Have you heard any more, Jonny?
I’ve not heard anything more from T&D but they told me that it should be in the magazine next month for januarys issue.
I have also been in touch with another trucking magazine, who are giving me the opportunity to write about a local haulage company up the road from me (Plasmor) but unfortunately I can’t write the article until I have had the interview with the transport manager (Which is in about a week or so!!) Also in another thread I mentioned that I won a competition with my photography work well I came second 
but it cheered up my day 
Cheers
Jonny 
That’s good news then! Arranging and completing interviews is what takes the time and makes feature work pay the way it does - I’ve just spent several solid days and a good few more in snatched minutes here and there setting up and interviewing for a CM piece, and it was a relief when the material finally all came together. Writing it up’s the easy bit. 
I trust you will be getting paid for the Plasmor article?
Lucy:
That’s good news then! Arranging and completing interviews is what takes the time and makes feature work pay the way it does - I’ve just spent several solid days and a good few more in snatched minutes here and there setting up and interviewing for a CM piece, and it was a relief when the material finally all came together. Writing it up’s the easy bit.I trust you will be getting paid for the Plasmor article?
I hope so 
that’s if the article is publishable of course but the bloke I asked about it said he couldn’t give me a price to pay me for the article because he doesn’t know how good i am (Which is understandable ) and he’s been as good as gold even saying if i need a hand writing the article up if i get stuck with it to just send an email to him and he’ll help me the best way possible. And strangely enough the technique he’s taught me is the 5 W’s technique whether you use it or not I don’t know but it’s helped me to get a questionnaire together it’s just a case of waiting and seeing what comes together
Cheers
Jonny
Right folks I’m here again in a bit of a dialema as you all know that I did a diary on my trip out with dad and had seen above 1500 views on that thread. I emailed the editor of T&D with an article that I wrote to see if it would be any good, but the head editor is away on his jollies by the sounds of things so I emailed the co-editor. He replied to me saying he would run a page in truckstuff but would mean having to cut my article down to a couple hundered words and to send about 9 or 10 of my best images to him and he did note that they don’t pay people for stuff that gets put in the truckstuff page (Even though I don’t care if I get paid or not to be quite honest!!)
Now I’m not wanting to blow my own trumpet but I really wanted to have an article in T&D as it’s not something that’s ever been done before with the view from the passenger seat and I do think that the article I wrote was magazine material. It isn’t about the money for me that isn’t the reason I want to have an article in the mag the soul reason being that I just want to be recognised for my work 
So the question being what do I do?
Do I ■■■■ it up and say yes go ahead with it and cut down my article which runs across about 3 pages in length minus pictures to a couple hundred words and 9 to 10 pictures (Assuming that they use that many)
or
Do I stick it out and tell him that I will wait until the main editor comes back to scan through when he gets back from his jollies in 2 weeks and hope that he see’s potential in the article.
Again I must stress I’m not after any money, I stated that in my original email that I am not after any money, job or anything like that. All I’m really after is to become an established photographer to be recognised for what I do best taking pictures of trucks. Gutted is not the word how I’m feeling right now, just haven’t a clue what to do. Any opinions count. And yes you can call me the kid chucking his teddies out of the pram because I do think it would be a good piece for the magazine and I do think they’re throwing away a really good opportunity. But hey what do I know just a kid 
Cheers
Jonny
Jonny, id submit the whole article and pics, tell them to draft up the article and show you the pics there going to use. Let them email it to you to see if you like what they have edited it down . Id make sure Prestons are ok with it too, just out of courtesy.
True I could do that but again I would have to wait for the main editor to come back as it was the co-editor who made the suggestion on it. The next thing on my list is to make sure that Prestons know about it but I want to know that the article is going to be published first before I do anything. It’s all just a waiting game for now to see what is said from the main editor.
Cheers
Jonny
Try telling them you want paid for it as well.
You are taking paid work away from a professional writer, journalist or photographer just because you want to see your pics in a magazine and brag to your mates.
A bit like someone wanting to be a driver so will do the driving for free just to get recognised.
Don’t do anything for nowt, you will never survive as a driver or a photographer.
Your work is worth something, much more than just a credit!
And you have no chance of seeing what they crop of your article before publishing, you will learn that.
Same as he said.You could GIVE your labour or talent to a charity, but not to a commercial organisation.
I disagree. If its the first time you have done anything like this then I suggest you let them do exactly as they wish with it.
You can then at least use it to work for you in any future work that you submit. Be it with them or elsewhere.
First rung of the ladder
Dico
Dico:
I disagree. If its the first time you have done anything like this then I suggest you let them do exactly as they wish with it.
You can then at least use it to work for you in any future work that you submit. Be it with them or elsewhere.
First rung of the ladderDico
+1
Magazines have to cater to lots of readers tastes, they are in business to sell magazines and ultimately advertising space, one begets the other.
You do have alternatives,
try another magazine.
wait till the editor comes back.
let them use what they require.
find a publisher and sell the magazine yourself.
There are a lot of quality photographers out there. I know, because I use them in the motorcycle advertising for the club.
I would wait until the man editor is back and try trucking. I would imagine a magazines contents would largely be decided a number of months in advance and it would be better to see it all in print and possibly get a few quid from it.
