Simple question, who has, and who hasn’t implemented it? And whose rules do I follow?
I’m a British licence holder, in a Belgian truck, and spend most of my time in Germany.
Are the precise rules Euro wide? Or do they differ in each country? And do I follow the rules of the country I’m in? The one my licence is from? Or the one my employer is in?
allikat:
Simple question, who has, and who hasn’t implemented it? And whose rules do I follow?
I’m a British licence holder, in a Belgian truck, and spend most of my time in Germany.
Are the precise rules Euro wide? Or do they differ in each country? And do I follow the rules of the country I’m in? The one my licence is from? Or the one my employer is in?
Hi Allikat, That’s a cracker of a question and one that I hadn’t thought of…
I’ll be brave and await the answer whilst not offering an opinion. 
That’s cos I’ve no idea. 
Some wiser people than myself will be along soon, but watch out for ROG ‘9 lives’, cos he now wears a nuke proof flack jacket under his hi-viz. 
dieseldave:
I’m not losing one of them over this 
But I might spend some time trawling the internet to try and find out - when I feel like it…
PS - it also begs the question - do all the DRIVER CPCs come in at the same time across the EU 
This might mean yet another e-mail to me MP… 
ROG:
dieseldave:
I’m not losing one of them over this
I don’t blame you mate, it just shows what a cracker of a question it is. 
I’d suggest that the space below might be reserved for geebee45…
Or somebody very brave indeed.
allikat:
Are the precise rules Euro wide?
Yes, just like the tachograph rules, the WTD is a EU creation. I could be wrong on this but it was due to the UK mainley kicking off about the ‘inflexible’ WTD that we got the Road Transport WTD for mobile workers.
I’ll out my head on the block…
allikat:
Simple question, who has, and who hasn’t implemented it? And whose rules do I follow?
EU directive 2002/15/EC
"Article 14
Final provisions
1.
Member States shall adopt the laws, regulations and
administrative provisions necessary to comply with this
Directive by 23 March 2005 or shall ensure by that date that
the two sides of industry have established the necessary meas-
ures by agreement, the Member States being obliged to take
any steps to allow them to be able at any time to guarantee the
results required by this Directive.
When Member States adopt the measures referred to in the first
subparagraph, they shall contain a reference to this Directive or
shall be accompanied by such reference on the occasion of
their official publication. The methods of making such refer-
ence shall be laid down by Member States."
allikat:
I’m a British licence holder, in a Belgian truck, and spend most of my time in Germany.
Those details are irrelivant in ths case
allikat:
Are the precise rules Euro wide?
Yes
allikat:
Or do they differ in each country?
No
allikat:
And do I follow the rules of the country I’m in?
Yes
allikat:
The one my licence is from?
Yes
allikat:
Or the one my employer is in?
Yes
Ta Max.
Official Journal of the European Communities
23.3.2002
L 80/38Article 4
Maximum weekly working time
Member States shall take the measures necessary to ensure that:
(a) the average weekly working time may not exceed 48 hours.
The maximum weekly working time may be extended to
60 hours only if, over four months, an average of 48 hours
a week is not exceeded. The fourth and fifth subparagraphs
of Article 6(1) of Regulation (EEC) No 3820/85 or, where
necessary, the fourth subparagraph of Article 6(1) of the
AETRAgreement shall take precedence over this Directive,
in so far as the drivers concerned do not exceed an average
working time of 48 hours a week over four months;
(b) working time for different employers is the sum of the
working hours. The employer shall ask the mobile worker
concerned in writing for an account of time worked for
another employer. The mobile worker shall provide such
information in writing.
Article 5
Breaks
1.
Member States shall take the measures necessary to
ensure that, without prejudice to the level of protection
provided by Regulation (EEC) No 3820/85 or, failing that, by
the AETRAgreement, persons performing mobile road trans-
port activities, without prejudice to Article 2(1), in no circum-
stances work for more than six consecutive hours without a
break. Working time shall be interrupted by a break of at least
30 minutes, if working hours total between six and nine hours,
and of at least 45 minutes, if working hours total more than
nine hours.
2.
Breaks may be subdivided into periods of at least 15
minutes each.
So the 48 hour working week is euro wide, along with the breaks, ta.
With the proviso of course that some Member States apply it more than others
macplaxton:
With the proviso of course that some Member States apply it more than others
There is an ex-pat who resides and drives LGVs in Spain on here who said “what is WTD?” 
- according to him, the Spanish don’t know what it is…
ROG:
There is an ex-pat who resides and drives LGVs in Spain on here who said “what is WTD?”
Hi ROG, That might be because it has different initials or an entirely different title in Spanish… (Maybe.)
…and I’d imagine that the initials would be different in each and every other foreign language too.
when one is busy, and one turns down work so as not to exceed the 48 hour week, will one be compensated when there is not enough work to do 48 hour,s i am thinking of the job lay off,s ect that are going on now
fuse:
when one is busy, and one turns down work so as not to exceed the 48 hour week, will one be compensated when there is not enough work to do 48 hour,s i am thinking of the job lay off,s ect that are going on now
One doesn’t have to turn down work so as not to exceed the 48 hour week, because the 48 hours per week bit is an average over the reference period of 17 or 26 weeks (depending on what’s been agreed). This hopefully will work in quite nicely with when there isn’t enough work to do a 48 hour week.
The rule about maximum ‘working hours’ in a week states that 60 hours is the maximum.
One hasn’t forgotten that POA and break don’t count towards working time, has one !
There is no reference to compensation for time off due to WTD compliance requirements, as far as I know.