We're OK says RHA

Savage competition hits western European truckers

Living on an island has its advantages even in the single market: the UK’s geographical isolation has saved Britons the unhappy fate of a growing number of unemployed European truckers

The English Channel has once again saved the United Kingdom, but this time the threat is not an armed invasion but a horde of eastern European truck drivers. On the other side of the water, savage competition from cutthroat Polish, Romanian and Bulgarian truckers has already driven thousands of western European companies into bankruptcy.

In Denmark alone, there were 8,000 job losses between 2008 and 2010, according to the Nordic road haulage lobby. In Belgium, unions say 2,700 jobs were lost over the same period. Chaotic deregulation and an inability, or unwillingness, to enforce existing laws are behind the sector’s mounting unemployment. Western firms are being decimated even as the overall number of European truckers increases.

In some cases competition is illegal: road haulage firms are abusing poorly written legislation such as the EU’s posting of workers directive. Other truckers simply ignore cabotage rules that restrict their ability to work in a foreign country after they have dropped off their load. “We have called on Kallas to put a stop to all deregulation,” says Roberto Parrillo of the Belgian union CSC Transcom, referring to the European Union transport commissioner Siim Kallas.

Most of the illegal trade would end if governments enforced a European Court of Justice ruling stating that social security costs are incurred in the country from which the trucker sets off, Parrillo tells PublicServiceEurope.com. But enforcing the ruling on the roads of Belgium, which shares a border with four other nations, is not easy. Border crossings were dismantled years ago, meaning there is no natural location, no bottleneck, where enforcement can take place.

“We met with the Belgian government, who said they wanted to clamp down in fiscal and social fraud. We asked them how many inspectors they had, and they said seven,” Parrillo says. The influx of foreign truckers into Belgium is so large that on weekends, while they take their compulsory rest, they form small villages around the Heysel football stadium in Brussels. Often with their wives and children, they cook and sip beer along the side of the adjacent roads.

EU law-makers have focused too much on liberalising service industries and not enough on harmonising labour law, says Søren Larsen, who heads the Brussels office for the Nordic Logistics Association, a group that unites the region’s road haulage companies. “The rules are not sufficiently clear for applying controls,” he says. “The posting of workers directive is difficult to apply”. One in five truck journeys undertaken in Denmark is illegal, Larsen says. At least 10,000 Danish truckers are expected to lose their jobs.

The widespread undercutting of rates has taken place despite restrictions on the employment of Bulgarians and Romanians — two countries that joined the EU in 2007. The restrictions expire at the end of next year, and to make matters more frightening still Kallas is considering a new round of road haulage liberalisation. In a true single market there should be no need for cabotage restrictions at all, the commission believes.

Members of the European Parliament, on the other hand, say the entire sector is now at risk in some countries. “Cabotage must not lead to the complete loss of a whole profession in a member state due to competition on labour conditions and wages as seems to be the risk in Denmark,” three MEPs told Kallas last month.

In the UK, meanwhile, the industry has relatively few complaints. “As an island we are in a better position,” says Peter Cullen, head of international affairs at Britain’s Road Haulage Association. Given that border crossings are in most cases in ports, British officials are not faced with the same enforcement challenges as their mainland European counterparts. “Around 80 per cent of all traffic comes through the roll-on roll-off ports,” says Cullen. “There are lots of controls. Eastern European truckers can come over here but they would be subject to our regulation”. Unlike most of western Europe, the UK is therefore in the unusual position of being satisfied with existing EU rules.

Free competition among EU member states was designed to improve living standards in Europe’s less advanced economies. But competition in the road haulage sector is having the opposite effect: it is driving down wages and reducing employment in the richer western nations. The recession may be the culprit, at least in part. But EU law-makers cannot escape their share of the blame. Even the commission admits that the posting of workers directive needs tidying up. New legislation is underway in Brussels.

“The European parliament is really dragging its feet,” says Jonathan Todd, commission spokesman for employment and social affairs. When the EU institutions start to blame each other, you know that something has gone badly wrong.

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Really :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: Is this muppet related to Orys ■■? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Phew!

So that’s allright then.

Where’s Orys when you need him?

No need to worry then keep calm and carry on !

Free competition among EU member states was designed to improve living standards in Europe’s less advanced economies. But competition in the road haulage sector is having the opposite effect: it is driving down wages and reducing employment in the richer western nations. The recession may be the culprit, at least in part. But EU law-makers cannot escape their share of the blame. Even the commission admits that the posting of workers directive needs tidying up. New legislation is underway in Brussels.
“The European parliament is really dragging its feet,” says Jonathan Todd, commission spokesman for employment and social affairs. When the EU institutions start to blame each other, you know that something has gone badly wrong.

