Where's Boris?

OUT OF HOURS BULLY'S TRUCKSTOP BAR (INTERACTIVE)
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Carryfast:

Winseer:
Boris has done well enough getting this far with a full majority which, via ■■■■■■■■ he can wield like a veritable “Rod of Iron”… And currently seems to be doing just that!

Got my vote, and continues to keep hold of it.

We want “Do-ers” - not “excuses” from our politicians…

He’s got a cabinet of mostly remainers.May is still there.He intends on expanding Kahn’s zb hole into what remains of the Conservative home counties heartlands since they did the same thing since the 1930’s.

Javid got chucked under the bus because even he could see that we can’t afford HS2, even if they could afford to alienate Oxford’s Conservative vote by putting Bojo’s toy train set through the place wrecking yet more of our green and pleasant land. Javid spoke of “Borrowing” rather than of the forthcoming Brexit Dividend. Not much of a visionary - was he?

As for ■■■■■■■■ you mean the same ■■■■■■■■ who is happy to tie us to the EU as part of a bs ‘transition’ period. The Transition period is for UK benefit now, as the alternative was the so-called Cliff-Edge total 100% EU goods and services embargo that would have been the very hardest of Brexits otherwise - as damaging to the UK as the EU. Now we manage the time we actually cease trade routes, stop paying money, etc. If Boris doesn’t now deliver, because he’s stringing us all along AFTER all - then he will be gone by this time next year, I predict.

So if Bojo is supposedly up for no deal then what is he waiting for why are we still here tied to the dockside and what ‘could’ any deal possibly be assuming that fish,cash and sovereignty are all off the table.
WTO is not the same as what was originally meant by No Deal. Since we’ve already supposed to have left as of January 31st 2020 - we can’t be leaving with No Deal from here on, any more than we can avoid fighting WWII… The current, hopefully truncated Transition Period - is for us to finalize the process of by-passing those aspects of EU traffic so we in this country - get the minimum of disruption from it.

Oh wait you did say that you’re a floating LibDem voter.So you’d obviously be happy with a LibDem in all but name Party masquerading as Nationalists.

I’m an Ex-Libdem voter, and now a floating voter. Can’t very well be both at the same time, can I? That both Labour and the Libdems failed to come up with a Brexit of their own liking - makes sure that I won’t be going anywhere towards voting for either any time soon. Thus, technically I’m only “floating” between UKIP, Brexit Party, and ended up with the Conservatives - for the time being.

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the nodding donkey:
I should clarify, that whilst I used the current flooding situation as an example, I’m not minimizing Boris’ absence to that, and neither is this a Brexit ‘whinge’… Apart from carefully managed soundbites and cabinet reshuffle pictures, he’s been absent to the public. If nothing else, it shows contempt. This will be for one of two reasons.
He’s utterly useless, out of his depth, and doesn’t know what to do now the time for popular blustering is over. Others around him pull the strings, but he cant be trusted not to shoot his mouth, promise things that cant be done, and is kept ‘indoors’…
Or,
He’s a Donald Trump, and will do whatever he wants, to benefit his and his chums fortunes. He’s already given the go ahead the HS2. Let’s see what happens next.

There are two reasons for this. FTFY.

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cgscott:
Ok so heres one einstein. Maybe he is hiding from the public becuase he is actually going to do a job? Hence the reason he hasnt shown up in waders with a fishing rod like most would think he would.

Hows the sturge doing? Is she ready to pop cavaiar yet?

So you admit he’s hiding eh?

I refer you to the post immediately above this one.

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Franglais:

The-Snowman:
I’m sure I read somewhere that the EU had laws or something in place that prevented rivers being dredged and the removal of the slit buildup which results in the flooding.

Not sure of the accuracy of that though.
Like everything, you get conflicting stories.

Haven’t heard that one before. I expect someone will have said it though.
Spare ten minutes? Google ‘Euromyths’. See what rubbish has been written. Look at the origins of most of it.
Spare half hour? Google ‘Johnson lies’.
No, don’t. Wait until you’re settled down for an entire evening.

