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polo:
Thurs pm joined m6 at stoke,just pass keele services traffic started to back up due to an accident nr 16 driving time I had was hour half left before needing. Brake my intended stop was Lymm for the night by the traffic got to 16 I was flashing up on digi for a break I knew I wouldn’t make sandbach so I came off at j16 got to island laybys full wide load bay on roundabout full so my option was to join the northbound slip and stop for a 30 min not ideal I know but away from motorway 22 mins into my break 8 mins remaining mrs pc traffic cop stops tells me to move on I explained my situation saying I have 8 mins left for my break she said I don’t care your moving to sandbach she quoted to me that she’s could endorse my licence for stopping on a motorway I said I been stuck in traffic I had no where else to park so I ask her. To sign a print out to authorise my movement before my break was up she’s said I will log it as a incident with control so I moved to sandbach to start another break sorry it’s long winded but for 8 mins I would of thought she would stay with me but I wasn’t a obstruction or anything foreign truck were on hard shoulder of main carriageway having 45s
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Due to the circumstances, you are allowed to slightly deviate from your driving time and carry on the the next available service station. But you should take a print out at the first opportunity and make a written reason on the back as to why you went over your time and where. As long as it isn’t a regular occurance, nothing much will be said about it.
Just chill out mate. Out of your control. Print out x2 explaining what happened. No probs, hand 1 in, you keep 2nd 
You haven’t broken the law. You were instructed to move by a police officer.
Harry Monk:
You haven’t broken the law. You were instructed to move by a police officer.
Harry, he hasn’t broken the law in relation to the tacho rules, as he was instructed to move by a police officer, but, he was breaking the law by parking up for a break on the hard shoulder
there are plenty of layby’s around junction 16, there is also a service area just up the road towards Alsager, approx 100 meters from the roundabout of the M6
To be fair she was right not a smart place to stop better to continue and find a safer option …
A shame you couldn’t have found a way to continue the conversation for a further eight min’s.
Not surprised you got moved on though.
berewic:
A shame you couldn’t have found a way to continue the conversation for a further eight min’s.Not surprised you got moved on though.
Yes, if he had mentioned that a woman should be at home washing pots and baking I am sure the conversation could have been extended slightly. 8 minutes should not be so difficult. You could also tell her your ABS light came on and the company rule is that you must stop immediately. That would have taken 8 minutes to get sorted. 
If I have ever felt the need to stop on a hard shoulder or slip road for a comfort break I always lift the grill on the truck, if plod comes along just tell them that temp gauge hit the red and you are waiting for it to cool down before checking fluid levels…never failed me yet, but has said before you are allowed to continue to a safe place to stop if you have been held up due to unforseen circumstances, just write it on tacho or printout.
bonnet up…rad cap off…overheating in slow traffic…letting it cool for 10 mins then ill be on my way,you dont want an artic broke down on the busy motorway do you■■?
polo:
Thurs pm joined m6 at stoke,just pass keele services traffic started to back up due to an accident nr 16 driving time I had was hour half left before needing. Brake my intended stop was Lymm for the night by the traffic got to 16 I was flashing up on digi for a break I knew I wouldn’t make sandbach so I came off at j16 got to island laybys full wide load bay on roundabout full so my option was to join the northbound slip and stop for a 30 min not ideal I know but away from motorway 22 mins into my break 8 mins remaining mrs pc traffic cop stops tells me to move on I explained my situation saying I have 8 mins left for my break she said I don’t care your moving to sandbach she quoted to me that she’s could endorse my licence for stopping on a motorway I said I been stuck in traffic I had no where else to park so I ask her. To sign a print out to authorise my movement before my break was up she’s said I will log it as a incident with control so I moved to sandbach to start another break sorry it’s long winded but for 8 mins I would of thought she would stay with me but I wasn’t a obstruction or anything foreign truck were on hard shoulder of main carriageway having 45s
You’re a fool for stopping on the hard shoulder. You were not in an emergency situation. Tacho rules tell you that you can deviate from the normal rules in situations like this and that you should make a note of the reason for your deviation on a print-out or on the back of your disc. That ‘others are doing it’ does not make you right, it makes you sound like a school boy. ‘It wasn’t my fault, a big boy made me do it’.