Sort of epitomises politicians in all walks of life. A deep seated desire to implement ideas and beliefs without thinking them through, and then when it all falls apart find someone else to blame whilst not getting your backside into gear to sort the problem out.

(And of course their T&C’s will be fine whilst they’re on the gravy train).[/i]
Stan

And? Why are you surprised about this people? Everything stated by the RHA numbtie is exactly what the industry believes and after all low wages in the west benefits the RHAs members or am I missing something? :laughing:
The above is the reason that so many lads/lasses are jumping ship and heading to Canada/OZ NZ

What a load of old ■■■■!

Saaamon:
What a load of old [zb]!

DITTO. :angry: :angry:

Err, no, it’s not a load of old ■■■■■ The RHA represent their members, companies such as Turners of Poland, not truck drivers or small hauliers.

The RHA are quite happy while they continue taking money from Hauliers believing they are fighting their corner whilst in reality they are sat in a big office doing nothing apart from counting there membership fees, from his statement the chap from the RHA doesn’t get out in the real world all to often!!
Meanwhile the MEP’s are quite happily living the highlife in Brussels getting a fair old wage and getting paid for living there.
Unbelievable really because the movers & shakers of the haulage industry (read the people who pay the RHA) are probably the worst culprits for subbing work to EE & other Euro countries hauliers!

I gave up my membership a few years ago.
If I hadn’t I would now.
Unfxxxing believable.

As my ex-boss said to me once, the RHA only represent members with 35+ trucks.

Harry Monk:
As my ex-boss said to me once, the RHA only represent members with 35+ trucks.

Agree with totally.

70’s, 80’s, 90’s up to now always been the same I’m afraid. Just wait for the Lemming express to arrive and everyone can jump aboard to destination unknown! None of them know what they are doing except ensuring their own agenda is the priority.

The only reason I continued our membership of the RHA for the many years we did ( one motor to 100 !) was that their Conditions of Carriage and Warehousing were universally accepted as “binding” within the industry,and as long as they were printed on the invoices they would,if required to,settle any disputes that may arise.Fortunately the Warehousing conditions got us out of a serious problem once with a paper mill that went down owing us,at the time,mega bucks for transport.We were able to to put a clamp on the 500 ton of paper we held in one of our warehouses which was valued at more than the debt.I did a deal with the receiver and as the stock was sold we delivered it and got paid bit by bit down to zero.If we hadn’t have had the RHA conditions we would have struggled with our claim.Mind you,at first the ■■■■■■■■ receiver argued the point until he took advice and was told that the RHA conditions were watertight !! Otherwise the RHA is a complete and utter ■■■■■■■ waste of time and money !! “Fast Eddie” was never a member but then again that would have been for entirely different reasons !!! Cheers Bewick.

They make mainland Europe out to be a trucking warzone with an invasion of the eastern front, is it that bad?

My company is a member of that fta, another bunch of cucumber sandwich eating knobs

ROADRANGER:
I gave up my membership a few years ago.
If I hadn’t I would now.
Unfxxxing believable.

Never had and not interested, if I was going to pay someone I would want them to actually represent my interests, I’ll stick with my own T&C of carriage and stick the membership money in a savings account to pay for a good lawyer if I need it!

merc0447:
They make mainland Europe out to be a trucking warzone with an invasion of the eastern front, is it that bad?

YES :imp: :imp: :imp:

Inselaffe:

merc0447:
They make mainland Europe out to be a trucking warzone with an invasion of the eastern front, is it that bad?

YES :imp: :imp: :imp:

Yes it is, we too have been massively hit by the rise or the eastern European haulier, first we lost our long-haul European work, then our short-haul European work, next target is our domestic work and Ramsgate is already full of eastern Europeans pulling ferry trailers.

Stick your head in the sand if you want, forgive me if I don’t join you.

Except in France who as far as I am concerned have not as YET allowed the East Europeans to take over the job market,The French unions do still have
great influence.Not to say outsiders don’t load in France but in many instances it’s the work they don’t want themselves but concern has been raised about those
with the rigid 3 tonne vehicles who are reported to be taking work for less than cost.But things change a few years ago Willi Betz was everywhere now you hardly
see one of his rigs.But big business likes cheap and will happily get it from where ever,thats life.