can someone point me in the right direction please. Just spent ages searching the forum and must be looking for the wrong phrase.
I run on Analogue Tachos.
The 28 day rule , Do we have to carry the last 28 Tachos or Tachos to show the last 28 days.
I have just had a week off on the sick and a week off at christmas. So if its 28 days then I would carry all the cards from this year eg from 1st Jan, But if its Cards that would mean I should be carrying from mid December. ( which I am at the moment ( better safe than sorry)).
I thought it was any tachos that you used in within the previous 28 days…so for instance if in the whole of February you only worked 4 days, then come 1st of March you’d only need to carry all of February’s tachos, which in this case would only equal the 4 days you worked?..If you worked (illegally) all 28 days of February, then on 1st March you’d be carrying 28 days worth of tachos…If that makes sense?
So for the last 5 weeks do you carry 45 cards or if you do a five day week do you carry 25 cards? (plus this week)
have you been taking maths lessons from my wife?
firstly, there are 7 days in a week, not 9
secondly, i carry all the cards i have used in the last 5 (five) weeks, 5 day working week = 25 cards, plus the current working week, 6 day working week = 30 cards plus the current working week
I carry the previous 4 weeks and the current week, we’ve been told that we fill in 7 tachos every week, as we work a rolling week of 6 on 2 off most weeks and when on our rest days my truck is used by a relief driver we’ve been instructed that on our rest days we fill a tacho in, name and date then write “rest day” on it. 4weeks x7days = 28 days plus this weeks tachos.
Alan…:
can someone point me in the right direction please. Just spent ages searching the forum and must be looking for the wrong phrase.
I run on Analogue Tachos.
The 28 day rule , Do we have to carry the last 28 Tachos or Tachos to show the last 28 days.
I have just had a week off on the sick and a week off at christmas. So if its 28 days then I would carry all the cards from this year eg from 1st Jan, But if its Cards that would mean I should be carrying from mid December. ( which I am at the moment ( better safe than sorry)).
So whats the correct interpretation.
Current day plus previous 28 days.
Tomorrow is the 29th of January, if you are stopped tomorrow you must be able to produce charts covering the period back to, and including the 1st January. That is 29 days but due to weekly rest requirements will most likely be less than 29 charts, unless you work for one of those stupid firms who, for no legal reason whatsoever, want you to write out charts for rest days or you drive several vehicle during some shifts.
Careful if you are carrying charts back to mid December as that could mean the oldest chart is more than 43 days old and that would be an offence. 43 days old is okay as long as you hand it in before the end of the day, 44 days old and oops, it should already have been handed in.
The 28 day rule , Do we have to carry the last 28 Tachos or Tachos to show the last 28 days.
In case of a roadside inspection you should be able to provide the charts for the current day and any charts used in the previous 28 days (calendar days), they should be handed in to the transport operator no later than 42 days from the last date on the chart.
tachograph:
they should be handed in to the transport operator no later than 42 days from the last date on the chart.
Not quite correct.
Delivery of record sheets and other documents 97C.–(3) The delivery period is the period of 42 days starting on the day after the latest date to
which the document relates.
That makes it 43 days counting from the last date on the chart.
tachograph:
they should be handed in to the transport operator no later than 42 days from the last date on the chart.
Not quite correct.
Delivery of record sheets and other documents 97C.–(3) The delivery period is the period of 42 days starting on the day after the latest date to
which the document relates.
That makes it 43 days counting from the last date on the chart.
in response to coffeeholics comment about " STUPID firmswho want to fill out tachos on rest days" the reason we do that is becauseSOMEvosa officers seem to take a bad view when asked for the last 28 days tachos and you hand them 7 used cards and 21 blank ones with the explanation that you’ve just come back from a holiday, and have had 3 weeks off, saves alot of explaining and investigation into the missing 9500 kms between charts, the reason I was given was " believe it or not, some drivers pull stunts like that to cover up the fact that they are running bent" how the minority ruin it for the majority . Luckily it’s very rare I get pulled (once in 10 yrs) .
stoke trucker:
in response to coffeeholics comment about " STUPID firmswho want to fill out tachos on rest days" the reason we do that is becauseSOMEvosa officers seem to take a bad view when asked for the last 28 days tachos and you hand them 7 used cards and 21 blank ones
You wouldn’t hand them blank ones, you hand them the ones you have used and the onus is on them to prove you have been working and have missing charts, you don’t have to do anything. Just because some VOSA officers may not know the regulations doesn’t mean you have to carry out needless tasks to keep them happy, better they are educated to the facts rather than you going along with their stupidity.
stoke trucker:
with the explanation that you’ve just come back from a holiday, and have had 3 weeks off, saves alot of explaining and investigation into the missing 9500 kms between charts
That’s what Letters of Attestation can be used for, no need to be filling in charts for rest days and certainley not for holidays. No legal requirement to do so so no need to supply them or even for VOSA to ask for them.
stoke trucker:
, the reason I was given was " believe it or not, some drivers pull stunts like that to cover up the fact that they are running bent" how the minority ruin it for the majority.
Again, the onus is on VOSA to prove anything illegal was going on, the driver is required to do no more than supply the records for the days they have worked. Filling in and handing over blank charts proves nothing anyway, you could drive on a day and then hide that chart and fill out a blank one saying you were on rest or holiday and present that one over in a check.
We keep each weeks chart in the envelopes and all our lot ask us to fill in the front of it with the chart number where appropriate, or rest, or holiday, or digital if you were on your digi-card that day. And I have the current weeks + 4 other ones, this must be right because every pouch in my tacho-holder is full