Some farmers are saying that lack of dredging is a problem with flooding, but some “ahem experts” disagree, on the other hand do we really want sterile rivers, dredged to the bed rock and does it just send the problem to the first man made restriction down river?
fwi.co.uk/news/flood-hit-fa … t-dredging

irishtimes.com/news/politic … -1.2485660
And there are those blaming EU regs for it, not just in the UK,

While the European Commission has said that dredging is not banned by EU legislation, in effect member states are prohibited from undertaking dredging if it disturbs certain habitats which can then lead to a breach of the EU Water Framework Directive.

however its been denied by the EU commission,

A spokeswoman for the European Commission said member states decide their own rules on how to manage their water courses.

The comment follows criticism from groups and representatives in the UK and Ireland that EU legislation such as the Water Framework Directive has prevented local authorities from undertaking dredging of rivers.

Of course it might have been a convenient excuse for successive UK Governments to save money in dredging and flood management.

Successive UK Governments and institutions seemed to use “its due to an EU Directive for many laws and regulations” we have, just think of how many times we’ve been told a H&S reg is due to EU law, when it really has more to do with a compensation culture imported from the US.

And after spending their careers passing the buck and blaming the EU for how these rules and regs are implemented, they seemed surprised when many in the UK decided to vote leave.

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muckles:

Franglais:

The-Snowman:
I’m sure I read somewhere that the EU had laws or something in place that prevented rivers being dredged and the removal of the slit buildup which results in the flooding.

Not sure of the accuracy of that though.
Like everything, you get conflicting stories.

Haven’t heard that one before. I expect someone will have said it though.
Spare ten minutes? Google ‘Euromyths’. See what rubbish has been written. Look at the origins of most of it.
Spare half hour? Google ‘Johnson lies’.
No, don’t. Wait until you’re settled down for an entire evening.

Some farmers are saying that lack of dredging is a problem with flooding, but some “ahem experts” disagree, on the other hand do we really want sterile rivers, dredged to the bed rock and does it just send the problem to the first man made restriction down river?
fwi.co.uk/news/flood-hit-fa … t-dredging

irishtimes.com/news/politic … -1.2485660
And there are those blaming EU regs for it, not just in the UK,

While the European Commission has said that dredging is not banned by EU legislation, in effect member states are prohibited from undertaking dredging if it disturbs certain habitats which can then lead to a breach of the EU Water Framework Directive.

however its been denied by the EU commission,

A spokeswoman for the European Commission said member states decide their own rules on how to manage their water courses.

The comment follows criticism from groups and representatives in the UK and Ireland that EU legislation such as the Water Framework Directive has prevented local authorities from undertaking dredging of rivers.

Of course it might have been a convenient excuse for successive UK Governments to save money in dredging and flood management.

Successive UK Governments and institutions seemed to use “its due to an EU Directive for many laws and regulations” we have, just think of how many times we’ve been told a H&S reg is due to EU law, when it really has more to do with a compensation culture imported from the US.

And after spending their careers passing the buck and blaming the EU for how these rules and regs are implemented, they seemed surprised when many in the UK decided to vote leave.

Well we are stickers for slavishly following all EU rules, aren’t we?
Look at the hundreds of prosecutions for WTD breaches!
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Franglais:

muckles:
Of course it might have been a convenient excuse for successive UK Governments to save money in dredging and flood management.

Successive UK Governments and institutions seemed to use “its due to an EU Directive for many laws and regulations” we have, just think of how many times we’ve been told a H&S reg is due to EU law, when it really has more to do with a compensation culture imported from the US.

And after spending their careers passing the buck and blaming the EU for how these rules and regs are implemented, they seemed surprised when many in the UK decided to vote leave.

Well we are stickers for slavishly following all EU rules, aren’t we?
Look at the hundreds of prosecutions for WTD breaches!
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.
;/

Of course we are, proper law abiding country.

Well providing it suits the Government of the day. :wink:

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muckles:
Of course we are, proper law abiding country.

Well providing it suits the Government of the day. :wink:

The Government of the day is the Government we have right now. It’s the Government the electorate voted for.
In a free and fair election the country voted Tory.

So relax, we’ve got Johnson, Gove and Rees-Mogg at the helm.

To quote CF, what could possibly go wrong?

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Winseer:
I’m an Ex-Libdem voter, and now a floating voter. Can’t very well be both at the same time, can I? That both Labour and the Libdems failed to come up with a Brexit of their own liking - makes sure that I won’t be going anywhere towards voting for either any time soon. Thus, technically I’m only “floating” between UKIP, Brexit Party, and ended up with the Conservatives - for the time being.

