Well done Bermuda!

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Fair play to Bermuda, shame we don’t do it here.

I think the headlines should read ‘From Heaven to Hell’ not Hull, lets be fair, is there anywhere worse then Hull ? or anywhere within a forty mile radius … Brid was OK, is that within the criteria?

Moral of the story: if you live somewhere where you don’t have citizenship and you want to stay, you should attempt to gain citizenship rather than continuing to rely on work permits and other temporary permission. Even indefinite permissions, such as the UK’s indefinite leave to remain is subject to limits if the final steps to obtain citizenship are not taken - UK ILR can be lost if you leave the UKÂ for two years. Of course, my injunction to gain citizenship assumes that there is no restriction on dual nationality that forces you to give up a nationality you care about - not every country allows you to keep your existing nationality.

The family in question would do well to sort out British citizenship for their children if the children do not already have it. The children were presumably born Bermudan citizens, but my sketchy memory of UKÂ immigration law is that they can obtain British citizenship on application based on the nationality of their parents. I’d be surprised if there was a restriction on being a dual Bermudan / UKÂ citizen, though it would be best to check first, especially as the children may later want to return to Bermuda to live and work.

The guy can ask the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office to intervene, but, as the article rightly says, this is pointless - the Bermudan government has the right to set their immigration policy. He wouldn’t be going back to the life he formerly had, even if the Bermudan government relented - he’s sold his possessions there including presumably his house, so his daughter wouldn’t be going home, and he has no job there either. Realistically, he is here to stay.

The UK retains the right to set its immigration policy, though EU nationals have rights to live and work here under EUÂ law. Contrary to commonly-held beliefs, the rights of EUÂ nationals to reside and work in other EUÂ Member States have limits attached. The details are found in Directive 2004/38 (especially articles 7, 12, 13 and 14) and related case law.

Unless they start out by working or are self-employed, EUÂ nationals do not have the right to reside in another Member State for more than three months unless they can show they have sufficient resources to support themselves without recourse to state benefits and they have comprehensive sickness insurance (Directive 2004/38 article 7(1)).

Jobseekers formerly employed or self-employed in a Member State where they are not a national can only stay if they can provide evidence of continuing to seek employment and they have a genuine chance of being employed (Antonissen). The right of jobseekers formerly employed in a Member State for less than 12 months to remain there can be curtailed by national law after 6 months of seeking work (Directive 2004/38 article 7(3)). Those formerly employed for 12 months or more are only subject to the Antonissen ruling.

44 Tonne Ton:
Family kicked out of Bermuda after 20 years as UK overseas territory clamps down on BRITISH immigrants | Daily Mail Online

Well done Bermuda ?
This just goes against all natural law & Bermuda should (IMO) be ashamed of themselves, and lets not forget that many Bermudians left the island to live & work in the UK and would not have to endure this type of outrage after 20 years.

we should retaliate, and take back our island. all those that are claiming to be indigenous to bermuda should be deported to africa.

Dodgy Permit:

44 Tonne Ton:
Family kicked out of Bermuda after 20 years as UK overseas territory clamps down on BRITISH immigrants | Daily Mail Online

Well done Bermuda ?
This just goes against all natural law & Bermuda should (IMO) be ashamed of themselves, and lets not forget that many Bermudians left the island to live & work in the UK and would not have to endure this type of outrage after 20 years.

More fool us dontcha fink?

No I do not 44 Ton.
If a family decide to make another country their home & keep in employment, pay their way for a 20 stretch, and in this case have two children there who you would think are entitled to a Bermudian passport ?

On the face of value of the article its a bloody outrage & if true the British government should be asking the ambassador just what the hell is going on (IMO)

Did you read DJWs’ post?

44 Tonne Ton:
Did you read DJWs’ post?

I did but let me rant a little mate. :wink:

As I see it, Bermuda is protecting the interests of its own nationals. Personally, I wish that we could do the same to everybody who has arrived in the UK in the last 20 years, even those who have had children when here.

If we did, we might be able to earn more than £6.08 an hour.

Harry Monk:
As I see it, Bermuda is protecting the interests of its own nationals. Personally, I wish that we could do the same to everybody who has arrived in the UK in the last 20 years, even those who have had children when here.

If we did, we might be able to earn more than £6.08 an hour.

The influx you refer to Harry made no difference (bye & large) all those years ago, but the decision to allow the eastern block into the EU made not the slightest sense to anyone.
This was championed of course (like the Schengen Agreement I suspect) to make Europe a safer place blah blah blah & blah again, by those who rule our lives as they and their sponsors could then draw of a vast workforce who would indeed happily work for a good deal less than the current EU members workers at the time.
Poland did though make a good deal of political sense & of course the EU owed them IMO.

Dodgy Permit:

Harry Monk:
As I see it, Bermuda is protecting the interests of its own nationals. Personally, I wish that we could do the same to everybody who has arrived in the UK in the last 20 years, even those who have had children when here.

If we did, we might be able to earn more than £6.08 an hour.

The influx you refer to Harry made no difference (bye & large) all those years ago, but the decision to allow the eastern block into the EU made not the slightest sense to anyone.
This was championed of course (like the Schengen Agreement I suspect) to make Europe a safer place blah blah blah & blah again, by those who rule our lives as they and their sponsors could then draw of a vast workforce who would indeed happily work for a good deal less than the current EU members workers at the time.
Poland did though make a good deal of political sense & of course the EU owed them IMO.

We owed them eff all.