Who do you sympathise with?

The caravaner was being a complete tool but the truck driver could have prevented it from developing into the accident that occurred.
Even after you hear the first impact, however slight that may have been, he’s still going and doesn’t stop until the car is across the front if the truck.

How long was the slip road blocked for while they got themselves out of there and how many other road users were delayed due to both drivers stupidity?

When the driver starts swearing, he reminds me of Harry H Corbett for some reason lol :laughing: :laughing:

Once again the rules of give and take and “professionalism” go out of the window. I would much rather back off than all the hassle of a collision.

It is just grief and every time you renew your vehicle insurance for the next five years you are reminded of your own contribution to this event.

One has to feel sorry for the wobblebox jockey in all this.
Yes to the untrained steering wheel attendents eye it looks like caravan man is to blame but stepping back and seeing how the truck behaved prior and during this incident (which lets face it was inevitable as sure as night follows day) one can only conclude that this was a poor bit of driving by someone who should know better.

Course the caravan driver performed a silly manouvre, unfortunetely in front of an even more silly truck driver.

Most of us im sure would realise that there was no ego to rub by contributing to this collision and the best option would be to let them in, alright maybe with a little pap and coffee beans at a push.

Yet another example of the poor standard of truck driving on the roads today and another driver who may be better for it after they have realised the paperwork and after affects just aren’t worth it.

Perhaps this is another example of how dashcam drama queens create an accident to justify dashcam ownership or at least react in a more aggresive manner hope the dashcam exhonerates them of any blame.

In this case im sure the dash cam footage would not do mr truck diver any favours, lesson learned perhaps, or maybe not.

Ive done worse though… :wink:

I too would love to know why the woman was doing a runner.
Perhaps she was being held capative and seized the opportunity to make a break for freedom.

Maybe a shock thing or thought the big nasty trucker might try and slip her one after dealing with her hubby.

More to this than meets the eye perhaps.

All seem to make the assumption that the caravan driver had gone down the outside to beat the queue.
It’s quite possible he had been trying to get back in lane 1 for a mile and no one would let him in…same as the trucker wouldn’t, and had carried on rather than stop in lane 2 and wait for a gap
OK, he may have made a mistake ealrlier which led to the situation but the trucker did his bit deliberately.
Prior to the caravan appearing on the video, the truck was moving along nice and steady with a decent gap in front but as soon as the caravan shows up he starts closing the gap and driving more jerkily as he tries to prevent the 'van merging.
If I were the truck driver I wouldn’t be showing this evidnce to the police.
Both grade one ■■■■ but the trucker KNEW what he was doing…no mistake/ bad judgement there, just aggression.

I think if you read the script on the facebook page where driver is talking to his friends just about sums up what sort of chap the driver is,would I like him working with me no would I like to share a table with him at a truckstop no, share an rdc room with him no.
No good to our profession a liability.

And yes the guy towing the caravan was at fault to

mattecube:
I think if you read the script on the facebook page where driver is talking to his friends just about sums up what sort of chap the driver is,would I like him working with me no would I like to share a table with him at a truckstop no, share an rdc room with him no.
No good to our profession a liability.

And yes the guy towing the caravan was at fault to

Agreed, and if he was working for me he’d be given the oldest nail in the fleet if that’s his attitude to my truck

Bad HGV driving all round,sat right up the arse of the car in front for the most part of that video,knew what he was doing when he endured a collision happened with the caravan…as already said that will go 50/50 at best.
Although the amount of caravan towers without extended mirrors seems to be increasing,I always assumed it was law to have them?

How on earth can you blame the Trucker when gramps is taking his granddaughter away for a dirty weekend!

Look correctly when the van starts moving left it is going to hit the truck, the truck is not legally obliged to give way and he has the right of way then gramps decided to speed up and bang cuts up the truck … gramps needs shooting!!

but of course all you professional drivers do nothing wrong huh, all model drivers but wont flash a lower class, class 2 driver in :smiley: :laughing: :laughing:

discoman:
Look correctly when the van starts moving left it is going to hit the truck, the truck is not legally obliged to give way and he has the right of way

Indeed, but we can all see it happening, and that’s when it’s time to show your professionalism and rise above it and stop it from happening.

DaiDap:
Trucker doesn’t cover himself in glory mind. Shouldn’t have floored it when it became clear caravan man was coming over no matter what. It’s deeply frustrating but you just gotta rise above it and let them go.

The only good thing is van man might think twice before doing it again

If I was going to give that video as evidence, it’d be edited down to start at 2 min 10, get rid of the bit that shows the trucker could have EASILY avoided any accident, road blockage, form filling etc.

LIBERTY_GUY:
I have a foot in both camps as like many other HGV drivers I also tow a caravan.

There is no doubt that the caravanner was being an absolute ■■■ by trying to force his way in like that, but the truck driver also contributed to that collision by not showing common sense and letting them in. Let’s not forget that is a busy motorway section, down to single lane with roadworks and now effectively blocked solid with both truckers and other road users effectively stuck in the same stationary traffic behind these pair of absolute numpties.

+1

We all hate being stuck in traffic, we all go mad when we’re stuck because of an accident, how much worse is it when it was an EASILY avoidable accident.
Seriously, ease off, let him in - nobody else is going to be coming in, lose what? 4 seconds maybe? and crack on…
Sure, we all get ■■■■■■ off with people shoving in at last second and being inpatient gits, but you’ve gotta rise above it and also give them the benefit of the doubt that they MIGHT just have cocked up a touch and been in the wrong lane, not like that ever happens to us is it? :open_mouth:

nodding donkey:
Honestly, the gentleman with the caravan has driven for what, a mile and a half past the exit queue, and obviously decides to forcibly cut in over the chevron triangle, and after the first (possibly minor) contact decides to force through, between the truck and the barrier, causing himself to get stuck in front, endangering his wifes life…

and some of you put the blame on the trucker? ? Yes, ultimately he may have anticipated the situation, and eased of. But he was under no obligation to do so, and the caravan driver SHOULD HAVE STOPPED to avoid the collision which he caused.