‘Floating’ LibDem voter votes for LibDem in all but name Party.Here’s a clue no UKIP voter could possibly vote for Boris or Farage as opposed to abstaining when Farage trashed Batten and said trust Bozo. :wink:

So here we are on Planet Bozo where ‘Transition’ means Remain.

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The only thing that can bring down Boris at this time - is this cloud of DOUBT that he’ll actually deliver, now that he’s in a position to do just that.

I think Boris has made a mistake telling the public that he wants a smooth relationship with the EU, and “doesn’t want to hurt them” in the process of leaving.

FFS That’s like telling Hitler in 1938 that we have “Peace in our Time” !

If we’re not prepared to carry out outright hostilities against the EU as our poltical enemy - we’ll end up losing this trade war being conducted on the world’s financial markets as we speak. :frowning:

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Winseer:
The only thing that can bring down Boris at this time - is this cloud of DOUBT that he’ll actually deliver, now that he’s in a position to do just that.

I think Boris has made a mistake telling the public that he wants a smooth relationship with the EU, and “doesn’t want to hurt them” in the process of leaving.

FFS That’s like telling Hitler in 1938 that we have “Peace in our Time” !

If we’re not prepared to carry out outright hostilities against the EU as our poltical enemy - we’ll end up losing this trade war being conducted on the world’s financial markets as we speak. :frowning:

Which part of Bojo is a Remainer putting the interests of the EU first don’t the naive mugs who voted for him understand.

As for Chamberlain no he actually made, an almost too good, act of fooling Hitler that we were no threat to him while he got on with ordering Supermarine to make Spitfires and the ship yards to make King George V class battleships.You know just like the one that stopped the Bismark with a bit of help from the fleet air arm.No good relying on the junk which Churchill’s defence budget cuts had left us with up to then.

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Fair comment on Chaimberlain, whom I think History has been a little unkind to…

It makes sense for Boris to use this “implementation period” to sort UK stuff out, which won’t require us to stay in until December 31st. We’ll be ready at our end long before then, maybe by Whitsun this year.?

The EU have already told us that they’ll not be ready, will never be ready, and won’t come to the table “until the last minute” whilst doing so.

It is time we stopped trying to appease them, and started dishing out some proper “chinese burns” here, and no that wasn’t a poor pun regarding the coronavirus - just a reference to an old school method of enforcing instant discpline if you will…

The fact that the Euro currency is about the only financial thing NOT moving on the world markets at this time - speaks volumes as to how much big money is propping it up.

Either there are no real cases to worry about, or the EU know there are no real cases to worry about. :bulb: :bulb:

There again, Bitcoin probably comes a close second at this time as to “stable, non-moving investments on days when everything else seems like it is crashing”…

We’re presumably all supposed to act like sheep, move INTO Europe, European investments, Euro denominated investments, trade on Euro exchanges, whilst throwing the hated economies of Britain and America under the bus in the name of the crushed-economy chasers…

These idiots seem to have forgotten the reasons for the LAST holocause though: It was only their own lies that made it about “Anti Semetism”. It is the attempt to round up all and every establishment figure - that ended up getting perverted into something worse.

I’m thnking that France 1789 was rather worse for ordinary people than any “Final Solution” come up with by the ■■■■ stooges like Eichmann and Himmler.

“If you don’t attempt to take away a dog’s bone - he will not bite you.”

“If you insist on taking away every dog’s bone - better you kill them all before they kill you.”

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Winseer:
Fair comment on Chaimberlain, whom I think History has been a little unkind to…

It makes sense for Boris to use this “implementation period” to sort UK stuff out, which won’t require us to stay in until December 31st. We’ll be ready at our end long before then, maybe by Whitsun this year.?

The EU have already told us that they’ll not be ready, will never be ready, and won’t come to the table “until the last minute” whilst doing so.

It is time we stopped trying to appease them, and started dishing out some proper “chinese burns” here, and no that wasn’t a poor pun regarding the coronavirus - just a reference to an old school method of enforcing instant discpline if you will…

The fact that the Euro currency is about the only financial thing NOT moving on the world markets at this time - speaks volumes as to how much big money is propping it up.

