Dave the Renegade:
One of B J Waters Ltd of Matlock weighing at the Strinds Quarry.
This driver was a Gent,he stopped for Tracy to get a better pic. Cheers mate.
Downsized the pic’s for anyone with a small screen.
Dave, we are ALL gent’s in Matlock!! 
I wonder where Waters and David Brad’s are taking stuff to, plenty of Limestone up here without importing it?
Edited to say is Strinds a granite quarry like Gore?
Pete.
windrush:
Dave the Renegade:
One of B J Waters Ltd of Matlock weighing at the Strinds Quarry.
This driver was a Gent,he stopped for Tracy to get a better pic. Cheers mate.
Downsized the pic’s for anyone with a small screen.Dave, we are ALL gent’s in Matlock!!
I wonder where Waters and David Brad’s are taking stuff to, plenty of Limestone up here without importing it?
Edited to say is Strinds a granite quarry like Gore?
Pete.
Hi Pete,
Limestone mainly at the Strinds,seen Bradleys down here before,ther’s artics from all over the UK baclkoading out of the Gore and Strinds/Dolyhir at the moment,also eight leggers from other tarmac quarries working from these,seems to be very busy,will be interesting to see what happens in the new financial year,although they have some big jobs locally.
Cheers Dave.
Another coming onto the weighbridge at the Gore,possibly another of sammydogs mates 
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Got that one wrong,it’s a Cricklade lorry.
A couple of artics coming down from loading at the Strinds Quarry.
hi dave talking to proth he said its quite busy in south wales but was asked to go and he fancied a change i know tarmac dropped the rates and with the price of fuel imsort of glad im out of it at the mo ive 2 artics parked at home my heart is telling me to get rid but my head is telling me diffrent . should i stay or should i go for good ?
its quite hard to let go when you ve doing it for 30yrs .
sammy dog:
hi dave talking to proth he said its quite busy in south wales but was asked to go and he fancied a change i know tarmac dropped the rates and with the price of fuel imsort of glad im out of it at the mo ive 2 artics parked at home my heart is telling me to get rid but my head is telling me diffrent . should i stay or should i go for good ?
its quite hard to let go when you ve doing it for 30yrs .
Quite agree Martyn,if I could start all over again I’d still jump straight back into a lorry,loved the job,still a nuts about lorries,now wait for the comments.
Cheers Dave.
Hi both,ive been on both sidesof the fence, having ran 7 artics at one time,then packing up and to work for other firms,I miss my own lorries like hell, looking back over these sites leaves me sort of hollow,and being still on the mend after a back op. and being told that I shouldnt drive a lorry for another 9+ months leaves me with a longing to get behind the steering wheel, if youd have asked me 14 months ago I would have told you that the next timei I saw another lorry it would be to soon !!.Im left wondering what else I should do, problem is WHAT, the thought of working in one place all day would drive me mad.
The problem is the rates,which in one word are CRAP, and the running costs are so huge, our goverment doesnt support us,they dont appreciate what we do, in fact we are just tax cows for the country.
I have spent some time looking over some of our old ledgers and the rates that we used to get. Do you know that we were getting £13.50 per tonne for Liverpool to Knighton, and that was in 1970, towards the end of our bulk haulage we were having to do Liverpool to Allensmore,Hereford for £6.25 ■■. The rates started to drop in the early 1980s, 38 T. was a wrong move,firms expected us to haul 25t for the same price that we used to get for 20t, and the same things happening for 44t…I remember doing Gore chippings to Severn Springs,Gloucester for £7.95 in the early 1980s (and that was with 10% taken out working through Roberts Transport,when Roberts had all the outside work at the quarries.),towards the end we were being offered Kington to Cricklade for £4.25:twisted: 
I love the idea of buying and working another outfit,but then the brain kicks in and I smell the flowers.(might go down to Britewells Classic auction in Leominster today & buy a 1928 Morris 1t.commercial,it would pay more.).
so whats the answer ■■
if we were French we would all stick together, bring the country to a standstill within a day, and within a week we would get proper rate of pay for the job,but this is the UK,and it would depend on all hauliers sticking together,and hell will freeze over before that happens. With some of the main players willing to run transport at a loss,so that they can make large profits from wharehousing and storage the small haulier hasnt a chance,were on a hiding to nothing,and it hurts.
regards Andrew.
