For FS wake up. 
Solly:
For FS wake up.
That’s what the British and US governments need to do before those Iranian zb’s get the capability to take out someone else instead. 
Carryfast:
Solly:
For FS wake up.
Ahhhhh! I see.
We are allowed to “Take out” everyone else - but if the opposition have the capability to hit back - THAT AINT FAIR■■? Right■■? FFS
Solly:
Carryfast:
Solly:
For FS wake up.
Ahhhhh! I see.
We are allowed to “Take out” everyone else - but if the opposition have the capability to hit back - THAT AINT FAIR■■? Right■■? FFS
Why the zb would we want to give a bunch of nutters who hate us and want to kill us the chance to do it if we have the capability to wipe them out first before they can do it.
Carryfast:
Solly:
Carryfast:
Solly:
For FS wake up.
Ahhhhh! I see.
We are allowed to “Take out” everyone else - but if the opposition have the capability to hit back - THAT AINT FAIR■■? Right■■? FFS
Why the zb would we want to give a bunch of nutters who hate us and want to kill us the chance to do it if we have the capability to wipe them out first before they can do it.
You do give a ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Harry Truman, Neville Chamberlain! get on the right zb planet. I am accused of living in the past, yet it is you who come out with this obsolete crap about America being the best, the old US technology and you openly support the KKK but argue against the Nazis.
As for the oil, the EU has already agreed to stop buying oil from Iran, they were sending 75000 barrels a day to France until now, there is more being leaked into the Mexican Gulf every day by BP and the Kurds are nicking the same amount from Iran. It is literally a drop in the ocean.
Ermmm! What?
Wheel Nut:
Harry Truman, Neville Chamberlain! get on the right zb planet. I am accused of living in the past, yet it is you who come out with this obsolete crap about America being the best, the old US technology and you openly support the KKK but argue against the Nazis.As for the oil, the EU has already agreed to stop buying oil from Iran, they were sending 75000 barrels a day to France until now, there is more being leaked into the Mexican Gulf every day by BP and the Kurds are nicking the same amount from Iran. It is literally a drop in the ocean.
I don’t think I’ve ever said that I ‘support’ the KKK.I do agree with the idea that it’s not a good idea to integrate different ethnic groups and cultures just like UN and British policy in Yugoslavia and just like the Native American Indian groups feel/felt about having been forced to integrate into colonial American society and many Asian groups themselves,rightly feel here in relation to integration with white indigenous culture.However it seems that those same lot,who have no problem with that,then suddenly want to change the goalposts to suit themsleves when white indigenous groups ask for the same in respect of wanting to keep their culture seperate from others and don’t wish to integrate.
However that’s not the same thing as saying let’s wipe out anyone who is different to us just based on racial/cultural differences which was Hitler’s plan and which is also zb Iran’s plan too. 
Truman’s dealing with Japan to end WW2 and Kennedy’s dealing with Russia during the Cuban Missile Crisis v the way that zb Obama is dealing with the homicidal maniac Iranians no contest.As I said why is it the Iran isn’t zbing themselves because if it had been either of those two they would have been.
Solly:
Carryfast:
Solly:
Carryfast:
Solly:
For FS wake up.
Ahhhhh! I see.
We are allowed to “Take out” everyone else - but if the opposition have the capability to hit back - THAT AINT FAIR■■? Right■■? FFS
Why the zb would we want to give a bunch of nutters who hate us and want to kill us the chance to do it if we have the capability to wipe them out first before they can do it.
You do give a ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I don’t think that there’d be many arguments with that in Israel at the moment.
We have a lot in common with Iran
We are both state sponsors of terrorism
To take just one example, the British SAS were training and supporting the Khmer rouge in Cambodia
prisonplanet.com/remember-th … rouge.html
So when Iran sends weapons and support to hezbolla and Hamas they are only doing what western states have done all over the world
Happens again and again - contras in Nicaragua, USA helping bin laden fight the Russians etc etc
But of course this does make Iran a threat to all of us, because there clearly not on our side
Solly:
Carryfast:
Solly:
Sorry - but we have nothing in common with Iran - apart from the fact that they want to live - so do we.Iran wants to live in just the same way that the Germans wanted to live,and wanted everyone else to live,under their and Hitler’s terms.
Do you mean in the same way as the British Empire did - back in the day - and the US want to do today?
I’m sure most Iranians are the same as us and couldn’t care less wether we are a bunch of murdering infidels and are more worried about paying the bills or will there recycled hillman hunter pass its mot. Same as most Germans between 1933 and 1945 wasn’t goose stepping round the living room believing everything that camp Charlie Chaplin lookalike said.