Either there are no real cases to worry about, or the EU know there are no real cases to worry about. :bulb: :bulb:

There again, Bitcoin probably comes a close second at this time as to “stable, non-moving investments on days when everything else seems like it is crashing”…

We’re presumably all supposed to act like sheep, move INTO Europe, European investments, Euro denominated investments, trade on Euro exchanges, whilst throwing the hated economies of Britain and America under the bus in the name of the crushed-economy chasers…

These idiots seem to have forgotten the reasons for the LAST holocause though: It was only their own lies that made it about “Anti Semetism”. It is the attempt to round up all and every establishment figure - that ended up getting perverted into something worse.

I’m thnking that France 1789 was rather worse for ordinary people than any “Final Solution” come up with by the ■■■■ stooges like Eichmann and Himmler.

“If you don’t attempt to take away a dog’s bone - he will not bite you.”

“If you insist on taking away every dog’s bone - better you kill them all before they kill you.”

It’s time we took charge and started dictating terms, our terms, to Brussels? Is that what you’re saying? We have that much power and influence when up against the other 27?

As for the rest of your post, I have absolutely no idea what you’re trying to say. Where does the ‘Final Solution’ come into Brexit talks?

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Winseer:
It makes sense for Boris to use this “implementation period” to sort UK stuff out, which won’t require us to stay in until December 31st. We’ll be ready at our end long before then, maybe by Whitsun this year.?

Why do we need to ‘Remain’ and paying the EU for the privilege, to ‘Leave’.What’s being achieved by Remaining ( European Communities Act/Treaties of Rome to Lisbon ) 4 years after voting to Leave with sovereignty and cash and fish supposedly all off the table before we start ‘negotiating’.( According to Bojo and he can’t possibly be lying ).Oh wait.

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dexxy57:
It’s time we took charge and started dictating terms, our terms, to Brussels? Is that what you’re saying? We have that much power and influence when up against the other 27?

We’ve left the EU you know no more Treaty of Rome to Lisbon for us and no more cash for the privilege of being ruled by Junker and co.

What do you want the ‘other 27’ to do in that regard.What’s to discuss or negotiate here.If the EU wants a trade war over that then bring it on the sooner the better and UK industry can start taking back the more lucrative domestic market from EU imports in a zero tariff v tariff environment.

But no you remainers know that you’ve got your stooge Bojo running the show keeping you in the game.

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I wasn’t suggesting that in any hostile context - just pointing out that what happened before will end up happening again - if we don’t recognized the lead-up and set-up which happened in the late 1920’s, and most closely matches the coming campaign to make people like Bernie Sanders a future president.

It seems that this desperation to remove Trump has fogged people’s mind to the point that they cannot see that it is the rise of people like Erdogan in the world rather than Assad, Putin, Trump, Boris, Orban, or even Duteurte.

Once you get the masses believing in any old ■■■■■■■■ that never has to be proven - it becomes a matter of that most wierd of dogmas - “Atheist Faith”, also known as “Mass Hysteria” for the type of world leader and hidden agendas that it throws up. The man-made climate change, and perhaps a Virus hoax - would be classic textbook examples of how easily possible it is to lie to the masses - a big HUGE lie - that gets taken seriously with little or no proof whatsoever. Just a bit of bigged-up fake news overstating a few deaths from natural causes scattered throughout the world. How else do a few nameless super-rich but unelected and faceless people around the world - get to control the masses over several continents? Globalism - was always their project.

80 years ago - everyone’s attention was turned to “liberating the death camps” rather than “what happened to all the money” and “where did the financial backers of the Nazis move to following the collapse of their WWII project”…

imo the greatest public enemies in the world today - are the diabolical trinity of ECB, IMF, and this star-chamber like “Per Akh” they represent between them.

Who’s pressing all the buttons in the world? - They are.

Either Boris is part of that - or he really is on our side, and will have to come out fighting this most grave danger we’ve ever faced.
If it is indeed inevitable that 25% of us are going to be “Dying Back” over the next decade - then at least let us choose among ourselves which 25%.
Dunno about everyone else - but I don’t want to be “volunteered” for extermination - no matter HOW good the so-called “Good Cause” happens to be.

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Winseer:
I wasn’t suggesting that in any hostile context - just pointing out that what happened before will end up happening again - if we don’t recognized the lead-up and set-up which happened in the late 1920’s, and most closely matches the coming campaign to make people like Bernie Sanders a future president.