I bet his wife give him a special sooghing bj that night…

What a prick.

I think you’ll find that YOU ARE under an obligation to avoid an accident if possible, whoever is in the wrong, and this would’ve made such a massive difference to his day - less than 10 seconds on the full day I reckon, or you can be a BIG man, plough into the poor scared old people, destroying their stuff and blocking a complete motorway off to show them who’s right :open_mouth:

del trotter:
Truck driver is a complete [zb], could easily have backed off, the car driver is a braindead ■■■■■■ but is it really worth the hassle just to slow down for a few seconds.

^^ THIS!!!

As I said, we all get peaved off with them cutting in, ‘bullying’ us into letting them in, we all know we could destroy 100’s of vehicles per day where they’re in the wrong, but we don’t, and we all know that sometimes we’re in the wrong too and most people avoid accidents with us at that time too, mutual respect and understanding on the road.

Dipper_Dave:
One has to feel sorry for the wobblebox jockey in all this.
Yes to the untrained steering wheel attendents eye it looks like caravan man is to blame but stepping back and seeing how the truck behaved prior and during this incident (which lets face it was inevitable as sure as night follows day) one can only conclude that this was a poor bit of driving by someone who should know better.

Course the caravan driver performed a silly manouvre, unfortunetely in front of an even more silly truck driver.

Most of us im sure would realise that there was no ego to rub by contributing to this collision and the best option would be to let them in, alright maybe with a little pap and coffee beans at a push.

Yet another example of the poor standard of truck driving on the roads today and another driver who may be better for it after they have realised the paperwork and after affects just aren’t worth it.

Perhaps this is another example of how dashcam drama queens create an accident to justify dashcam ownership or at least react in a more aggresive manner hope the dashcam exhonerates them of any blame.

In this case im sure the dash cam footage would not do mr truck diver any favours, lesson learned perhaps, or maybe not.

Ive done worse though… :wink:

+1 - except the last bit :wink:

DaiDap:

discoman:
Look correctly when the van starts moving left it is going to hit the truck, the truck is not legally obliged to give way and he has the right of way

Indeed, but we can all see it happening, and that’s when it’s time to show your professionalism and rise above it and stop it from happening.

If you CAN avoid an accident, then you SHOULD avoid an accident, simples. Anything else is road rage.

discoman:
How on earth can you blame the Trucker when gramps is taking his granddaughter away for a dirty weekend!

Look correctly when the van starts moving left it is going to hit the truck, the truck is not legally obliged to give way and he has the right of way then gramps decided to speed up and bang cuts up the truck … gramps needs shooting!!

but of course all you professional drivers do nothing wrong huh, all model drivers but wont flash a lower class, class 2 driver in :smiley: :laughing: :laughing:

You contradict yourself, so the trucker might have right of way however as a professional driver he should have foreseen the possible outcome and taken action to avoid the collision.

There is no shame in giving way to someone else, all the driver has done is show himself to be an inconsiderate driver.

Yes we all make mistakes at times and other people normally get us out of the mire by taking avoiding action and we should all reciprocate if someone else makes a mistake.

I love these dashcam rucks

lmao at all the people relishing in this video and loving it. No way was the driver ever gonna let this caravan through. Probably licking his lips at the possible outcome. Now this was at quite a slow speed. How many times do LORRIES pull out on you on a busy motorway in fast moving traffic? A LOT!

Hilarious innit

I had something similar last year with a BMW coming through whether I liked it or not. Stop/start traffic on the M6, lane 2 and 3 slowing down and Mr BMW having none of it. I knew what he wanted to do so I was ready for him… Didn’t think he’d actually go through with it, but there you go. Like I said, I was ready…

youtu.be/t5jxLkbGOV8

DaiDap:
I had something similar last year with a BMW coming through whether I liked it or not. Stop/start traffic on the M6, lane 2 and 3 slowing down and Mr BMW having none of it. I knew what he wanted to do so I was ready for him… Didn’t think he’d actually go through with it, but there you go. Like I said, I was ready…

youtu.be/t5jxLkbGOV8

Exactly, you took evasive action and avoided the collision. Could’ve held your line and destroyed the Beemer to teach him a lesson, but you were the bigger man…

I think the question to be asked on this is would the accident have happened if the HGV driver didn’t have a dash cam■■?
Personally I don’t think it would have.

ckm1981:
I think the question to be asked on this is would the accident have happened if the HGV driver didn’t have a dash cam■■?
Personally I don’t think it would have.

We are seeing that more and more, drivers trying to prove a point just because they have a dashcam.

The lorry driver was a total muppet and should have backed off a bit. He rammed the wobbly box driver to prove a point, he could have easily hurt someone with his lousy attitude, we are supposed to be professionals, who cares if you are in the right, causing damage to “teach” someone a lesson is p!ss poor.

Posting that on facebook I sincerely hope that it finds its way to the respective insurance companies, his employer, the TC and the police, aggressive behaviour like that has no place in our profession.

that is the same place I seen a car cutting up a HGV just a week ago and o man was it close… I would point the blame at the caravan just because of lack of care…your indicating don’t give you the right of way to push in like some do… could he have let him in… yes…