It’s like back in the day it was probally hard for some poor soul living with his wife and 5 kids in some slum tennament in the east end to marvel in the glory of the British empire.
At the end of the day it doesn’t matter a bit us mere mortals wether in the uk America Iran or china can’t change a thing. Look at our current Tory ministers its back to the old style Tory Oxbridge elite at least Thatcher and some of her ministers wasn’t all paid up members of the aristocrat club.
Come on people stop arguing with Carryfast. He’s just an old man with too much time on his hands hunched over his computer in his pants thinking he knows everything because he read it on Wikipedia. He’s the very definition of a keyboard warrior with his hate filled crap. I imagine he’ll be off out soon for his weekly outing to Aldi in his Honda Jazz/Toyata Yaris to stock up on ready meals.
Cue a rant from him about the American south, Nazis, Mugabe and anything else that’s totally unrelated to anything I actually said.
Don’t you know he has a jag because he is a real man. According to him I’m a ■■■■ because I’m not a country and western wild west man. He recons brockback mountain was a film to discredit the south.
switchlogic:
Come on people stop arguing with Carryfast. He’s just an old man with too much time on his hands hunched over his computer in his pants thinking he knows everything because he read it on Wikipedia. He’s the very definition of a keyboard warrior with his hate filled crap. I imagine he’ll be off out soon for his weekly outing to Aldi in his Honda Jazz/Toyata Yaris to stock up on ready meals.Cue a rant from him about the American south, Nazis, Mugabe and anything else that’s totally unrelated to anything I actually said.
Your nothing but a big bully. 
Like a lot of bullys you have a loyal army of fans, hanging on your every word. Im not fooled by you though. Who would of thought a Guardian reading/spouting liberal would be a trucking forums most popular member.
manalishi:
Its incredible how we think we have any angle on how world affairs are actually run.The internet has so many so called conspiracy theorists or truthers trying to warn us all to what is actually going on as opposed to what we are manipulated to see.I blame David Icke with his shape shifting lizard comments which although were taken out of context ,has muddied the waters so that anything related to elites controlling world events etc is just shunted into the sidings and disregarded.I recommend the website Educate Yourself for exposing many of the reasons why the world is in the state it is currently in and it goes along the lines of the fact that the world has been controlled and manipulated by a group of ancient bloodline families from the dawn of time who have arranged world events such as wars and economic meltdowns to further their statospheric wealth and power as well as keeping populations to a ‘manageable’ level since the dawn of time.
The major bloodline families include the Astors,Du ponts,Bush,Rockefellers and the biggest beasts in the jungle are without doubt ; the Rothschilds who are the architects,with the aid of Britain,of the state of Israel which is the essentially the tail that wags the dog of good old uncle sam and the Zionist creatures of Washington.Any mention of this of course is to risk the wrath of the Jewish people who themselves are hoodwinked by the fascist agenda and world ■■■■■■■■■■ plans of the elite families who hide in the shadows while so called nations play out the chess game of politics on their behest ;ably assisted by the media propoganda arms of their empires by freemasonic placemen such as Rupert Murdoch specifically for this very purpose.
The present so called ‘elite’ who run the game are beginning to unravel at the moment and see the possibillity of the prospect of a new raising of awareness of the worlds populace as a distinct threat to their power base therefore are pulling out all the stops to generate world crisis and war as they have always done to keep their filthy hands on the levers of power.This current financial crisis has had the effect of starting people to form alliances and protest groups that are not going to just go away.I’ts not like the hippie movement of the sixties anymore,the cat is out of the bag and the old world order of doing things is daily being revealed for the evil it always has been.I have been out of the driving game for a long while now after 15 years of tramping and had reached a point of exhaustion,depression after witnessing a series of road fatalities that I had to bale out and recover, which often in these situations results in a change of mindset due to the endless ammounts of time available to pursue the internet. I can honestly say that the information at peoples disposal,if you find the right links,is life changing and mind blowing far in excess of anything Steven King could dream up in his paperbacks.The powers that be have shaped our world since the dawn of time and by a combination of ritualistic/occult manipulation and financial dealings on a collosal scale, have fashioned the world in their own diabolical image.
There are imminent threats of severe censorship to the web in the pipeline so it’s a good time to get some serious enlightenment before they get their mitts on it any time soon.
Soz to get heavy on your asses folks but the times are a changin and there are amazing people out in webland to guide us with the right intellectual ammunition for the interesting times ahead.
AT LAST,I thought i was the only one of a few that have read this stuff over the years!!,This is a subject that i am very passionate about and have read a hell of a lot about it…I first heard of The New World Order in 1993 when i was living in South Africa,i used to listen to Radio 702 which was a talk radio,it used to be mentioned all the time,but back then i didn’t really understand it as i was only 18…I am always reading into this stuff on the Internet and its readily available on the net(for now) for those seeking the knowledge of what really goes on in the world…you are’nt gonna find it by watching the BBC or by reading the Daily Mail thats for sure!!
Infowars is another good site as well as watching the Zeitgeist films that are free to watch on the net,Zeitgeist The movie explains religion and the 9/11 attacks and the phony War on Terrorism and Zeitgeist Addendum explains how the money system works and the financial crisis’ of old and new…the collapse of the dollar which has been predicted for many years and is due to happen this year, falkvinge.net/2011/06/17/the-imm … -year-old/ …i could go on all day,but i wont,as a lot of you aren’t intelligent enough to comprehend it and it would take longer than a day 
As for Syria,well the US and UK ARE involved in Syria,they are arming the opposition and are the main cause of all the unrest there as they have been in the apparent ‘Arab Spring’…behind the scenes there are dark forces at work, and with the government controlled media it isn’t mentioned or investigated or hidden behind the ‘national security line’…investigative journalists have been ‘taken out’ by NATO and allies for being in the wrong place at the right time!!
see for yourselves,there is a frightening world outside your little bubble that none of you knew existed,go and explore it.
Slightly unrelated but a good movie to watch is Lord of War…a few years old now but based on actual events and backed by Amnesty International it explains how the arms trade works and how governments make billions selling arms to dubious regimes and governments…most of them being the US,UK and Nato countries.
pavaroti:
Who would of thought a Guardian reading/spouting liberal would be a trucking forums most popular member.
Nice of you to say old chap but there are more popular members than me. Good of you to stand up for Carryfast though. Carry on.
switchlogic:
Come on people stop arguing with Carryfast. He’s just an old man with too much time on his hands hunched over his computer in his pants thinking he knows everything because he read it on Wikipedia. He’s the very definition of a keyboard warrior with his hate filled crap. I imagine he’ll be off out soon for his weekly outing to Aldi in his Honda Jazz/Toyata Yaris to stock up on ready meals.Cue a rant from him about the American south, Nazis, Mugabe and anything else that’s totally unrelated to anything I actually said.
Wasn’t it you who seemed to be in agreement at page 1 that the zb’s hate us and that there’s good reason why they shouldn’t be allowed to obtain nuclear weapons 
.If you’ve changed your mind about that suggest you zb off over there right away and apologise for all of the disparaging remarks about that misunderstood place that have been made about it on here. 
kr79:
Solly:
Carryfast:
Solly:
Sorry - but we have nothing in common with Iran - apart from the fact that they want to live - so do we.Iran wants to live in just the same way that the Germans wanted to live,and wanted everyone else to live,under their and Hitler’s terms.
Do you mean in the same way as the British Empire did - back in the day - and the US want to do today?
I’m sure most Iranians are the same as us and couldn’t care less wether we are a bunch of murdering infidels and are more worried about paying the bills or will there recycled hillman hunter pass its mot. Same as most Germans between 1933 and 1945 wasn’t goose stepping round the living room believing everything that camp Charlie Chaplin lookalike said.
It’s like back in the day it was probally hard for some poor soul living with his wife and 5 kids in some slum tennament in the east end to marvel in the glory of the British empire.
At the end of the day it doesn’t matter a bit us mere mortals wether in the uk America Iran or china can’t change a thing. Look at our current Tory ministers its back to the old style Tory Oxbridge elite at least Thatcher and some of her ministers wasn’t all paid up members of the aristocrat club.
It’s just a shame that you weren’t one of those facing the wrong end of the Germans’ guns during WW2 because you’d have changed your mind pdq about that issue as to wether or not most of the zb Germans at the time supported their zb fuhrer.
At least until the zb’s started losing.
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Come on people stop arguing with Carryfast. He’s just an old man with too much time on his hands hunched over his computer in his pants thinking he knows everything because he read it on Wikipedia. He’s the very definition of a keyboard warrior with his hate filled crap. I imagine he’ll be off out soon for his weekly outing to Aldi in his Honda Jazz/Toyata Yaris to stock up on ready meals.Cue a rant from him about the American south, Nazis, Mugabe and anything else that’s totally unrelated to anything I actually said.
Wasn’t it you who seemed to be in agreement at page 1 that the zb’s hate us and that there’s good reason why they shouldn’t be allowed to obtain nuclear weapons
Get anything nice from Aldi?
So every German was as mad as hitler. Keep taking the tablets son.