It seems that this desperation to remove Trump has fogged people’s mind to the point that they cannot see that it is the rise of people like Erdogan in the world rather than Assad, Putin, Trump, Boris, Orban, or even Duteurte.

Once you get the masses believing in any old ■■■■■■■■ that never has to be proven - it becomes a matter of that most wierd of dogmas - “Atheist Faith”, also known as “Mass Hysteria” for the type of world leader and hidden agendas that it throws up. The man-made climate change, and perhaps a Virus hoax - would be classic textbook examples of how easily possible it is to lie to the masses - a big HUGE lie - that gets taken seriously with little or no proof whatsoever. Just a bit of bigged-up fake news overstating a few deaths from natural causes scattered throughout the world. How else do a few nameless super-rich but unelected and faceless people around the world - get to control the masses over several continents? Globalism - was always their project.

80 years ago - everyone’s attention was turned to “liberating the death camps” rather than “what happened to all the money” and “where did the financial backers of the Nazis move to following the collapse of their WWII project”…

imo the greatest public enemies in the world today - are the diabolical trinity of ECB, IMF, and this star-chamber like “Per Akh” they represent between them.

Who’s pressing all the buttons in the world? - They are.

Either Boris is part of that - or he really is on our side, and will have to come out fighting this most grave danger we’ve ever faced.
If it is indeed inevitable that 25% of us are going to be “Dying Back” over the next decade - then at least let us choose among ourselves which 25%.
Dunno about everyone else - but I don’t want to be “volunteered” for extermination - no matter HOW good the so-called “Good Cause” happens to be.

No man-made climate change and a virus hoax.
Aye, ok.

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Carryfast:

Winseer:
It makes sense for Boris to use this “implementation period” to sort UK stuff out, which won’t require us to stay in until December 31st. We’ll be ready at our end long before then, maybe by Whitsun this year.?

Why do we need to ‘Remain’ and paying the EU for the privilege, to ‘Leave’.What’s being achieved by Remaining ( European Communities Act/Treaties of Rome to Lisbon ) 4 years after voting to Leave with sovereignty and cash and fish supposedly all off the table before we start ‘negotiating’.( According to Bojo and he can’t possibly be lying ).Oh wait.

I was in favour of a harder Brexit, one that happened quickly, jumped off the cliff, and abuptly ended all UK-EU trade outright.

The only problems with such - were a likely hostile EU reaction, such as cutting off all our imported electricity the day after… We had a taste of that last August when for a little while - the entire UK was trying to run on just a handful of UK-based electricity generator sites - likely a “shot across our bows” by the EU there demonstrating how unready we actually were at that time for a full-fat Hard Brexit.

Labour and the Left of politics - would have benefited most from such a hard Brexit, as any downside following such a Brexit - would have brought the Tories down in the election to follow…
Corbyn was quite happy to leave the Tories to stick their arm in upto the elbow “James Herriot Style” - only to reap the rewards of such a hard brexit later, such as re-nationalizing all the foreign-owned utilities by sheer confiscation, which is the norm for Left wing-run states around the world - is it not?

So here we are in 2020 with Boris trying to feint a less-hard Brexit, but a hard one nonetheless.

A Tory hard Brexit - wasn’t going to favour the poorer among us before the wealthy got to line their pockets…

But alas, Labour never put forward their honest plan of their own to bring about a rather cheap renationalization programme, that oddly enough - I’ve always been in favour of. :smiling_imp:

In the end - we can only vote for our polticians on the basis of what we think and believe they will do once in office - voting them out later, if they don’t satisfy.

Election 2019 demonstrated that we can also trash the opposition - when it ain’t doing it’s bloody job properly as well, of course.
Boris - didn’t win it on “Getting Brexit Done” - since he ain’t done that yet.
Corbyn LOST it - because he didn’t come up with the full plan to show how a Left version of a Hard Brexit - would enable him to keep all his own electoral promises regarding things like universal benefit rather than the Tories defunct Universal Credit.

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dexxy57:

Winseer:
I wasn’t suggesting that in any hostile context - just pointing out that what happened before will end up happening again - if we don’t recognized the lead-up and set-up which happened in the late 1920’s, and most closely matches the coming campaign to make people like Bernie Sanders a future president.

It seems that this desperation to remove Trump has fogged people’s mind to the point that they cannot see that it is the rise of people like Erdogan in the world rather than Assad, Putin, Trump, Boris, Orban, or even Duteurte.

