right last weekend i reduce my break by quite a lot so by next week ill have to make 60hrs up so have to finish thrusday teatime to get back on trck for my start on sunday.im running tomorrow after my 45 hr break this week tipping in exeter then parking in plymouth till 3pm monday when i can load out of the naval port.
traffic guy thinks i can make part of my 60 rest period up from tomorrow till when i start on monday then make the rest up over the coming weekend.i know for sure that it must be taken in one full block.
this is true to my knowlegde can any else back it up.
will be parked up by 12pm sunday dinner time till 3pm monday
thunder367:
right last weekend i reduce my break by quite a lot so by next week ill have to make 60hrs up so have to finish thrusday teatime to get back on trck for my start on sunday.im running tomorrow after my 45 hr break this week tipping in exeter then parking in plymouth till 3pm monday when i can load out of the naval port.
traffic guy thinks i can make part of my 60 rest period up from tomorrow till when i start on monday then make the rest up over the coming weekend.i know for sure that it must be taken in one full block.
this is true to my knowlegde can any else back it up.
will be parked up by 12pm sunday dinner time till 3pm monday
you don’t have to make back the reduction till the 3rd weekend following the reduction in break. you can take a 45 hr off this week with no problem, but you must make back the compensation for the reduction in one block you cannot split it 
sorry miss read what you put, you can make up the reduction by putting it on the end of a 9 hr rest but it still has to be enblock you can not make it up any other way 
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thunder367:
right last weekend i reduce my break by quite a lot so by next week ill have to make 60hrs up so have to finish thrusday teatime to get back on trck for my start on sunday.im running tomorrow after my 45 hr break this week tipping in exeter then parking in plymouth till 3pm monday when i can load out of the naval port.
traffic guy thinks i can make part of my 60 rest period up from tomorrow till when i start on monday then make the rest up over the coming weekend.i know for sure that it must be taken in one full block.
this is true to my knowlegde can any else back it up.
will be parked up by 12pm sunday dinner time till 3pm monday
If you are parked up for 9 hrs more than your break then that can be used to compensate so if you are parked up for 20 hours 11 hours normal break then 9 hours compensation
thunder367:
right last weekend i reduce my break by quite a lot so by next week ill have to make 60hrs up so have to finish thrusday teatime to get back on trck for my start on sunday.im running tomorrow after my 45 hr break this week tipping in exeter then parking in plymouth till 3pm monday when i can load out of the naval port.
traffic guy thinks i can make part of my 60 rest period up from tomorrow till when i start on monday then make the rest up over the coming weekend.i know for sure that it must be taken in one full block.
this is true to my knowlegde can any else back it up.
will be parked up by 12pm sunday dinner time till 3pm monday
You’re TM is wrong compensation must be paid back in one lump 
You say you have 60 hours off so I assume you reduced the weekly rest period by 15 hours last week.
Compensation for a reduced weekly rest period must be paid back en block (in one lump) by the end of the third week following the week in which the reduced weekly rest period counted for, so really you could leave it another week if you wanted to.
Alternatively as you’re having 25 hours off Sunday/Monday you could count it as a reduced daily rest period of 9 hours plus the 15 hours compensation you appear to owe.
However it would mean that you would need to start a new weekly rest period no later than next Saturday at the same time that you start tomorrow (hope that’s understandable), but it seems that you plan to do that anyway.
It would also mean that you would be using one of your reduced daily rest periods, so you would only have two more left until your next weekly rest period.
Page 20 - Rules on Drivers Hours and Tachographs:
Alternatively, a driver can take a reduced weekly rest period of a minimum of 24 consecutive hours. If a reduction is taken, it must be compensated for by an equivalent period of rest taken in one block before the end of the third week following the week in question. The compensating rest must be attached to a period of rest of at least 9 hours — in effect either a weekly or a daily rest period.
edit: fixed typo.
tachograph:
thunder367:
right last weekend i reduce my break by quite a lot so by next week ill have to make 60hrs up so have to finish thrusday teatime to get back on trck for my start on sunday.im running tomorrow after my 45 hr break this week tipping in exeter then parking in plymouth till 3pm monday when i can load out of the naval port.
traffic guy thinks i can make part of my 60 rest period up from tomorrow till when i start on monday then make the rest up over the coming weekend.i know for sure that it must be taken in one full block.
this is true to my knowlegde can any else back it up.
will be parked up by 12pm sunday dinner time till 3pm mondayYou’re TM is wrong compensation must be paid back in one lump
You say you have 60 hours off so I assume you reduced the weekly rest period by 15 hours last week.