Hopefully you’ve learned from this experience and will not be so stupid next time.
polo:
Thurs pm joined m6 at stoke,just pass keele services traffic started to back up due to an accident nr 16 driving time I had was hour half left before needing. Brake my intended stop was Lymm for the night by the traffic got to 16 I was flashing up on digi for a break I knew I wouldn’t make sandbach so I came off at j16 got to island laybys full wide load bay on roundabout full so my option was to join the northbound slip and stop for a 30 min not ideal I know but away from motorway 22 mins into my break 8 mins remaining mrs pc traffic cop stops tells me to move on I explained my situation saying I have 8 mins left for my break she said I don’t care your moving to sandbach she quoted to me that she’s could endorse my licence for stopping on a motorway I said I been stuck in traffic I had no where else to park so I ask her. To sign a print out to authorise my movement before my break was up she’s said I will log it as a incident with control so I moved to sandbach to start another break sorry it’s long winded but for 8 mins I would of thought she would stay with me but I wasn’t a obstruction or anything foreign truck were on hard shoulder of main carriageway having 45s
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I would also learn punctuation. 
I would never consider taking a rest on the hard shoulder even slip roads regardless of how far away the next services or layby was.
This is where drivers hours rules end up risking rather than improving road safety. Drivers, especially post-digi, are so paranoid about going x mins over that they park-up in unsuitable places.
I parked on hard shoulder just on the exit slip from southwaite svcs one night. plod asked me why i was there and not in the lorry park.
i pointed out the numerous coach loads of ■■■■■■ up numpty football fans staggering about and the fact i had a tesco trailer full of beer and stuffs.
Reply; fair play mate, dont blame ya.
Own Account Driver:
This is where drivers hours rules end up risking rather than improving road safety. Drivers, especially post-digi, are so paranoid about going x mins over that they park-up in unsuitable places.
This is where a misunderstanding of the drivers’ hours rules ends up risking road safety.
Under no circumstances do the drivers’ hours rules overrule other parts of road traffic law. You are certainly not entitled to park up on the hard shoulder to take a tacho break, as you would be breaching the law applicable to Special Roads (i.e. motorways). The OP could have been ticketed for that offence and should think himself lucky merely to be moved on.
If the traffic has completely stopped, that is, the carriageway is closed, put the tacho to break - you are neither driving nor carrying out other work, and you can use the time to recuperate. You may get the necessary break whilst you’re waiting for the traffic to start again.
If, more likely, the traffic is stop/start, the drivers’ hours rules allow for unforeseen circumstances. Take the break at the nearest safe place and write the explanation on the back of the chart (or printout on a digital equipped vehicle).
The EU driver’s hours rules are found in Regulation 561/2006, the latest consolidated version of which is that dated 2010-06-04.
Article 7
After a driving period of four and a half hours a driver shall take an uninterrupted break of not less than 45 minutes, unless he takes a rest period.
This break may be replaced by a break of at least 15 minutes followed by a break of at least 30 minutes each distributed over the period in such a way as to comply with the provisions of the first paragraph.
Article 12
Provided that road safety is not thereby jeopardised and to enable the vehicle to reach a suitable stopping place, the driver may depart from Articles 6 to 9 to the extent necessary to ensure the safety of persons, of the vehicle or its load. The driver shall indicate the reason for such departure manually on the record sheet of the recording equipment or on a printout from the recording equipment or in the duty roster, at the latest on arrival at the suitable stopping place.
The Article 12 derogation is specifically granted to uphold road safety. The hard shoulder is not a suitable stopping place - you don’t stop there just because your tachograph is telling you to take a break.
