What should I tell my [non truck] fleet manager?

i think the best thing to do is to post the video on here so we can see clearly what happened??

Should have said at the start…if I could access the videos I would have.

Unfortunately all in a FM fitted black box affair.

Osmium, I think you’ll need to fill out a near miss report and send it off to the resident Trucknet Accident Investigation/Elf and Safety Brigade for them to decide!!!:grin:

Its quite hard to fathom the fine details of the incident to be honest, although its clear that you have ■■■■■■ them off for them to put you on the hard shoulder. (not condoning it)
But i would also say that maybe the trucks could have read the road a bit better, as soon as it was congesting up i would have been out into lane 2 before the junction anyway, even if that meant backing off and tucking in behind the other trucks in lane 2.

tachograph:
From the way I’m reading the post you’ve done nothing wrong, you was unfortunate to meet a lorry driver who thinks that lorries have some God give right to the road.

It does sound as if you may have been able to save yourself some grief by pulling into lane 2 or 3 and overtaking the other vehicles and this may have been a better option, if it was a safe option.

Having said that I certainly can’t see that you did anything wrong.

As for what you should say to your boss, as I said it doesn’t sound like you did anything wrong but it does sound as though you could have avoided the situation by overtaking the slower vehicles, so perhaps that’s something to think about saying.

Having said that, we haven’t seen the vieos and have no way of knowing the situation regarding other traffic ec’t.

As for what Ian said, I’m failing to see where in the OPs post there’s anything to suggest that he never joined the motorway correctly, just because his presence eventually slowed down another vehicle doesn’t put him in the wrong.

  • 1 on most of this post, you are best to stay out of a situation were you are in between 2 trucks, because some seem hell bent in crashing Into the truck in front of them, and for obvious reasons you don’t want to be in there way when they do it, seems to me that the ECS driver is just a ■■■■.

Osmium sounds like a sensible, quite alert driver aware of his surroundings - unlike many car drivers. My opinion formed by the clear way he is able to relate what happened.

As an advanced driver there was one thing I picked up on straight away. You said:

so I go from the 55-60 mph I’ve joined (at?)down to 50-55 mph, solely by taking my foot off the accelerator.

A signal of intent should always be given when it would benefit another road user (you had a truck up your aris) before changing course or speed. So, in this case, although no braking was needed, a light touch of the brake pedal just enough to operate the brake light switch would have been the correct thing to do.

HOWEVER: By the sound of the arrogant twit driving the truck behind you, who could always clearly see what was happening, it wouldn’t have made any difference in this case.

Agree with other posters that moving out of L1 may have helped, but you are under no obligation to do so. You are quite entitled to run in L1.

I’d guess you may have been matching the (maximum) speed of the truck in L2 hence blocking his return to L1. A no win situation because if you’d slowed even more to let him get past you, you would have angered the following driver even more.

Overall I’d say you did little, if anything wrong.

cliffystephens:
why did i even read this :question: :question:

And me , and at this time in the morning after finishing my sunday job at midnight :exclamation:
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Doesnt it really matter? You didnt crash so whats the problem?

Saaamon:
Doesnt it really matter? You didnt crash so whats the problem?

A lorry driver forced him onto the hard-shoulder and you don’t see a problem, really!!!

tachograph:

Saaamon:
Doesnt it really matter? You didnt crash so whats the problem?

A lorry driver forced him onto the hard-shoulder and you don’t see a problem, really!!!

Lol oh right i see, didnt realise he got pushed on to the H/S. Thats not on at all.

Maybe lorry B was also coming off at the next junction and had a nice gap to go into, until a car joined (OP) and just sat there despite being capable of going considerably faster. When I’m in the car, traveling at the same speed in close proximity to large vehicles is not a place I choose to be. Perhaps next time you might consider getting out the way and leaving them to it. 3 miles is a long time to be waiting to exit.

Driveroneuk:
Agree with other posters that moving out of L1 may have helped, but you are under no obligation to do so. You are quite entitled to run in L1.

But is it considerate to the trucks?

If you take that entitlement to its logical conclusion, cars are entitled to run in L1 at 50 if they so wish.

Meaning 2 is full of trucks doing 56 and I’m towing in a B+E wanting to do my legal max of 60 and I can’t.

Meanwhile 3 is empty because the car drivers are happy to be in 1.

Its a terrible way to use the road. Entitlement or otherwise, I just don’t see it shows awareness of consideration of everyone on the rest of the road.

Would the IAM not recommend not using a motorway if the OP only intends to blindly stick to one lane for three miles. His failure to illuminate the brake is by far from the only thing I noticed.

Ian G:
Where is the twunt?

If the cap fits…

The cap fits the people who are using a thread about motorway driving to call me a ■■■■■■■■ and a twunt.

Quite why you need personal insults in a discussion about lane discipline I’m not clear.

Simple, truck B should of eased of the gas and slipped in behind the car, so what if he chooses to sit at 40mph in lane one it his choice, he doesnt have to go out into 2/3 for one junction, no truck driver have the right to bully other road users I think that reporting him to the police is the correct thing to of done he is using a 44t vehicle to scare other road users.

Keep us updated on your plight.

discoman:
he is using a 44t vehicle to scare other road users.

Strange how they always have time to check the tax disc :laughing:

Ian G:

discoman:
he is using a 44t vehicle to scare other road users.

Strange how they always have time to check the tax disc :laughing:

lol, I am an ex truck driver but seriously to use a truck to scare another road user who is not doing anything wrong is bullcrap, the guy has every right to use the lane dare I suggest that trucker B should of read the road better, but then again was probs annoyed due to the fact he spilt his coffee on his lappy, hot noodles on his lap and map flew out the window whilst over taking so I can understand why he was annoyed lol

Hiya …how did the lorry driver know the car was’nt in limp mode, 50 was the max it would do■■?
this is something thats going to start happening. people will try to get home whatever, i had a mate
who drove from Conway to Chester at 30 mph(just to get home) he got the car into the garge
(under warrantee) to get it fixed… the problem was a side light out.
this car driver just did’nt want to sit about at 9pm on a sunday, so sat with the slow mode to get home.
tell the fleet manager you stayed with the flow. why go into a faster lane then miss your juction.
it happens, i’ve done it…with a lorry…ive heard plenty of truck drivers moan about cars going into
the 3 lane for a couple of hundred yards then cut back, you stayed with the flow and they’re still moaning.

Now why did i retire early ■■?.
John

FM was cool about this today.

Thanked me for analysing (well you guys did!) the situation and taking the learning point re pulling onto Mway near / in a vehicles blind spot.

Aked me did I want to take it any further - I said no I’ll not loose sleep, I’ll just move on.

His reply "well that was my fleet car son and I do want to take it further. Can you contact PC ■■ on yyyy ■■■ zzzz to rrange to give your witness statement!

Could someone remove lorry brand from the original posts or can I do it?