What do we have in common with Iran?

Carryfast:
Who the zb cares what they do amongst each other they are zb savages and they’ll always be zb savages.However I think that Gadaffi was the lesser of all the evils.

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Well he had great taste in hats :smiley:

switchlogic:
Is anyone else happy being in their western media indoctrinated bubble of ignorance? Because I am. :slight_smile:

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I like bubbles.

Its not ‘we’ who got to war with countries with large deposits of oil, its big business who controls governments who control oil supplies to us who go to war with countries with large deposits of oil. The yanks are the biggest culprits here, no better than the ■■■■ regime in my opinion, but they get others to do their dirty work for them. Control the oil and you control the world. As for Israel… well, circumcision should be done at neck level. THEY ARE THE BIGGEST THREAT TO PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST

raymundo:
Its not ‘we’ who got to war with countries with large deposits of oil, its big business who controls governments who control oil supplies to us who go to war with countries with large deposits of oil. The yanks are the biggest culprits here, no better than the ■■■■ regime in my opinion, but they get others to do their dirty work for them. Control the oil and you control the world. As for Israel… well, circumcision should be done at neck level. THEY ARE THE BIGGEST THREAT TO PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST

If it’s the yanks who are all about oil and no better than nazis they wouldn’t have bothered to help us beat the Germans in WW2 considering the Germans were no real direct threat to them and they would have followed my idea of helping the Israelis beat the Arabs properly in 1973 thereby taking control of the oil fields instead of allowing OPEC to cut off supplies to America and us for helping to arm Israel.

However the facts show that it was Israel that was invaded and subjected to Arab aggression in 1967 and 1973 by the Russian armed Arabs not the American and British armed Israelis who attacked the zb Arabs.As I’ve said our big mistake was in not helping them to beat the zb Arab zb’s properly and really taking back control of the oil fields and control of the Arab sates and then going to war with Iran when the Shah was deposed and how is it that America has pulled out of Iraq and given control of the country back instead of just staying there and taking the place for every barrel of oil it’s got without paying the Arab zb’s a cent for it :question: :question: .

switchlogic:
Is anyone else happy being in their western media indoctrinated bubble of ignorance? Because I am. :slight_smile:

Rabid rants about the Daily Mail conveniently forgotten. :open_mouth: :confused: :unamused: :grimacing:

pavaroti:

switchlogic:
Is anyone else happy being in their western media indoctrinated bubble of ignorance? Because I am. :slight_smile:

Rabid rants about the Daily Mail conveniently forgotten. :open_mouth: :confused: :unamused: :grimacing:

Missed my point a bit there old chap

Five pages in we have had god bless America and OPEC think thatcher might have been in there. Have we had 1970s inflation yet. Trucknets number 1 keyboard warriors doesn’t change just waiting for a Bedford two stroke to turn up.

My grandad served in Palestine in 1948 and his views on Jews after what he saw made old adolf seem moderate. It’s easy for the keyboard warriors to sit here and say shoot this one bomb these people but there not the ones doing it.

kr79:
Five pages in we have had god bless America and OPEC think thatcher might have been in there. Have we had 1970s inflation yet. Trucknets number 1 keyboard warriors doesn’t change just waiting for a Bedford two stroke to turn up.

My grandad served in Palestine in 1948 and his views on Jews after what he saw made old adolf seem moderate. It’s easy for the keyboard warriors to sit here and say shoot this one bomb these people but there not the ones doing it.

Considering that by that time those ‘Jews’ probably didn’t think they had much left to lose and had seen enough themselves to have been up for fighting anyone,including the British,who wanted to kill even more of them than the Germans had already done,it’s not surprising that your Grandad was’nt happy about being one of those on the wrong end of that when the British government decided to send him and his mates out there to fight them.

For every one like your grandad there were plenty of others who’d been shipped out there direct from the battlefields of europe who’d seen and heard enough first hand to know why the Israelis were fighting for their own homeland and,unluckily for them,weren’t going to let the British government stop them.My own dad would have been one of them if he’d not been demobbed instead of being shipped out of Italy to Palestine like a lot of his mates were.Just like him most of them didn’t actually want to fight with the Israelis and actually supported what they were trying to do and got killed by those they didn’t even want to fight with after surviving WW2.That’s the facts of what happened not your and your grandad’s twisted view of it probably all based on not having had the experience of not fighting in Europe first.

One of the questions is,if America is supposed to be run by Jews for Jews,why the zb didn’t America order all of West Germany to be handed to what remained of Europe’s Jewish population and deport all of the West Germans to East Germany to be put under Russian rule :question: . :imp:

The fact is West Germany got a better deal out of losing WW2 than both us and Europe’s Jewish population and I’m still waiting for an answer to the question of which side do you and those who seem to be so supportive of the Arab cause think was right during the 1967 and 1973 Arab Israeli wars :question: .Considering by that time Britain had long since recognised Israel’s right to exist as a country and what do you think the result would have been then or now if Israel were to be disarmed and remained unarmed all because a load of Arab supporting Brits think that it’s the Arabs in the region who are not a threat to peace in the region but the Israelis are. :unamused: :unamused: :imp:

I want the Ayatolla’s head cloth. I reckon I’d look quite fetching in it!

My grandad was a career soilder in the army he was slightly to young to serve in ww2 he joined up in 1946 and left in 1969 his older brothers all served in ww2 and one fought against Franco in Spain he was no left wing appeaser. His views were based on personal experince not what he was told or read in books and he reckoned Arabs were pretty mad too.
Me personally I think the Arabs and israellis are as bad as each other.
What other reason than the Jewish lobby in America been sopowerful and wealthy and the thought of having a foothold in a oil rich volatile part of the world would the USA support israel.

