Implementation of robust legislation to protect Agency Workers without any Swedish Derogation cop out.
UK bridge heights to be posted in metric units.
UK to switch to driving on the right.
UK to switch to metric speed limits.
Kerragy:
UK to switch to driving on the right.
This is unlikely to ever change. There is so much capital and road safety refinements embodied in the road network, not to mention capital already sunk into cars and vehicle designs, that it will never be changed purely for reasons of symmetry.
Rjan:
Kerragy:
UK to switch to driving on the right.This is unlikely to ever change. There is so much capital and road safety refinements embodied in the road network, not to mention capital already sunk into cars and vehicle designs, that it will never be changed purely for reasons of symmetry.
I agree, but I remember reading somewhere that all new roads built since the early 80’s were designed to be bi-directional in case we did change over but the writer also said that we probably never will.
It’s about time we took another look at “Managed Motorways” in this country - I reckon they are killing people already by this point…
Carryfast:
Winseer:
I think that Turkey turning from a secular state to an … Islamic state - might just be calling a cigar a cigar here.Armed to the teeth with western hardware and a massive army with Merkel just waiting to give them fastrack EU membership.What could possibly go wrong.
Then there’s the possible double cross doomsday scenario of a Turkish/Russian/Syrian/IS/Maybe even also Iranian alliance
I think we might have our answer as to what’s going on in Turkey and Putin’s and Merkel’s real agenda.KGB and Stasi obviously never change. 
So… This gets to be a nice get-out clause for the Turkish Establishment who might otherwise find themselves fighting Russia… What’s the reckoning that those two planes shot down the Russian aircraft on PM’s orders?
Throwing them to the wolves now - is a very easy move to make at this point.
Winseer:
So… This gets to be a nice get-out clause for the Turkish Establishment who might otherwise find themselves fighting Russia… What’s the reckoning that those two planes shot down the Russian aircraft on PM’s orders?Throwing them to the wolves now - is a very easy move to make at this point.
It isn’t just the ‘pilots’ issue that they are getting together over.While why would Erdogan think that would make any difference to the so called ‘hostility’ between him and Putin anyway. 
It seems clear enough that Erdogan and Putin are going for the alliance from hell. Trust me from the point of view of Russia wanting western Europe out of the frame,by turning NATO’s second largest army,in addition to Erdogan’s Islamic allies in the region and those that Merkel has already let in,against it,makes perfect sense.Which might explain why so many of those Middle Eastern etc ‘refugees’ that she’s let in are all men of fighting age.
GORDON 50:
Rjan:
Kerragy:
UK to switch to driving on the right.This is unlikely to ever change. There is so much capital and road safety refinements embodied in the road network, not to mention capital already sunk into cars and vehicle designs, that it will never be changed purely for reasons of symmetry.
I agree, but I remember reading somewhere that all new roads built since the early 80’s were designed to be bi-directional in case we did change over but the writer also said that we probably never will.
For me it is road safety. How many times have you followed a foreign registered vehicle out of Dover which is wobbling all over the place as the driver tries to get their head around the switch over. No wonder you get head-ons with tired drivers coming off of early morning crossings. We are connected to a continent that drives on the right. I am sure that if we had approached the EU for funding before we Brexited funds would have been forthcoming.
Kerragy:
I am sure that if we had approached the EU for funding before we Brexited funds would have been forthcoming.
If we really wanted/need to do it we’d actually have ‘more’ funds available if/when we’re no longer a ‘net contributor’ to the EU budget.
Winseer:
There’s a silver lining to all this - if Turkey end up being booted out of NATO as well as “being refused entry to the EU forever”.Putin might be getting Turkey for Christmas yet!
The most powerful way to bring Turkey to heel - is to threaten "exclusion from NATO. Putin would be in a position to invade as soon as he likes, to no consequence from the West.
If he handed over the East of the country to the Kurds to form a new state with - the West can’t really complain about his motives - can they?…And to think in the good old days - we knew where we stood in Istanbul…
the yanks have a base there, can’t see them wanting to move out with their nukes
Carryfast:
Kerragy:
I am sure that if we had approached the EU for funding before we Brexited funds would have been forthcoming.If we really wanted/need to do it we’d actually have ‘more’ funds available if/when we’re no longer a ‘net contributor’ to the EU budget.
I’m not sure how that works. Will leaving the EU give us more money to spend?
Kerragy:
Carryfast:
Kerragy:
I am sure that if we had approached the EU for funding before we Brexited funds would have been forthcoming.If we really wanted/need to do it we’d actually have ‘more’ funds available if/when we’re no longer a ‘net contributor’ to the EU budget.
I’m not sure how that works. Will leaving the EU give us more money to spend?
On the basis that we are one of the few ‘net contributors’ how can it possibly be anything else.IE we pay more in than we ever receive back in return.Which isn’t even offset in the form of trade because we’re also a ‘net importer’ added to being a net budget contributor.
Thanks for that. I don’t want to derail this thread so I will check out the Brexit topic. I’ve only skimmed it so far.
I just assumed that our economy would shrink because of the lack of access to the Free Market.
tommy t:
the yanks have a base there, can’t see them wanting to move out with their nukes
That would be before the sudden realisation that Erdogan and Turkey is actually no longer an ally even assuming it ever was.
