Franglais:
I nearly died from laughing at the news about Priti Patel, she and Number 10 are upset that Fleet St is telling fibs…
I do wonder if Priti Patel wasn’t a Conservative minister, if the media would be full of how great that a woman from an Asian background has made it to one of the most senior ministerial positions in the Government and these reports would be spun as a Systematic Racist, Sexist, Misogynist, Civil Service stuck in the days of empire, working against her?
On the flip side I’ve read loads of comments on various social media platforms calling for her to be Prime Minister, but these comments are from the type of people many sections of the media report as Racist, Sexist, Misogynist and supposedly nasty fascists.
But then most of the chattering political class, that is politicians, journalists and activists, on all sides, just regurgitate their partisan lines regardless of how illogical it might be and make sure they remain in their particular bubble to avoid proper scrutiny.
robroy:
No I’m all for free speech, comments, arguments, and debates, it’s the continuous whinging and moaning about not winning a referendum and not getting your own way that gets on everyone’s ■■■■.
Constructive appropriate criticism is one thing, nitpicking and clutching at straws at every opportunity at every occasion, solely to display disgruntlement with a situation that has been decided and sealed is another.
This is a thread about Johnson, not Brexit.
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Nah it’s all to do with Brexit, that is my whole point ie, Bad loser remainers jumping on the anti Boris bandwagon.
Look I ain’t an apologist for Johnson or any other MP, no MP or politician is worth a ■■■■ imo, but on this forum, if May had still been PM, would the same predictable posts by the same predictable members (by shear coincidence all with past remainer opinions) be of the same predictable opinions?
I reckon not.
the nodding donkey:
So, what are the odds that one of his disgruntled ex-cabinet members has decided to 'have a word’s, and he’s finally ended up in the ditch as he so richly deserves?
I mean, when Australia burnt, its leader went on holiday, and got rightly kicked in the gonads, and told to get his arse back sharpish. This country floods, the dear leader is nowhere to be seen, and everybody goes “mehhh”.
Wtf you talking about Scott Morrison the Australian PM, didn’t get told to get his rear back… he was outed on Facebook and they threatened legal action for the person posting his pic… he is still in power, and after the floods here, all is well as such… we have had major floods here also in Australia, just don’t whine like back in the UK now you lot will cry over a cm of snow…
robroy:
Nah it’s all to do with Brexit, that is my whole point ie, Bad loser remainers jumping on the anti Boris bandwagon.
Look I ain’t an apologist for Johnson or any other MP, no MP or politician is worth a [zb] imo, but on this forum, if May had still been PM, would the same predictable posts by the same predictable members (by shear coincidence all with past remainer opinions) be of the same predictable opinions?
I reckon not.
You’re shoe-horning Brexit into a thread that’s trying to show up the inadequacy of Johnson as a PM.
(Not that his inadequacy has to be pointed out by anyone, he’s doing a fine job of doing that by himself).
robroy:
Nah it’s all to do with Brexit, that is my whole point ie, Bad loser remainers jumping on the anti Boris bandwagon.
Look I ain’t an apologist for Johnson or any other MP, no MP or politician is worth a [zb] imo, but on this forum, if May had still been PM, would the same predictable posts by the same predictable members (by shear coincidence all with past remainer opinions) be of the same predictable opinions?
I reckon not.
You’re shoe-horning Brexit into a thread that’s trying to show up the inadequacy of Johnson as a PM.
(Not that his inadequacy has to be pointed out by anyone, he’s doing a fine job of doing that by himself).
As Rob stated, what would it achieve for Johnson to turn up, he has more pressing issues to worry about than some tin hut in the middle of a welsh ballet being flooded, or could it be the years,of labour allowing flood planes to be built on etc …
robroy:
No I’m all for free speech, comments, arguments, and debates, it’s the continuous whinging and moaning about not winning a referendum and not getting your own way that gets on everyone’s ■■■■.
Constructive appropriate criticism is one thing, nitpicking and clutching at straws at every opportunity at every occasion, solely to display disgruntlement with a situation that has been decided and sealed is another.
This is a thread about Johnson, not Brexit.
Turning up to areas hit by flooding would have meant exposure to the public, who, annoyingly for Johnson, can’t be coached in advance as to what to say to him.
So, best course of action for him? Stay away and avoid awkward questions.
The man is inept when it comes to answering questions he hasn’t had briefed on in advance.