“HAPPY DAYS”
andrew brick:
Hi both,ive been on both sidesof the fence, having ran 7 artics at one time,then packing up and to work for other firms,I miss my own lorries like hell, looking back over these sites leaves me sort of hollow,and being still on the mend after a back op. and being told that I shouldnt drive a lorry for another 9+ months leaves me with a longing to get behind the steering wheel, if youd have asked me 14 months ago I would have told you that the next timei I saw another lorry it would be to soon !!.Im left wondering what else I should do, problem is WHAT, the thought of working in one place all day would drive me mad.
I have spent some time looking over some of our old ledgers and the rates that we used to get. Do you know that we were getting £13.50 per tonne for Liverpool to Knighton, and that was in 1970, towards the end of our bulk haulage we were having to do Liverpool to Allensmore,Hereford for £6.25 ■■. The rates started to drop in the early 1980s, 38 T. was a wrong move,firms expected us to haul 25t for the same price that we used to get for 20t, and the same things happening for 44t…I remember doing Gore chippings to Severn Springs,Gloucester for £7.95 in the early 1980s (and that was with 10% taken out working through Roberts Transport,when Roberts had all the outside work at the quarries.),towards the end we were being offered Kington to Cricklade for £4.25:twisted:
I love the idea of buying and working another outfit,but then the brain kicks in and I smell the flowers.(might go down to Britewells Classic auction in Leominster today & buy a 1928 Morris 1t.commercial,it would pay more.).
so whats the answer ■■
if we were French we would all stick together, bring the country to a standstill within a day, and within a week we would get proper rate of pay for the job,but this is the UK,and it would depend on all hauliers sticking together,and hell will freeze over before that happens.
regards Andrew.
Keep driving for the firm your with Andrew,at least when you park the lorry,you haven’t got too take work home with you. If you want a ride out,take a trip over to Kington and see all the different outfits that are hauling from the quarries at the moment,some very nice artics,who I would imagine are backloading through a clearing house.
Cheers Dave.
Another one weighing at the Strinds Quarry a couple of days ago.
andrew brick:
“HAPPY DAYS”
Is that a Comet Andrew,hard to tell but the livery looks good 
Chris Webb:
andrew brick:
“HAPPY DAYS”
Is that a Comet Andrew,hard to tell but the livery looks good
Hi Chris,
I think it’s a Badger tractor unit,which is pictured further back in this thread. Andrew will confirm or put me right.
Cheers Dave.
I have to agree with Andrew, the quarry rates started to go rapidly downhill when artics became involved in a big way. We used to have a lot of decent rated runs with 6 and 8 leggers but the rates virtually halved when 32 and later 38 tonners started carting stone as back loads, my last gaffer always said that there should be no such thing as a back load rate and he was right! With large capacity artics he reckoned that they were carting about 5 tons for nothing and would eventually be travelling further with more payload for less reward than they earned on an eight wheeler. I know that road tax etc helped with the artic units, but I wouldn’t think that it would compensate for losing about £3 per tonne. At least the rates on coated stone didn’t differ much!
Pete.
Hereford haulier Mark R Morgan, waiting to load his Scania artic at the Gore Quarry.
Mark R Morgan coming onto the weighbridge at the Gore/
Dave the Renegade:
Chris Webb:
andrew brick:
“HAPPY DAYS”
Is that a Comet Andrew,hard to tell but the livery looks good
Hi Chris,
I think it’s a Badger tractor unit,which is pictured further back in this thread. Andrew will confirm or put me right.
Cheers Dave.
Hi, its a Leyland Badger,along witha new fold sided tipper at the West Mids show,thanks for the comment on the livery.
Mick Hughes heading back into the Strinds with one of the block lorries.
Someting for a long trip boys. 
A couple more coming down from one of the levels at the Strinds Quarry.
That first one is my brother in law,