Once you get the masses believing in any old ■■■■■■■■ that never has to be proven - it becomes a matter of that most wierd of dogmas - “Atheist Faith”, also known as “Mass Hysteria” for the type of world leader and hidden agendas that it throws up. The man-made climate change, and perhaps a Virus hoax - would be classic textbook examples of how easily possible it is to lie to the masses - a big HUGE lie - that gets taken seriously with little or no proof whatsoever. Just a bit of bigged-up fake news overstating a few deaths from natural causes scattered throughout the world. How else do a few nameless super-rich but unelected and faceless people around the world - get to control the masses over several continents? Globalism - was always their project.

80 years ago - everyone’s attention was turned to “liberating the death camps” rather than “what happened to all the money” and “where did the financial backers of the Nazis move to following the collapse of their WWII project”…

imo the greatest public enemies in the world today - are the diabolical trinity of ECB, IMF, and this star-chamber like “Per Akh” they represent between them.

Who’s pressing all the buttons in the world? - They are.

Either Boris is part of that - or he really is on our side, and will have to come out fighting this most grave danger we’ve ever faced.
If it is indeed inevitable that 25% of us are going to be “Dying Back” over the next decade - then at least let us choose among ourselves which 25%.
Dunno about everyone else - but I don’t want to be “volunteered” for extermination - no matter HOW good the so-called “Good Cause” happens to be.

No man-made climate change and a virus hoax.
Aye, ok.

Sent from my H8314 using Tapatalk

Yup. There’s natural climate change, and man-made enironmental damage.
There’s also 8 ways which people die every day from natural causes by the million around the world, upon which a handful of deaths is a drop in the bucket, and is likely nothing more than “normal” strains of cold and flu doing the killing as we speak.
Funny how we’ve not heard about what should be the MILLIONS of deaths from the deep-inland Asia region regarding this so-called “Pandemic” that isn’t even an EPIdemic as yet!
I’m sure if the world’s medical analysts put up the raw data of “People dying around the world fron different natural causes methods” - the relatively few people dying of this so-called “New Strain of Flu” - would be swamped over by the huge numbers dying routinely every day from Heart Disease, Stroke, and other NON -respiatory forms of shuffling off one’s mortal coil…

There is no comparison with the Spanish Flu of a century ago, which killed MILLIONS rather than pockets of people here and there…

Then there is the Black Death, a bacterial infection at first - which later mutated into the far-more-deadly Pneumonic and Septicemic versions which not only killed millions (from a much lower world population than now) - but also had a death rate far exceeding the original Yersina Pestis where Plague originated (Fleas feeding from dead carcasses mostly washed up, biting rats, and transfering the mutated pathogen to Huminty by then biting Humans as well… People still think meanwhile - that one catches plague from the rats themselves. The original plague bacterium is NOT “Airbourne”.

Pneumonic plague IS airbourne of course, with Sepicemic Plague “transferred by touch”… Funny how the current media describes BOTH vectors of transmission as “being in play” with regards to Coronavirus - whilst the death rate is well below 2%, and re-infection rate even lower than that… Had they told us the truth - over 10 million people would already be DEAD since Christmas when this likely first started to infect a wider population. …

SO…

(1) Is Coronovirus a man-made strain that scientists “lost control of”?
(2) Is it a weaponized strain stolen from similar labs?
(3) Is it a big scare story to try and ■■■■■■■ the world’s capitalist system, paving the way to the massively scaled-down world economy of Greeness?
(4) Is it a disrupting piece of fake news designed to weaken current Western incumbents, bearing in mind that the currently disenfranchised of politics - would do absolutely ANYTHING to get back into power… No lie too great, no scare too deadly to the common people, - no being called to account ethically, since all-too-many of these high-handed deep state folk - simply don’t believe in an all-powerful deity other than themselves - Blasphemy incarnate right there!

What it is NOT is a “Pandemic”. Millions would already be dead - if it were remotely true…

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Winseer:

dexxy57:

Winseer:
I wasn’t suggesting that in any hostile context - just pointing out that what happened before will end up happening again - if we don’t recognized the lead-up and set-up which happened in the late 1920’s, and most closely matches the coming campaign to make people like Bernie Sanders a future president.

