those portable metal high fences for accidents that stop rubber neckers on the other carriageway, see they are being used near sheffield, the southbound carrigeway had been some major accident near meadowhall, we were going northbound and there was not a queue at all, people were not braking/slowing down to look because you couldt see anything, you could just see the top of a wrecker infront of a truck and i presume another truck loading another vehicle onto its flat bed, i dont know i could only see the flashing lights
but the entire crash scene was fenced off, right up to the emergency service vehicles, so just wondered when they will be used as standard procedure by all HA crash crews as clearly they work from what i have seen in the past.
Not too sure on the price but I think they would be great if used all the time by the HA. I know that the police use a similar system to block streets off to keep football fans apart and they work very well.
Must admit, i’m unsure about rubberneckers.
When your driving along the motor way and you see blue lights ahead, it’s natural to slow down, then you have the knock on affect.
rambo19:
Must admit, i’m unsure about rubberneckers.
When your driving along the motor way and you see blue lights ahead, it’s natural to slow down, then you have the knock on affect.
Granted, but you get the accident caused when two numpties are looking at the carnage, one realises he’s about to plough into the back of the car in front, slams on and then recieves a transit up the jacksey.
Why is it that at an incident every police car, ambulance and Fire engine has to have multiple blue strobe lights flashing?
A couple at the back may be needed but the rest could turn the ■■■■ things off. I bet they have to leave the engines running too, or they would flatten their batteries.
Santa:
Why is it that at an incident every police car, ambulance and Fire engine has to have multiple blue strobe lights flashing?
A couple at the back may be needed but the rest could turn the ■■■■ things off. I bet they have to leave the engines running too, or they would flatten their batteries.
They have a run-on device, leaves the motor running without the keys, open a door and it cuts out. Or the last police car I was in did.
All HA managing agents (Carillion,Amey etc) all have these incident screens now.In my area they have been available since late last year.Nearly every depot has a screen,on a trailer pulled by a silver land rover.The two incidents where I have used a screen,the effect on the opposite c/way was astonishing.Within five minutes of the screen being erected,traffic that was crawling,was fast flowing.The new ones do have some limitations as to when they can be used,wind speed,safety clearance area,but are more flexable than the old type that had to be fixed to the central res.The new ones could be used in lane 2,to shield lane 1 and h/s and keep lane 3 running.
Santa:
Why is it that at an incident every police car, ambulance and Fire engine has to have multiple blue strobe lights flashing?
A couple at the back may be needed but the rest could turn the ■■■■ things off. I bet they have to leave the engines running too, or they would flatten their batteries.
They have a run-on device, leaves the motor running without the keys, open a door and it cuts out. Or the last police car I was in did.
Ive always wondered what they did at emergency scenes, especially as the fire brigade can be at a place pretty much all day/night…
How long (time factor) does it take to deploy these screen things ?
What time period would an incident have to be protracted for ? to make deployment of the screens effective and effecient ?
Didnt the M6 through the "bright lights " used to have those central res upright shade things once upon a time ,
on top of the barriers to block views opposite ■■
How long (time factor) does it take to deploy these screen things ?
depends how long it takes the poles to jump out the back of the van with sheets of metal strapped to their backs (its a bit clumbersome) after the “go,go,go” command,
only time ive seen them used was at the double fatality on m6 j17ish a few months back. didnt really seem to help with the other side much was stuck for about an hour from 18 to 17.
All of the maintenance depots on my patch have them. From them being requested, they can be on scene within 30 minutes. I’m not sure what the deploy times are like in other areas.
I bet they have to leave the engines running too, or they would flatten their batteries.
The Essex traffic cars have a pair of ge batteries in the boot floor to power the electrics whilst they are stopped.
but the entire crash scene was fenced off, right up to the emergency service vehicles
It’s a good idea but only until the Incident Support Unit or whatever it’s called cones off the outside lane on the clear side to install and manage the barrier.
The Highway Man:
All of the maintenance depots on my patch have them. From them being requested, they can be on scene within 30 minutes. I’m not sure what the deploy times are like in other areas.
In my patch its a bit longer to be honest due to the contractor messing about. I normally request it, find out where it is and get it escorted to the scene through the traffic. One of the limitations is getting it there. If it needs to come through gridlocked traffic it will be delayed.
Time to put it up is less than 15 minutes for 2 people for one trailer. If its a big scene we may use more than one trailer. Cost of them, so ive been told, was £14000 each, cheap in my opinion.
If its a fatal or life changing injury RTC it will normally take at least 6 hours to clear as a minimum so i would use it then. I work on anything over a couple of hours due to the short time it takes to put into use, subject to its limitations of weather wind etc.
The comment about lights. In Holland and a lot of Europe, i know about Holland due to working with them, as a new vehicle arrives at a scene he turns his light on and turns off the ones on the vehicle in front so theres only ever one lot of lights on for parked vehicles. Other rules apply for moving vehicles but the stopped ones only ever show one lot of lights. No suggestions yet of it happening here though.
oscardog:
The comment about lights. In Holland and a lot of Europe, i know about Holland due to working with them, as a new vehicle arrives at a scene he turns his light on and turns off the ones on the vehicle in front so theres only ever one lot of lights on for parked vehicles. Other rules apply for moving vehicles but the stopped ones only ever show one lot of lights. No suggestions yet of it happening here though.
Mick
Sounds like a good idea to me. I hate those dazzling flashing lights that are just at my eye level to cause maximum discomfort.
