and other financial details to yourself.
I bring home £1200 a month regardless of how many hours i work on the coaches.
Great this time of year when it’s quiet and only doing 30-40 hrs a week, absolutely ■■■■■ in the summer when doing 60-70 hrs per week!
A long long way from my job on the railway where i was on £45k a yr for a 35hr week, and as i was a manager, pretty much went in when i wanted and home when i wanted, only 1 weekend in 6 worked.
Most agencies round my way are offering around £8.50 per hr for class 1 day work.
Pat Hasler:
Why are you guys doing this ? It can be hard enough for the drivers that are out of work without having drivers saying how much each one earns and those on low pay will onlt feel jealous.
If anyone on the road asks me how much I make I deffinately do not discuss it for all to see, some points in the past I may have mentioned certain elliment of my wage and later regretted it, because those on lesser pay might feel anguish. When someone earns above average then in effect brags about it, allbeit unintentionally it hurts others feeling who are on lower or no pay and struggling.
Keep what you earn and other financial details to yourself.
i disagree pat,im on a low hourly rate and seeing hourly rates of 12/14/16 p.h doesnt cause me anguish at all,it actually gives me a sense of hope,maybe one day a firm who pay a good wage will move into my area,if you didnt see these high hourly rates you start to believe everywhere pays 6/7 p.h,you become defeated,this gives me a bit of hope
DonutUK:
I bring home £1200 a month regardless of how many hours i work on the coaches.
Great this time of year when it’s quiet and only doing 30-40 hrs a week, absolutely [zb] in the summer when doing 60-70 hrs per week!
A long long way from my job on the railway where i was on £45k a yr for a 35hr week, and as i was a manager, pretty much went in when i wanted and home when i wanted, only 1 weekend in 6 worked.
Most agencies round my way are offering around £8.50 per hr for class 1 day work.
dont you make a fair bit on top of that out of tips from trips
DonutUK:
I bring home £1200 a month regardless of how many hours i work on the coaches.
Great this time of year when it’s quiet and only doing 30-40 hrs a week, absolutely [zb] in the summer when doing 60-70 hrs per week!
A long long way from my job on the railway where i was on £45k a yr for a 35hr week, and as i was a manager, pretty much went in when i wanted and home when i wanted, only 1 weekend in 6 worked.
Most agencies round my way are offering around £8.50 per hr for class 1 day work.
Thats the same with what I’d get if I was full time on the coaches donutuk.
DonutUK:
I bring home £1200 a month regardless of how many hours i work on the coaches.
Great this time of year when it’s quiet and only doing 30-40 hrs a week, absolutely [zb] in the summer when doing 60-70 hrs per week!
A long long way from my job on the railway where i was on £45k a yr for a 35hr week, and as i was a manager, pretty much went in when i wanted and home when i wanted, only 1 weekend in 6 worked.
Most agencies round my way are offering around £8.50 per hr for class 1 day work.
dont you make a fair bit on top of that out of tips from trips
Not this time of year, and even this summer i am doubtful there will be a lot going about…at one time you could pretty much guarantee walking away with at least £100 on a weeks tour and £50-60 from a day trip…not nowadays though…tips seem to be getting less and less.
WHICH agencies WHERE are paying the top dollar for WHAT CLIENTS■■?
Saleried=lower rate due to the so-called “job security” of having guaranteed hours.
Sorry, don’t buy that. Lower hourly rate and salaried means compounding the losses forever.
Compare like for like working 40 hours FT @ £9.33 an hour to working
40 hours every other week for £10.00 per hour…
40x£9.33x52=£19406pa including paid holidays. Average hours worked per week=40 less 28 days paid holiday.
You also dip out of tax credits, and pay tax on about 13k of the wages (£3250) and nationa insurance of £2150. Total takehome about £14000.
Now try 40 hours every other week=£10400 base. You’ll get about another 5.5k (wife doesn’t work, 2.5k if you have no kids) and only pay tax on 4k of your earnings (-£1000) and another £1100 in National Insurance.
Total takehome about £13800.
This also assumes you don’t sign on during the inbetween weeks, and get paid PAYE by the agency that also has a holiday pot you don’t get a deduction to fill up. 28 days per year at average hourly rates in other words.
Overall, you’ll be taking home almost the same amount for working half the hours, and getting to choose when you want to work as well!
Can anyone seriously think that going through the red channel is better here?
Aww the green channel pays less than the red one, so I’m going red!
It seems I was wrong then
But I have to say some of the pay I see here is disgracefull to say the least. 1200 quid a month in this day and age is a disgrace as is less than 10 quid an hour.
If you want to compare I left the UK in feb 2000, in the job I had before leaving I made about 3,000 quid every 4 weeks (we were paid 4 weekly as opposed to calendar months), at Tesco’s in 1996 I made 2,500 a month.
Over here I make a great deal more but I am not telling exactly how much.
I could not return there and work for such pittance like amounts, it seems pay there has dropped in a decade and not risen
Winseer:
What we don’t seem to be seeing on this thread is
WHICH agencies WHERE are paying the top dollar for WHAT CLIENTS■■?
Saleried=lower rate due to the so-called “job security” of having guaranteed hours.
Sorry, don’t buy that. Lower hourly rate and salaried means compounding the losses forever.
Compare like for like working 40 hours FT @ £9.33 an hour to working
40 hours every other week for £10.00 per hour…
40x£9.33x52=£19406pa including paid holidays. Average hours worked per week=40 less 28 days paid holiday.
You also dip out of tax credits, and pay tax on about 13k of the wages (£3250) and nationa insurance of £2150. Total takehome about £14000.
Now try 40 hours every other week=£10400 base. You’ll get about another 5.5k (wife doesn’t work, 2.5k if you have no kids) and only pay tax on 4k of your earnings (-£1000) and another £1100 in National Insurance.
Total takehome about £13800.
This also assumes you don’t sign on during the inbetween weeks, and get paid PAYE by the agency that also has a holiday pot you don’t get a deduction to fill up. 28 days per year at average hourly rates in other words.
Overall, you’ll be taking home almost the same amount for working half the hours, and getting to choose when you want to work as well!
Can anyone seriously think that going through the red channel is better here?
Aww the green channel pays less than the red one, so I’m going red!
you seem to the have the system well sussed…well done
I’d still take the £42k job back, if and when the economy picks up enough for me to get it.
The amount £42k itself is another “optimum” earnings level, as it limbos that amount above which a lot of things get cut, or go up in price including the higher tax threshold I believe. In other words, I only see myself doing this as long as the recession lasts - which is as long as the labour market is not subject to upward price pressures, and not when any government body SAYS it is “over”.