Compensation for a reduced weekly rest period must be paid back en block (in one lump) by the end of the third week following the week in which the reduced weekly rest period counted for, so really you could leave it another week if you wanted to.
Alternatively as you’re having 25 hours off Sunday/Monday you could count it as a reduced weekly rest period of 9 hours plus the 15 hours compensation you appear to owe.
However it would mean that you would need to start a new weekly rest period no later than next Saturday at the same time that you start tomorrow (hope that’s understandable), but it seems that you plan to do that anyway.
It would also mean that you would be using one of your reduced daily rest periods for this week so it depends on whether or not you have one available.
Page 20 - Rules on Drivers Hours and Tachographs:
Alternatively, a driver can take a reduced weekly rest period of a minimum of 24 consecutive hours. If a reduction is taken, it must be compensated for by an equivalent period of rest taken in one block before the end of the third week following the week in question. The compensating rest must be attached to a period of rest of at least 9 hours — in effect either a weekly or a daily rest period.
Did a cpc course on thursday and was told after showing my records that you can pay back weekly rest in short periods over the following week etc. eg, if you have a reduced rest of say 39 hours but on the following tuesday you have a rest period of 15 hours, then four hours can be used to pay bact to the 39 hours of reduced rest from the weekend.
I have been doing this now for 5 months and have not recieved one infringment, so you can look at that as you want.
Madguy 
madguy:
Did a cpc course on thursday and was told after showing my records that you can pay back weekly rest in short periods over the following week etc. eg, if you have a reduced rest of say 39 hours but on the following tuesday you have a rest period of 15 hours, then four hours can be used to pay bact to the 39 hours of reduced rest from the weekend.I have been doing this now for 5 months and have not recieved one infringment, so you can look at that as you want.
Madguy
Compensation for reduced weekly rest periods must be paid back en-Block by adding them onto any rest period of 9 hours or more.
If you was told different you was told wrong
Your TM or compliance manager needs to do some studying, and unless there was some misunderstanding so does the DCPC trainer who told you that.
Article 8 - (EC) 561/2006:
Article 8
- In any two consecutive weeks a driver shall take at least:
– two regular weekly rest periods, or
– one regular weekly rest period and one reduced weekly
rest period of at least 24 hours. However, the reduction
shall be compensated by an equivalent period of rest
taken en bloc before the end of the third week following
the week in question.
thunder367:
right last weekend i reduce my break by quite a lot so by next week ill have to make 60hrs up so have to finish thrusday teatime to get back on trck for my start on sunday.im running tomorrow after my 45 hr break this week tipping in exeter then parking in plymouth till 3pm monday…
will be parked up by 12pm sunday dinner time till 3pm monday
last weekend = reduced rest of 30 hours leaving 15 to pay back
This week = full weekly rest of 45 hours over fri/sat/sun
27 hours off from noon this sunday to 3pm monday which could be used as either (1) a daily rest plus 15 hours payback or (2) as another reduced weekly rest which does not need compensating for
Have I got that correct 
tachograph:
madguy:
Did a cpc course on thursday and was told after showing my records that you can pay back weekly rest in short periods over the following week etc. eg, if you have a reduced rest of say 39 hours but on the following tuesday you have a rest period of 15 hours, then four hours can be used to pay bact to the 39 hours of reduced rest from the weekend.I have been doing this now for 5 months and have not recieved one infringment, so you can look at that as you want.
Madguy
Compensation for reduced weekly rest periods must be paid back en-Block by adding them onto any rest period of 9 hours or more.
If you was told different you was told wrong
Your TM or compliance manager needs to do some studying, and unless there was some misunderstanding so does the DCPC trainer who told you that.
Article 8 - (EC) 561/2006:
Article 8
- In any two consecutive weeks a driver shall take at least:
– two regular weekly rest periods, or
– one regular weekly rest period and one reduced weekly
rest period of at least 24 hours. However, the reduction
shall be compensated by an equivalent period of rest
taken en bloc before the end of the third week following
the week in question.