They are all inept when not coached in advance. I’ve always held the opinion that having a PM waddling around a disaster area is neither use nor ornament. Let the services get on with their job rather than have a politician getting in the way.
albion:
They are all inept when not coached in advance. I’ve always held the opinion that having a PM waddling around a disaster area is neither use nor ornament. Let the services get on with their job rather than have a politician getting in the way.
Fair point. It’s not just the floods though.
Thatcher, Cameron, Blair etc . . . like them or loathe them, at least they didn’t hide from the public.
I’m sure I read somewhere that the EU had laws or something in place that prevented rivers being dredged and the removal of the slit buildup which results in the flooding.
Not sure of the accuracy of that though.
Like everything, you get conflicting stories.
robroy:
Just wondering what are the chances here.
How many of these anti Boris posts are from those who STILL can not accept a democratic result (or in fact 2)
Don’t forget the anti Boris posts which say he’s just a closet Remainer keeping the Remainers in the game with his bs ‘transition’ period.As for a democratic result.You mean the one in which the electorate was given the choice between the LibDem in all but name Party, with false flag Bojo’s pretence of Nationalism and controlled opposition champagne soviet socialist Corbyn and his Blairite sidekick Starmer.
Boris has done well enough getting this far with a full majority which, via ■■■■■■■■ he can wield like a veritable “Rod of Iron”… And currently seems to be doing just that!
Got my vote, and continues to keep hold of it.
We want “Do-ers” - not “excuses” from our politicians…
I should clarify, that whilst I used the current flooding situation as an example, I’m not minimizing Boris’ absence to that, and neither is this a Brexit ‘whinge’… Apart from carefully managed soundbites and cabinet reshuffle pictures, he’s been absent to the public. If nothing else, it shows contempt. This will be for one of two reasons.
He’s utterly useless, out of his depth, and doesn’t know what to do now the time for popular blustering is over. Others around him pull the strings, but he cant be trusted not to shoot his mouth, promise things that cant be done, and is kept ‘indoors’…
Or,
He’s a Donald Trump, and will do whatever he wants, to benefit his and his chums fortunes. He’s already given the go ahead the HS2. Let’s see what happens next.
albion:
They are all inept when not coached in advance. I’ve always held the opinion that having a PM waddling around a disaster area is neither use nor ornament. Let the services get on with their job rather than have a politician getting in the way.
Fair point. It’s not just the floods though.
Thatcher, Cameron, Blair etc . . . like them or loathe them, at least they didn’t hide from the public.
Ok so heres one einstein. Maybe he is hiding from the public becuase he is actually going to do a job? Hence the reason he hasnt shown up in waders with a fishing rod like most would think he would.
Hows the sturge doing? Is she ready to pop cavaiar yet?
the nodding donkey:
So, what are the odds that one of his disgruntled ex-cabinet members has decided to 'have a word’s, and he’s finally ended up in the ditch as he so richly deserves?
I mean, when Australia burnt, its leader went on holiday, and got rightly kicked in the gonads, and told to get his arse back sharpish. This country floods, the dear leader is nowhere to be seen, and everybody goes “mehhh”.
I think you’ll find hes busy running the country,and doing a fine job of it too,he has people to do all the running about for him.
I see that prick Steptoe Corbyn is poking his snout in,why doesn’t he just fade away,he should have got the message at the last election,silly old fool.
Winseer:
Boris has done well enough getting this far with a full majority which, via ■■■■■■■■ he can wield like a veritable “Rod of Iron”… And currently seems to be doing just that!
Got my vote, and continues to keep hold of it.
We want “Do-ers” - not “excuses” from our politicians…
He’s got a cabinet of mostly remainers.May is still there.He intends on expanding Kahn’s zb hole into what remains of the Conservative home counties heartlands since they did the same thing since the 1930’s.
Javid got chucked under the bus because even he could see that we can’t afford HS2, even if they could afford to alienate Oxford’s Conservative vote by putting Bojo’s toy train set through the place wrecking yet more of our green and pleasant land.
As for ■■■■■■■■ you mean the same ■■■■■■■■ who is happy to tie us to the EU as part of a bs ‘transition’ period.
So if Bojo is supposedly up for no deal then what is he waiting for why are we still here tied to the dockside and what ‘could’ any deal possibly be assuming that fish,cash and sovereignty are all off the table.
Oh wait you did say that you’re a floating LibDem voter.So you’d obviously be happy with a LibDem in all but name Party masquerading as Nationalists.
