What's the point of totting-up?

paul@midway:
■■■■ sucking homophobic ■■?

Doesn’t quite work does it :laughing:

Does for me…I love to dish out blow jobs

seems to be some bloke in Liverpool with 45 points and still driving
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25626147

The totting up system is an absolute crock of ■■■■.

There was a chap who recently got banned for driving something like 57/63 and 74 mph respectively in the 50 mph limit on the M1 in Yorkshire. Sure, he was caught speeding multiple times, but it doesn’t make it unsafe or dangerous. 80 mph, for example, sounds a lot in a 50 mph limit, but there are roads where 80 mph is nothing. A rule gets put in place, and that’s it, ■■■■■■■■ to different conditions/time of day etc, we say it’s ‘X’ and that’s it.

Bearing that in mind, you can do something really stupid and get 6 points for careless driving.

Compare the two. The person driving safely (but contrary to the law) gets banned, whereas the one driving dangerously/carelessly does not.

Hence it being a crock of ■■■■.

Don’t get me wrong, you have to be bit stupid to miss the ‘average speed check’ signs and knowingly flout the speed limit in such a place, but ultimately, is that what driving should be about? Spending 10-50% of your time looking out for signs, cameras and things out to get you?

Going off topic here now!

snapper711:
Does for me…I love to dish out blow jobs

…and you dragged up a 4 1/2-year old thread just to say that?

Rob K:
I thought I was too, but you know me, I can’t resist replying to an utterly stupid post/person (delete as appropriate).

Neither can I.
Did you buy your attitude problem or have you gained it over a number of years?

MrFlibble:

snapper711:
Does for me…I love to dish out blow jobs

…and you dragged up a 4 1/2-year old thread just to say that?

lol :wink:

Who gives a ■■■■ !!!

what I think ■■■■■ is that if you are a “professional driver” clocking up 100-150 k miles per year,why should 12 points ban you when joe public only does 10 or 15 k miles per year to cop the same ban…I think we should be allowed 120 points to be fair,though obviously it goes without saying that this should only apply to class 1 driving gods and more obviously agency plobbers would be excluded. :slight_smile:

tachograph:

mrpj:

tachograph:
Whilst I’m not advocating doing 43 mph in a 30 mph zone

Reading the rest of your post actually you are.

Not at-all, I just don’t see why a lorry drivers punishment should so outweigh the punishment of a car driver for the same offence.

What about the car driver who needs to travel for work? Or the one who works nowhere near public transport links? Or is on call 24 hours a day?

Surely they’d need to look after their licence, just as a vocational driver would / should? Or their licence would be just as valuable to them?

What’s the point of having a system that is not used?

I have just read about a lorry driver, caught driving at 43mph in a 30mph zone. He gets 4 points to go with the 10 he already has but doesn’t get banned.

waddy640:
What’s the point of having a system that is not used?

I have just read about a lorry driver, caught driving at 43mph in a 30mph zone. He gets 4 points to go with the 10 he already has but doesn’t get banned.

When you need your licence for your job (to ultimately pay the fine) then you get off from the ban on “exceptional hardship”. I did have 14 points on my licence at one point (6 for speeding (twice over the limit) and 8 for no insurance) but I was working for Co-op as a milkman at the time and so needed my licence to remain in employment. I do however believe that there should be a cap on it. If you are already over the max 12 points/ban point, then any further infringement should automatically receive a ban regardless of your current circumstances, ie. you were given a final chance, you blew it, now it’s tough ■■■■, deal with it.

Rob K:

waddy640:
What’s the point of having a system that is not used?

I have just read about a lorry driver, caught driving at 43mph in a 30mph zone. He gets 4 points to go with the 10 he already has but doesn’t get banned.

When you need your licence for your job (to ultimately pay the fine) then you get off from the ban on “exceptional hardship”. I did have 14 points on my licence at one point (6 for speeding (twice over the limit) and 8 for no insurance) but I was working for Co-op as a milkman at the time and so needed my licence to remain in employment. I do however believe that there should be a cap on it. If you are already over the max 12 points/ban point, then any further infringement should automatically receive a ban regardless of your current circumstances, ie. you were given a final chance, you blew it, now it’s tough [zb], deal with it.

But where do you draw the line? How many last chances do you get? It defeats the object of 12 points, that should be the limit or why stipulate a particular figure.

waddy640:

Rob K:

waddy640:
What’s the point of having a system that is not used?

I have just read about a lorry driver, caught driving at 43mph in a 30mph zone. He gets 4 points to go with the 10 he already has but doesn’t get banned.

When you need your licence for your job (to ultimately pay the fine) then you get off from the ban on “exceptional hardship”. I did have 14 points on my licence at one point (6 for speeding (twice over the limit) and 8 for no insurance) but I was working for Co-op as a milkman at the time and so needed my licence to remain in employment. I do however believe that there should be a cap on it. If you are already over the max 12 points/ban point, then any further infringement should automatically receive a ban regardless of your current circumstances, ie. you were given a final chance, you blew it, now it’s tough [zb], deal with it.

But where do you draw the line? How many last chances do you get? It defeats the object of 12 points, that should be the limit or why stipulate a particular figure.

I’ve just ■■■■■■■ told you if you bother to open your eyes and read. FFS.

Because if 12 points isn’t a ban what number do you get banned at, is what the guy is saying.

Saaamon:
Because if 12 points isn’t a ban what number do you get banned at, is what the guy is saying.

At the point of whatever the offence is that gets you the most points, obviously.

So going on your theory he shouldn’t have been done for doing 43 because the thirty limit should be flexible, like the totting-up.

waddy640:
So going on your theory he shouldn’t have been done for doing 43 because the thirty limit should be flexible, like the totting-up.

No. You’re just being stupid for the sake of it. I’m done with this thread. Find someone else to debate your (non)point with please.

Rob K:

waddy640:
So going on your theory he shouldn’t have been done for doing 43 because the thirty limit should be flexible, like the totting-up.

No. You’re just being stupid for the sake of it. I’m done with this thread. Find someone else to debate your (non)point with please.

As usual you are only content if you are trying to wind someone up. As soon as they sus you out you don’t want to play.

Oh well goodnight, off to bed are we to sulk.

I think what Rob was saying was, yes if you need your licence to work then sometimes it is ok to go over the points threshold, BUT if you are caught again for any offense then your licence should automatically be revoked.

scottie0011:
I think what Rob was saying was, yes if you need your licence to work then sometimes it is ok to go over the points threshold, BUT if you are caught again for any offense then your licence should automatically be revoked.

But, what others are saying is WHY allow to go over?

Surely the 1st set of points are the warning, the 2nd set are another warning, the 3rd set are a ‘are you taking the ■■■■’ warning and the 4th set are ‘right, ■■■■■■■ numpty, no driving for 28 days’ warning.
based on 3 points per offence

Surely there’s enough warnings in place already, unless you’re being done on something like 3pts per bulb or something daft.

I’ve known a taxi driver (PSV) with 27 points and still driving, but after 12 points, any offence suffered HUGE fines, but then these were the defence to keep his licence - to earn enough to pay the fines…
Vicious circle and it should’ve been curtailed long before he got anywhere near 27, and there was a guy on the radio a few weeks / months back who had even more, 32 if I remember correctly.