Well like i said, i have been doing this now for five months, we have our hours and digi cards checked regularly and i havnt had and infringment as yet, so i guess for now i will listen to them instead of you, no insult intended but i would rather take notice of someone who has the authority and qualifications to teach this stuff…
Madguy
madguy:
tachograph:
Article 8 - (EC) 561/2006:
Article 8
- In any two consecutive weeks a driver shall take at least:
– two regular weekly rest periods, or
– one regular weekly rest period and one reduced weekly
rest period of at least 24 hours. However, the reduction
shall be compensated by an equivalent period of rest
taken en bloc before the end of the third week following
the week in question.Well like i said, i have been doing this now for five months, we have our hours and digi cards checked regularly and i havnt had and infringment as yet, so i guess for now i will listen to them instead of you, no insult intended but i would rather take notice of someone who has the authority and qualifications to teach this stuff…
Madguy
Well it’s certainly true that I have no authority or qualifications to teach, but then I also have no inclination to teach either.
I do however have the regulations that I’ve quoted to back up what I’ve said, so it’s not a case of you believing the instructor rather than believing me, it’s more a case of you believing the instructor and analysis person rather than the regulations and the VOSA guide both of which I’ve quoted and linked to in this thread.
Having said that it’s your license your job and your choice, have a good day
ROG:
27 hours off from noon this sunday to 3pm monday which could be used as either (1) a daily rest plus 15 hours payback or (2) as another reduced weekly rest which does not need compensating forHave I got that correct
You’re right it is 27 hours which for some reason I’d worked out to 25 hours 
Assuming that the OP owes 15 hours compensation he could use the time off tomorrow/Monday to pay back the compensation without using a reduced daily rest period.
ROG:
thunder367:
right last weekend i reduce my break by quite a lot so by next week ill have to make 60hrs up so have to finish thrusday teatime to get back on trck for my start on sunday.im running tomorrow after my 45 hr break this week tipping in exeter then parking in plymouth till 3pm monday…
will be parked up by 12pm sunday dinner time till 3pm mondaylast weekend = reduced rest of 30 hours leaving 15 to pay back
This week = full weekly rest of 45 hours over fri/sat/sun
27 hours off from noon this sunday to 3pm monday which could be used as either (1) a daily rest plus 15 hours payback or (2) as another reduced weekly rest which does not need compensating forHave I got that correct
Thanks tachograph I thought I had misread it
So that would mean …
option (1) = full weekly rest started by next saturday at whatever the time was when the sunday run was started tomorrow
OR
option (2) = full weekly rest started by 3pm next sunday
Is that correct?
ROG:
ROG:
thunder367:
right last weekend i reduce my break by quite a lot so by next week ill have to make 60hrs up so have to finish thrusday teatime to get back on trck for my start on sunday.im running tomorrow after my 45 hr break this week tipping in exeter then parking in plymouth till 3pm monday…
will be parked up by 12pm sunday dinner time till 3pm mondaylast weekend = reduced rest of 30 hours leaving 15 to pay back
This week = full weekly rest of 45 hours over fri/sat/sun
27 hours off from noon this sunday to 3pm monday which could be used as either (1) a daily rest plus 15 hours payback or (2) as another reduced weekly rest which does not need compensating forHave I got that correct
Thanks tachograph I thought I had misread it
So that would mean …
option (1) = full weekly rest started by next saturday at whatever the time was when the sunday run was started tomorrow
If the OP chooses to use the time off tomorrow/Monday as daily rest plus compensation then he would need to start a new weekly rest period no later than next Saturday at whatever time he starts tomorrow, ie if he starts at 07:00 tomorrow he will need to start a weekly rest period 07:00 Saturday.
OR
ROG:
option (2) = full weekly rest started by 3pm next sunday
If he chooses to use tomorrow/Monday as a reduced weekly rest period and restarts work 15:00 Monday, he would need to start a new weekly rest period no later than 15:00 next Sunday.