I always thought yassar arrafats tea towel on the head look was much more stylish than the Jewish curly sideburns look :smiley:

kr79:
My grandad was a career soilder in the army he was slightly to young to serve in ww2 he joined up in 1946 and left in 1969 his older brothers all served in ww2 and one fought against Franco in Spain he was no left wing appeaser. His views were based on personal experince not what he was told or read in books and he reckoned Arabs were pretty mad too.
Me personally I think the Arabs and israellis are as bad as each other.
What other reason than the Jewish lobby in America been sopowerful and wealthy and the thought of having a foothold in a oil rich volatile part of the world would the USA support israel.

I always thought yassar arrafats tea towel on the head look was much more stylish than the Jewish curly sideburns look :smiley:

My Uncle served two full terms in the British Army and the Royal Air Force, he then went onto be a civilian RAF man at Cowden Bombing Range. He served as a boy & adult soldier, Trained at Sarum went to Palestine, Aden, Cyprus, Singapore, Sharjah, Borneo, Brunei and many other places in the Middle East.

He always said the Arabs were affected by the sun, but the Israelis were far more dangerous. I would sooner listen to my family who had been there and seen it, than to what I have read on a lorry drivers forum.

My grandad had a similar service record to that and said something along them lines but in a more robust form of language and although he never said a lot I’d trust his opinion over the nearly man of British transport spouting Wikipedia every five minutes.

There’s only one bit of headgear to bear an Ayatolla head cloth, Gadaffi’s hat. I’d kill a distant relative for that hat. I wonder where it is now.

switchlogic:
There’s only one bit of headgear to bear an Ayatolla head cloth, Gadaffi’s hat. I’d kill a distant relative for that hat. I wonder where it is now.

try ebay… :laughing:

Gadaffi was the gok wan of the Arab world.
Funny how all the mad dictators love a bit of blinged up clobber. Gadaffi, idi Amin, hitler,Mussolini all mental but great clothes.

kr79:
My grandad was a career soilder in the army he was slightly to young to serve in ww2 he joined up in 1946 and left in 1969 his older brothers all served in ww2 and one fought against Franco in Spain he was no left wing appeaser. His views were based on personal experince not what he was told or read in books and he reckoned Arabs were pretty mad too.
Me personally I think the Arabs and israellis are as bad as each other.
What other reason than the Jewish lobby in America been sopowerful and wealthy and the thought of having a foothold in a oil rich volatile part of the world would the USA support israel.

I always thought yassar arrafats tea towel on the head look was much more stylish than the Jewish curly sideburns look :smiley:

The American support of Israel had zb all to do with oil or any so called ‘Jewish Lobby’ in America.As I’ve said if America was ruled by Jews there’s no way that the Jews would have ever needed to zb off to a zb piece of desert and then make it usable to live in and for farming, (which is more than the Arabs ever bothered to do with it),while also not going around killing each other for fun like the Arabs do,when America could have just given them West Germany instead and chucked all the Germans out to live in East Germany where the Russians were waiting for the zb’s.If America and us had then wanted to take all the oil for ourselves from the zb Arabs we had enough military muscle to have done it anyway.

However you’ve still not answered the question as to who was right and who was wrong in the case of the 1967 and 1973 Arab/Israeli wars considering the fact that by that time Israel had been recognised as a sovereign state with as much right to exist as zb Egypt,Jordan,Syria and Iraq all of which provided a lot more living space for the Arabs to live in peace amongst their Arab ‘brothers’,‘if’ that’s what they want to do,without bothering a few Jews living in a small corner of their own,which they’ve got historical origins in anyway,and which they’d carved out of the desert by their own efforts not those of the zb Arabs’,having been persecuted and massacred,almost to the point of extinction in Europe,not long before.

I doubt that the Israelis give a zb what you personally think,about them being as bad as a load of savages who are usually busy killing each other when they’re not all united in killing Jews instead,because the Israelis have got history,to prove who’s right and who’s wrong,on their side.Which is why I say that we should have helped them in 1967 and 1973 to defeat the Arabs properly.In which case the interests of the Middle East and ours would have been far more secure militarily and financially with the Middle East under similar rule as it was before WW2 in which we really did run the place and the oil fields (which we’d found and drilled for not the zb Arabs) for our own interests not those of a bunch of camel driving savages with tea towels on their heads. :bulb: :imp:

It’s not surprising though that none of that would be acceptable to a pc country like Britain now especially it’s localised Arab/Asian majorities. :imp: :unamused:

Wheel Nut:
He always said the Arabs were affected by the sun, but the Israelis were far more dangerous.

Not unless you’re a Syrian sitting in a T 55 trying to invade Israel and suddenly find an Israeli Centurion in front of you or you’re an Arab pilot flying a MIG trying to attack Israel when an Israeli Phantom catches you. :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp: :smiley:

Sounds a plan lets carry on and retake India and half of Africa too bloddy savages the lot of them. :smiley: :smiley:
You was wasted as a night trunker you could solve every problem in the world revolutionised transport with your fleet of Bedfords.

kr79:
Sounds a plan lets carry on and retake India and half of Africa too bloddy savages the lot of them. :smiley: :smiley:
You was wasted as a night trunker you could solve every problem in the world revolutionised transport with your fleet of Bedfords.

I thought he may have made a decent politician too. I just read that last rant about oil and Germany and haven’t a clue what he is trying to say, a lack of full stops when he quotes from wikipedia and tries to use his own words.