It seems that this desperation to remove Trump has fogged people’s mind to the point that they cannot see that it is the rise of people like Erdogan in the world rather than Assad, Putin, Trump, Boris, Orban, or even Duteurte.

Once you get the masses believing in any old ■■■■■■■■ that never has to be proven - it becomes a matter of that most wierd of dogmas - “Atheist Faith”, also known as “Mass Hysteria” for the type of world leader and hidden agendas that it throws up. The man-made climate change, and perhaps a Virus hoax - would be classic textbook examples of how easily possible it is to lie to the masses - a big HUGE lie - that gets taken seriously with little or no proof whatsoever. Just a bit of bigged-up fake news overstating a few deaths from natural causes scattered throughout the world. How else do a few nameless super-rich but unelected and faceless people around the world - get to control the masses over several continents? Globalism - was always their project.

80 years ago - everyone’s attention was turned to “liberating the death camps” rather than “what happened to all the money” and “where did the financial backers of the Nazis move to following the collapse of their WWII project”…

imo the greatest public enemies in the world today - are the diabolical trinity of ECB, IMF, and this star-chamber like “Per Akh” they represent between them.

Who’s pressing all the buttons in the world? - They are.

Either Boris is part of that - or he really is on our side, and will have to come out fighting this most grave danger we’ve ever faced.
If it is indeed inevitable that 25% of us are going to be “Dying Back” over the next decade - then at least let us choose among ourselves which 25%.
Dunno about everyone else - but I don’t want to be “volunteered” for extermination - no matter HOW good the so-called “Good Cause” happens to be.

No man-made climate change and a virus hoax.
Aye, ok.

Sent from my H8314 using Tapatalk

Yup. There’s natural climate change, and man-made enironmental damage.
There’s also 8 ways which people die every day from natural causes by the million around the world, upon which a handful of deaths is a drop in the bucket, and is likely nothing more than “normal” strains of cold and flu doing the killing as we speak.
Funny how we’ve not heard about what should be the MILLIONS of deaths from the deep-inland Asia region regarding this so-called “Pandemic” that isn’t even an EPIdemic as yet!
I’m sure if the world’s medical analysts put up the raw data of “People dying around the world fron different natural causes methods” - the relatively few people dying of this so-called “New Strain of Flu” - would be swamped over by the huge numbers dying routinely every day from Heart Disease, Stroke, and other NON -respiatory forms of shuffling off one’s mortal coil…

There is no comparison with the Spanish Flu of a century ago, which killed MILLIONS rather than pockets of people here and there…

Then there is the Black Death, a bacterial infection at first - which later mutated into the far-more-deadly Pneumonic and Septicemic versions which not only killed millions (from a much lower world population than now) - but also had a death rate far exceeding the original Yersina Pestis where Plague originated (Fleas feeding from dead carcasses mostly washed up, biting rats, and transfering the mutated pathogen to Huminty by then biting Humans as well… People still think meanwhile - that one catches plague from the rats themselves. The original plague bacterium is NOT “Airbourne”.

Pneumonic plague IS airbourne of course, with Sepicemic Plague “transferred by touch”… Funny how the current media describes BOTH vectors of transmission as “being in play” with regards to Coronavirus - whilst the death rate is well below 2%, and re-infection rate even lower than that… Had they told us the truth - over 10 million people would already be DEAD since Christmas when this likely first started to infect a wider population. …

SO…

(1) Is Coronovirus a man-made strain that scientists “lost control of”?
(2) Is it a weaponized strain stolen from similar labs?
(3) Is it a big scare story to try and ■■■■■■■ the world’s capitalist system, paving the way to the massively scaled-down world economy of Greeness?
(4) Is it a disrupting piece of fake news designed to weaken current Western incumbents, bearing in mind that the currently disenfranchised of politics - would do absolutely ANYTHING to get back into power… No lie too great, no scare too deadly to the common people, - no being called to account ethically, since all-too-many of these high-handed deep state folk - simply don’t believe in an all-powerful deity other than themselves - Blasphemy incarnate right there!

What it is NOT is a “Pandemic”. Millions would already be dead - if it were remotely true…

I wish I had as much spare time as you seem to have.

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Time - to do what?

I can type faster than most people can speak, so surely it is better for me to vent my spleen on here rather than corner you in some RDC waiting room somewhere. :smiling_imp: