Spardo:
Easy Sheets seem like a good idea, they came in long after my tipping days were over. Some tipping jobs were very dangerous,
Salut, David.
they were very dangerous some of them. i didnt like scrap bales unless the bloke on the mag was clued up, a good load was an easy job but sometimes it was a case of open the barn doors and run like ■■■■! as the bales were staked up the back and tumbled off. or the bales were loaded in such a way as they jammed.
i remember once i picked a load of rough b grade scrap up it was wet through, all sharp heavy iron sticking up all over the shop, and was told to sheet it! 2 fingers and a cloud of smoke is what they got!
fitted sheets there another ■■■■ of a job there didnt seem enough leeway at times unless the load was high enough up the body to support it (and you), did you have one of them at all dave? what a polarver to get right on a low load, like clay, balancing in mid air. easysheets seem a good idea to me also, i’d like to try it out !
Mal:
[i didnt like scrap bales unless the bloke on the mag was clued up, a good load was an easy job but sometimes it was a case of open the barn doors and run like [zb]! as the bales were staked up the back and tumbled off. or the bales were loaded in such a way as they jammed.
Been there, done that, felt the terror
fitted sheets there another [zb] of a job there didnt seem enough leeway at times unless the load was high enough up the body to support it (and you), did you have one of them at all dave? what a polarver to get right on a low load, like clay, balancing in mid air. easysheets seem a good idea to me also, i’d like to try it out !
Again, yes, on Bulkliner, we used to load very fine sand from somewhere forget where, but also deliver similar stuff to Fauld(?) I think it was. Reckon that’s down Burton way. On the boxes the sheets had continous rubber cord round the edges, you had to stand in the front and get the 2 corners hooked on if possible. The hooks were about a foot down from the top. Then work backwards hooking every now and then. Finally climb out, hooking the rear corners on, then round the lot with a shunting pole from the ground to complete the job.
I reckon that the age is just about right, I can imagine most 18 year olds would be doing doughnuts in the local supermarket with their 420 megaspace sleeper cab to impress their mates
However the Young Driver Scheme is a very good idea because it allows drivers who are really keen to learn the job from the bottom, it is a structured training from warehouse and loading to workshops and drivers mate before being let loose in a truck. if you get any fines or points during your training you are likely to lose the job and the training as the YTDS scheme is tied to the company who employs you
muckles:
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Are they were the “good old days” it’s all self tippers and easy sheets now. :
What on earth is a ‘self tipper’? Even I’m not old enough to remember getting out and cranking a handle at the side of the chassis - well, I did have a Dinky toy once, that was hard enough
Easy Sheets seem like a good idea, they came in long after my tipping days were over. Some tipping jobs were very dangerous, at Bulkliner we loaded standard opentop containers with Coalite at Bolsover which, due to the lightness of the product, was loaded way above the sides. We didn’t sheet it but patted it down into a nice dome by tightrope walking round the box top with a giant shovel . That was for the road, if we put the box on the train the height had to be kept down a bit but we still had to ballet dance around on top sheeting it.
Salut, David.
Bulkers don’t work like tippers, they are hopper shaped, with a conveyor belt down the centre driven by electric. To stop 25 tonnes of spuds being on the belt in one go they used to put boards down the centre and only leave a little of the belt expossed, as the spuds go down the belt you take the boards away so more of the belt is expossed.
On the self tipper instead of boards covering the belt they have a slighty raised roof shaped cover over the belt which stops all the load landing on the belt at once.
The objective is to stop you walking on the load or being inside the trailer whilst tipping. Not for your safety but to stop you damaging the load of factory machinery when you lose a board down the conveyor.
I suppose unless you’re involved in agricultural haulage you unlikely to come across spud bulkers and I’m doing my best to forget about them.
Fred, that is a good idea. But i do think 18 would be ok under the right training. Maybe so you have to run team(2 drivers) Until 19 or 20. The second driver being much older.
Wheel Nut:
I reckon that the age is just about right, I can imagine most 18 year olds would be doing doughnuts in the local supermarket with their 420 megaspace sleeper cab to impress their mates
you know it malc, i’ll admit, at that age in that motor i’d be doing the same!
Wasnt there a rule once upon a time for psv drivers that they could hold a licence at 18yr old but where limited to a 50 mile zone or have the drugs not worn of yet
fred Kanka:
19 for Van
20 for 7500kg
21 for Rigid
25 for Artics and Bus
I disagree, there are not enough jobs on rigids to go around, unless we were to force people off rigids when they reach 25 so that younger drivers have so much as a small chance of employment. I know from my own experience and that of several others, that Class 2 work is extremely few and far between and the only chance any of us had to actually get a job was to scrape together as much money as possible on the ■■■ bits of Class 2 work we got, and put it all into the Class 1 course.
As for the people who think young drivers are too immature to drive trucks and would behave like boy racers, thats just pathetic, I have yet to meet a driver the same age as myself who behaves in such a way, most are infact a hell of a lot more responsible than your average driver in this 30s or 40s and take their job and level of responsibility very seriously and all this nonsense to the contray just portrays to all that this industry is not a place to go into if you’re a youngster because you’ve being stereotyped before you even begin and no one takes you seriously.
As for the people who think young drivers are too immature to drive trucks and would behave like boy racers, thats just pathetic, I have yet to meet a driver the same age as myself who behaves in such a way,
what? i’d like to come and live where you do robin, the young un s round here are as mad as bleeding ■■■■! are you having us on?
The problem is you don’t realise how immature you are at 18 even 21, until you reach a far older age, (I refuse to give my age, due to the data protection act )
This isn’t to say you can’t take responibility at a young age, many have in the past and we’ve all met those older drivers who shouldn’t be in charge of a wheelbarrow, but you need an age were most have grown up enough to take responsibility for a truck.
As for having problems getting into your chosen career, it isn’t just a problem for truck drivers. Most industries would prefer to take an experienced, slightly older employee than a complete novice. However it isn’r long before you are getting passed over for jobs because you’re to old and experienced.
That is true in most cases. Most young people act stupid and shouldnt be behind the wheel of a two door Renualt car. They drive stupid. But i dont think many people 18-21 want to get into truck driving to race trucks. On top of that dont your trucks top out at like 56mph? Which is an outrage. But still point being not too many people this age want to drive a truck. So the ones that do. and as far as i know there are few of us, would take it serious. But there does have to be a set age and on average 21 is better than 18. But if it wasnt for insurance companies large trucking companies such as Willi Betz would hire 18 and up. Well those are my thoughts for now.
As for the people who think young drivers are too immature to drive trucks and would behave like boy racers, thats just pathetic, I have yet to meet a driver the same age as myself who behaves in such a way,
what? i’d like to come and live where you do robin, the young un s round here are as mad as bleeding ■■■■! are you having us on?
agreed. most of them shouldnt have a licence for anything with more hp than a pushbike
to be fair though Robin, we are talking generally here from what we have seen with our own eyes. we all know that some 18 year olds could handle a truck but the majority couldnt. there are always exceptions to a general rule and you and your mates could fall into that exception. fair play if you do but i can assure you that no one here is having a dig at you personally. look around with your own eyes and see what we mean. take the bloke with the snot green fiesta 1.2 with the ferrari bodykit. would you want him driving a truck■■?
SimonRS2K:
Wasnt there a rule once upon a time for psv drivers that they could hold a licence at 18yr old but where limited to a 50 mile zone or have the drugs not worn of yet
simon
This rule is still in place.
I too have had trouble with the transport industry due to my age.I am now 23 and have held my licence 2 years.
I started driving vans a year ago and came across alot of companies with “over 25” and even “over 30” in their recruiting ads.
I have since found a decent agency who gave me plenty of van work, and since 20th december when I passed, class 2 work too. But even some of their clients turn their noses up as us whipper snappers.
scanny77:
look around with your own eyes and see what we mean. take the bloke with the snot green fiesta 1.2 with the ferrari bodykit. would you want him driving a truck■■?
scanny77:
to be fair though Robin, we are talking generally here from what we have seen with our own eyes. we all know that some 18 year olds could handle a truck but the majority couldnt. there are always exceptions to a general rule and you and your mates could fall into that exception. fair play if you do but i can assure you that no one here is having a dig at you personally. look around with your own eyes and see what we mean. take the bloke with the snot green fiesta 1.2 with the ferrari bodykit. would you want him driving a truck■■?
I’m talking about people my age with a truck licence, ofcourse the majority of people my age, or younger are idiot car drivers, but the majority of 21-25yr olds with truck licences are not, yet we all get lumped into the same category as the fools with done up fiestas and corsa’s who spend all night doing doughnuts in Tesco’s car park.