Nobody has pointed out that every time a bigwig of any description turns up at a disaster all work stops while they are there, and loads of police are taken off proper jobs to ■■■■■■ them and make sure they don’t get dirty! And they cost money which would be better spent providing relief for the sufferers.Does anyone know what Prince Charles’s visit to Pontypridd cost?
Official visits are just a pain in the *ss!
emmerson2:
Nobody has pointed out that every time a bigwig of any description turns up at a disaster all work stops while they are there, and loads of police are taken off proper jobs to ■■■■■■ them and make sure they don’t get dirty! And they cost money which would be better spent providing relief for the sufferers.Does anyone know what Prince Charles’s visit to Pontypridd cost?
Official visits are just a pain in the *ss!
Some have said that.
None of them however have quite explained why Johnson isn’t doing the rounds now, but did manage to do the rounds in November? Remember? Before the elections, when he also busy, and PM and everything else.
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Having VIPs floating around in the early stages of an emergency is a pain, agreed, but it is past that now.
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And as N.D. says it isn’t just his absence here, it’s a symptom of his attitude to the public and Government in general.
the nodding donkey:
I should clarify, that whilst I used the current flooding situation as an example, I’m not minimizing Boris’ absence to that, and neither is this a Brexit ‘whinge’… Apart from carefully managed soundbites and cabinet reshuffle pictures, he’s been absent to the public. If nothing else, it shows contempt. This will be for one of two reasons.
He’s utterly useless, out of his depth, and doesn’t know what to do now the time for popular blustering is over. Others around him pull the strings, but he cant be trusted not to shoot his mouth, promise things that cant be done, and is kept ‘indoors’…
Or,
He’s a Donald Trump, and will do whatever he wants, to benefit his and his chums fortunes. He’s already given the go ahead the HS2. Let’s see what happens next.
As the Labour party decided to make itself unelectable, there wasn’t really an alternative during the election, so we got Boris, I certainly looked at my ballot paper with a great deal of sadness as none of the manifestos looked worthy of my vote.
And unless one of the main parties get their head out of their arse and start looking at their own policies, candidates and party activists as the problem, instead of blaming everyone else we’re going to be stuck here for sometime.
As for HS2, I believe both Labour and the Lib Dems said they’d back it and extend it, if you didn’t want it I hope you voted for the parties who said during the election they would scrap it, that was UKIP and The Brexit Party, but then no doubt if the Government had scrapped it, the criticism would be Boris favouring air travel over rail and why can to get from London to Marrakesh on high speed trains, but not from London to Birmingham?
discoman:
or could it be the years,of labour allowing flood planes to be built on etc …
Why only Labour building on Flood Plains?
Everywhere I go they’re building houses, the small market town I live near is destined to double in size, this has been happening for the last few years, all under a Conservative Government and in a staunchly Conservative area, can’t blame Labour Governments or Councillors for any of those planning decisions.
discoman:
or could it be the years,of labour allowing flood planes to be built on etc …
Why only Labour building on Flood Plains?
Everywhere I go they’re building houses, the small market town I live near is destined to double in size, this has been happening for the last few years, all under a Conservative Government and in a staunchly Conservative area, can’t blame Labour Governments or Councillors for any of those planning decisions.
We’ve had a joint LibDem/Tory planning policy since the coalition and the Tories showing no wish to repeal the resulting National Planning policy better known as the ‘developers charter’.While these scumbags know they can’t get elected on that so they blatantly lie in their election literature.
Since seeing our Local Plan intentions I’ve been planning on a possible move away to a more rural area elsewhere in the country.However what I’ve found is loads of nice houses at the right price in idyllic country areas.However a closer look results in finding out that their rural selling point is often defeated by the surrounding fields obviously in the process of being sold off for development.While if our Green Belt is up for grabs then those areas have obviously got no chance.
Have to wait until the dust settles then see what’s left.No doubt those areas then inundated with refugees and the developers moving in again to meet the resulting ‘demand’.
The-Snowman:
I’m sure I read somewhere that the EU had laws or something in place that prevented rivers being dredged and the removal of the slit buildup which results in the flooding.
Not sure of the accuracy of that though.
Like everything, you get conflicting stories.
Haven’t heard that one before. I expect someone will have said it though.
Spare ten minutes? Google ‘Euromyths’. See what rubbish has been written. Look at the origins of most of it.
Spare half hour? Google ‘Johnson lies’.
No, don’t. Wait until you’re settled down for an entire evening.