However, you can only make use of Article 12 “to the extent necessary” - you must make use of the first suitable stopping place.
shuttlespanker:
there are plenty of layby’s around junction 16, there is also a service area just up the road towards Alsager, approx 100 meters from the roundabout of the M6
To be fair that service area is usual full of parked cars, and the only place that an artic (or even a rigid) can stop is on the pumps.
Simon:
polo:
Thurs pm joined m6 at stoke,just pass keele services traffic started to back up due to an accident nr 16 driving time I had was hour half left before needing. Brake my intended stop was Lymm for the night by the traffic got to 16 I was flashing up on digi for a break I knew I wouldn’t make sandbach so I came off at j16 got to island laybys full wide load bay on roundabout full so my option was to join the northbound slip and stop for a 30 min not ideal I know but away from motorway 22 mins into my break 8 mins remaining mrs pc traffic cop stops tells me to move on I explained my situation saying I have 8 mins left for my break she said I don’t care your moving to sandbach she quoted to me that she’s could endorse my licence for stopping on a motorway I said I been stuck in traffic I had no where else to park so I ask her. To sign a print out to authorise my movement before my break was up she’s said I will log it as a incident with control so I moved to sandbach to start another break sorry it’s long winded but for 8 mins I would of thought she would stay with me but I wasn’t a obstruction or anything foreign truck were on hard shoulder of main carriageway having 45sYou’re a fool for stopping on the hard shoulder. You were not in an emergency situation. Tacho rules tell you that you can deviate from the normal rules in situations like this and that you should make a note of the reason for your deviation on a print-out or on the back of your disc. That ‘others are doing it’ does not make you right, it makes you sound like a school boy. ‘It wasn’t my fault, a big boy made me do it’.
Hopefully you’ve learned from this experience and will not be so stupid next time.
I read it as he had parked on the North bound sliproad, not the actual motorway
Wheel Nut:
Simon:
polo:
Thurs pm joined m6 at stoke,just pass keele services traffic started to back up due to an accident nr 16 driving time I had was hour half left before needing. Brake my intended stop was Lymm for the night by the traffic got to 16 I was flashing up on digi for a break I knew I wouldn’t make sandbach so I came off at j16 got to island laybys full wide load bay on roundabout full so my option was to join the northbound slip and stop for a 30 min not ideal I know but away from motorway 22 mins into my break 8 mins remaining mrs pc traffic cop stops tells me to move on I explained my situation saying I have 8 mins left for my break she said I don’t care your moving to sandbach she quoted to me that she’s could endorse my licence for stopping on a motorway I said I been stuck in traffic I had no where else to park so I ask her. To sign a print out to authorise my movement before my break was up she’s said I will log it as a incident with control so I moved to sandbach to start another break sorry it’s long winded but for 8 mins I would of thought she would stay with me but I wasn’t a obstruction or anything foreign truck were on hard shoulder of main carriageway having 45sYou’re a fool for stopping on the hard shoulder. You were not in an emergency situation. Tacho rules tell you that you can deviate from the normal rules in situations like this and that you should make a note of the reason for your deviation on a print-out or on the back of your disc. That ‘others are doing it’ does not make you right, it makes you sound like a school boy. ‘It wasn’t my fault, a big boy made me do it’.
Hopefully you’ve learned from this experience and will not be so stupid next time.
I read it as he had parked on the North bound sliproad, not the actual motorway
he did, but, as soon as you enter the slip road, you are governed by motorway regulations and are not allowed to stop except for an emergency, and, the last time i checked, a tacho break does not count as an emergency
The problem is, of course, trying to explain all this to some Spanish traffic copper three weeks later when he wants his 3,001 euro fine.
If the police are so hot on this offence and it is such a danger to road users, next time I see a VOSA car “parked” on the hard shoulder on the entry slip at an m’way junction I’ll report them. 