Which leaves the big question of where would Greece and Serbia and Hungary etc stand assuming a Russian/Turkish Islamic alliance.
What is certain all those who’ve been having a go at Trump will have egg on their face being that he will be an essential line of defence in the face of that nightmare scenario.
Kerragy:
Thanks for that. I don’t want to derail this thread so I will check out the Brexit topic. I’ve only skimmed it so far.I just assumed that our economy would shrink because of the lack of access to the Free Market.
The question of the post Brexit budget and EU relationship situation seems spot on the topic ?.
Contrary to the remain dominated media there’s nothing to fear in that regard.EFTA member state,but just as importantly non EEA member state,just puts into the similar situation as Switzerland.The only difference being that we’ve got more bargaining power from our less EU export dominated economy.
Kerragy:
Thanks for that. I don’t want to derail this thread so I will check out the Brexit topic. I’ve only skimmed it so far.I just assumed that our economy would shrink because of the lack of access to the Free Market.
If we buy stuff from the EU currently, and lose money on that incoming trade - we are essentially overpaying for that produce.
SO… If we re-source it from somewhere else in the world - we will end up saving money, which will make food prices FALL once set up, and the danger goes back to being “deflation” rather than runaway inflation again.
We currently don’t sell anywhere near enough of OUR stuff to the continent. Once again, when it comes to Produce - the EU tells us what to grow and when - ■■■■ seed, lavender, etc. which isn’t much bloody use to the UK in terms of being self-sufficient in ANYTHING at all. Once we follow EU instructions - we’re at the mercy of whatever price they want to pay for the stuff we can’t use up ourselves…
Farmers should already be planning to “grow what they bloody well please” again. You don’t need a gold-encrusted invitation to do thus.
The Government’s involvement with “pushing through Brexit” - is merely about “navigating the laws” rather than actually setting up the deals. Individuals involved with buying and selling via the EU currently - can re-set all that stuff themselves, without further ado. We might also consider bringing back pounds and ounces at this time as well… 
The “Free market” is whatever we make it: Rest of the world in the future - EU for the time being.
We can re-source EVERYTHING import-wise from other parts of the world.
The EU can’t buy London property elsewhere though, so that’s likely to take a hit - boohoo!
We’re not really worried about “them buying our cars” seeing as “our” cars are already owned lock stock and barrel by them already.
If they want to sell it back to us for a quid, because “they are losing too much to remain open” - then let them! 
No one is going to believe any bull that involves paying over even more money to the EU for any kind of compensation…
Now let’s just get on with it.
It would be nice come Article 50 declaration day - if at that point - PM can say “We’ve finished re-setting all our trade routes elsewhere. We’re not interested in your single market. The drawbridge goes up today, and there’s bugger all you can do to stop us now you can’t hold us to ransom any more.” 
Pip Dunn T&D:
So, If you were the Secretary of State for Transport, with a blank sheet of paper and no input or rules from Brussels, what changes would you make to make truck driving a better profession in the UK?Please try and keep it serious and sensible (I don’t mind a bit of humour, but no calls to insist every truck has a Gardner 180!), and can i say any posts may be used in the feature and published in T&D.
This forum is absolutely unbelievable and I mean unbelievable like!
The quested as stated in my quote and why you should comment below.
And yet I see since my last post it has been completely off topic again!
Who will take this rubbish seriously now then; who will!
Tom Cobbles:
Pip Dunn T&D:
So, If you were the Secretary of State for Transport, with a blank sheet of paper and no input or rules from Brussels, what changes would you make to make truck driving a better profession in the UK?Please try and keep it serious and sensible (I don’t mind a bit of humour, but no calls to insist every truck has a Gardner 180!), and can i say any posts may be used in the feature and published in T&D.
This forum is absolutely unbelievable and I mean unbelievable like!
The quested as stated in my quote and why you should comment below.
And yet I see since my last post it has been completely off topic again!
Who will take this rubbish seriously now then; who will!
Other than the drivers’ hours regs and the dcpc there isn’t much else that the EU actually controls regarding domestic operations.In addition to issues like speed limiters v the UK 60 mph limit.All of which seemed to have been covered within all the replies.
Maybe you could add to that the possibility of vehicle sales operations and operators being able to sell/use different spec vehicles outside of EU type approval regs for those who might appreciate the difference.As in the case of New Zealand.
While much of the rest of the conversation went along the reasonable lines of we’ve first got to get out of the EU in the form of at least invoking article 50,including removing the possibility of swapping EU for EEA member state,before we can discuss a post EU environment with any confidence.
Winseer:
The “Free market” is whatever we make it: Rest of the world in the future - EU for the time being.
No, you’re whatever the free market makes you, which is usually very poor.
I saw a recent statistic saying that US workers’ earnings have only just returned to the same level in real terms as in 1969.
I remember doing a calculation once about the real terms cost of household goods in the 1960s, when a cooker used to cost as much as a small new car does today. But normal wages were about the equivalent to £50k today in real terms (which is clearly well beyond today’s median - and is appreciably more than many two-worker households earn!).
And thats why this thread is no longer a sticky thread no more.
It will just end up as a pile of crap hidden in the server with the rest of the junk that gets posted hear