Well I’ve just sent off the pictures and more or less told them to get on with it. Lesson learnt I suppose, I’ll be going with my uncle this month hopefully on my half term so happy days
Cheers
Jonny
Did you speak to Chris Turner? If so then go with what he said, he’s been around on T&D forever, he knows what makes the magazine tick
I agree with you, that was good enough to go into a magazine (but don’t let it go to your head young man 
)
bigtruck:
Dico:
I disagree. If its the first time you have done anything like this then I suggest you let them do exactly as they wish with it.
You can then at least use it to work for you in any future work that you submit. Be it with them or elsewhere.
First rung of the ladderDico
+1
What he says, you do take some good photos and your diarys are interesting , they are one of the few I
have read to the end , interesting reading without the normal high content of sign posts posted by some
diary writers.
newmercman:
Did you speak to Chris Turner? If so then go with what he said, he’s been around on T&D forever, he knows what makes the magazine tickI agree with you, that was good enough to go into a magazine (but don’t let it go to your head young man
Indeed I did talk to chris turner I thought it would be something he would be interested in as I emailed the old editor of t&d will shiers by mistake (his name was still on the website) and he said it sounded like a fantastic idea so it was a case of well he thought it sounded like a fab idea why wouldn’t another editor think of it. Also it was early morning so I wasn’t in the best of moods when I replied to the email 
But I’ve just sent the pics that I thought were the best pictures and asked to see the finished written work afterwards. And don’t worry I won’t let it go to my head It’s nice to see someone else who likes my work
Hopefully one day I will have a full article in a magazine. Wouldn’t mind starting my own but I wouldn’t know where to start Ah well Maybe one day!
Cheers
Jonny
Suffolk ReeferBoy:
bigtruck:
Dico:
I disagree. If its the first time you have done anything like this then I suggest you let them do exactly as they wish with it.
You can then at least use it to work for you in any future work that you submit. Be it with them or elsewhere.
First rung of the ladderDico
+1
What he says, you do take some good photos and your diarys are interesting , they are one of the few I
have read to the end , interesting reading without the normal high content of sign posts posted by some
diary writers.
I’m glad you enjoy them! It won’t be long before another diary will be up I know that much so far and I’m glad the diaries are interesting to you.
Cheers
Jonny
OTSS:
Try telling them you want paid for it as well.You are taking paid work away from a professional writer, journalist or photographer just because you want to see your pics in a magazine and brag to your mates.
A bit like someone wanting to be a driver so will do the driving for free just to get recognised.
I agree with the bit about being paid for it. As for taking work away from a ‘proffesional writer,journalist or photographer’ , have you seen how many come here and ask stuff?
I mean, i’m sure someone is a brilliant writer, but how good is his article gonna be when he comes here and asks…“hey, do you guys have any problems parking overnight, lack of spaces, getting food and showers? I’d be interested to hear your experiences?”
Although don’t mention photographs as we have a prima donna photographer here who’s liable to kick off at any minute !!!
I think the days of ‘proffesional journalist/reporters’ are numbered as more people identify with a more regular speak blog type affair. And lets face it, how some of them get paid for it is beyond me.
What the OP is gonna do i’ve no idea, sell out, sell yourself short,sit it out,give it up, compromise, who knows !
I didn’t read the bit when he said it would be something I could brag to my mates about, I couldn’t give a toss if my mates cared or not to be honest. I want to become an established photographer known for what I do best, it’s not a crime to have ambition as to become an established photographer at the age of 18 would be an achievement especially seeing as I’m still at college studying photography Yes then I would have bragging rights but I don’t brag about my work I just share it to those who are interested.
It’s all about achieving for me, not the money. Yes being paid for my work would be great but it’s not about the money and it’s not as if I’m asking to have my work in the mag every month I was asking for 1 article not the end of the universe I’m not wanting to take money away from anybody and if it meant the reporter got paid for me taking up his article space then so be it I couldn’t care less i’d be happy for the article and I’m sure they would be happy being paid for doing F.A
I enjoy writing up my photo diaries it’s not often I get to do them a lately with my college work load being always full so fitting things like this in isn’t easy. But when I got the chance to do the diary with my Dad I took it with both hands and in all fairness my Dad could then see me at work for a change instead of the other way around. And I wouldn’t class myself as a professional journalist or reporter, I’d class myself as a pain in the arse teenager who does the odd good deed now and again doing some interesting work that I love to share with everyone because it’s nice to see what people think of my work because I can see people enjoy the work and those who give constructive criticism I could learn from it to make my next photo shoot better like when I was told to take my photos at more than one level at first I was unsure but now I swear by it!
The only time I have asked questions on here for my photography work is to get other peoples opinions as to get evidence for my research as it’s apart of the mark scheme with college to make sure you have your research. No doubt I will be asking again in the near future, you will find I have never written any diary from questions asked on here just my own experiences and knowledge.
I’ve sent my pictures in by the way, they may use them. They may not. At least I’ve given it a shot I wouldn’t know unless I try would I ? I am in the process of trying out a new idea that I have which may or may not work I haven’t a clue. But all I know is I’m not going to be sat around thinking ‘what if’ because it’s pointless being like that. Like I said, I’ve put it down to experience and I’m learning from it all I know is I’m not going to give up at the first hurdle because I may as well have quit before I even started
Cheers
Jonny