The OP has had a regular weekly rest period this week so the weekly rest period mentioned in both the options above for next weekend does not have to be a regular weekly rest period, it could be a reduced weekly rest period.
madguy:
tachograph:
madguy:
Did a cpc course on thursday and was told after showing my records that you can pay back weekly rest in short periods over the following week etc. eg, if you have a reduced rest of say 39 hours but on the following tuesday you have a rest period of 15 hours, then four hours can be used to pay bact to the 39 hours of reduced rest from the weekend.I have been doing this now for 5 months and have not recieved one infringment, so you can look at that as you want.
Madguy
Compensation for reduced weekly rest periods must be paid back en-Block by adding them onto any rest period of 9 hours or more.
If you was told different you was told wrong
Your TM or compliance manager needs to do some studying, and unless there was some misunderstanding so does the DCPC trainer who told you that.
Article 8 - (EC) 561/2006:
Article 8
- In any two consecutive weeks a driver shall take at least:
– two regular weekly rest periods, or
– one regular weekly rest period and one reduced weekly
rest period of at least 24 hours. However, the reduction
shall be compensated by an equivalent period of rest
taken en bloc before the end of the third week following
the week in question.Well like i said, i have been doing this now for five months, we have our hours and digi cards checked regularly and i havnt had and infringment as yet, so i guess for now i will listen to them instead of you, no insult intended but i would rather take notice of someone who has the authority and qualifications to teach this stuff…
Madguy
its always been that any reduced weekly rest had to be paid back en bloc, thats been the same for the 20 yrs i’ve been driving. the only thing that changed was we no longer have to pay back reduced daily breaks, which we use to have to do
The OP has had a regular weekly rest period this week so the weekly rest period mentioned in both the options above for next weekend does not have to be a regular weekly rest period, it could be a reduced weekly rest period.
I stand corrected - TA
I did think i was off key somewhere in my thinking today
ROG:
wildfire:
The OP has had a regular weekly rest period this week so the weekly rest period mentioned in both the options above for next weekend does not have to be a regular weekly rest period, it could be a reduced weekly rest period.I stand corrected - TA
I did think i was off key somewhere in my thinking today
You was “off key” with your quote to 
tachograph:
You was “off key” with your quote to
I am having one of those days !!! - quote fixed
madguy:
Well like i said, i have been doing this now for five months, we have our hours and digi cards checked regularly and i havnt had and infringment as yet, so i guess for now i will listen to them instead of you, no insult intended but i would rather take notice of someone who has the authority and qualifications to teach this stuff…
I find in situations like this you’re best to ignore everything everyone has told you and actually read the regulations to find out the correct answer.
If you do that you will find tachograph is right and either your tacho analysis people have got it wrong or you are actually getting enough to compensate in one block somewhere but not realising it.
Paul
Well like i said, i have been checked monthly by the company and there tacho people, and no one has come back wth an infringment, all of the newer drivers have also been checked very carefully and again i still have no infringment.
Not really much else to say on it as far as im concerned down to if i get done so does the company so its in there interest to make sure we run correctly…
Madguy
madguy:
Well like i said, i have been checked monthly by the company and there tacho people, and no one has come back wth an infringment, all of the newer drivers have also been checked very carefully and again i still have no infringment.Not really much else to say on it as far as im concerned down to if i get done so does the company so its in there interest to make sure we run correctly…
Madguy
You are Mad guy! I wouldn’t be trusting my license to some pencil in the office that’s for sure. But hey! 
dessy:
madguy:
Well like i said, i have been checked monthly by the company and there tacho people, and no one has come back wth an infringment, all of the newer drivers have also been checked very carefully and again i still have no infringment.Not really much else to say on it as far as im concerned down to if i get done so does the company so its in there interest to make sure we run correctly…
Madguy
You are Mad guy! I wouldn’t be trusting my license to some pencil in the office that’s for sure. But hey!
Neither would I, I recently had an infringement for driving for 6+ hours, not really, it’s just the way the tacho reset the driving time when using POA, I had to do a printout and show what had happened. Just because you don’t get an analysis infringement doesn’t mean you haven’t infringed the rules (and vice versa). As for not trusting Tachograph, you’re quite right, I wouldn’t trust anything you hear from another driver without checking and then understanding what’s been said, BUT he’s never ever far off the mark and quotes directly from the relevant legislation, which is hell of a lot better than many TM’s or (often unqualified) CPC trainers who’ve never heard of GV262.