Weekend rest, this can't be right?

As we know the weekend rest is 45 hours, you can reduce to 24, but that needs to be made up by the end of the third week.

A bloke i was talking to reckons that if you take say 15 hours off one night instead of 11, then the 4 hours difference can be taken off your 45 hours. or added to any reduction.

There were all sorts of permutations that he came up with and he reckons he has been pulled by vosa and they say he is correct.

I think he is talking [zb], what do you think?

In my personal opinion, that doesn’t sound right at all.

…and I reckon this topic is on its way to the WTD forum :wink:
Alex

Cannot ‘make up’ for a reduction in advance.

Any reduction has to be made in one lump - if a reduction of 10 hours was made then the full 10 hours has to be added to either a daily or weekly rest period

limeyphil:
As we know the weekend rest is 45 hours, you can reduce to 24, but that needs to be made up by the end of the third week.

A bloke i was talking to reckons that if you take say 15 hours off one night instead of 11, then the 4 hours difference can be taken off your 45 hours. or added to any reduction.

There were all sorts of permutations that he came up with and he reckons he has been pulled by vosa and they say he is correct.

I think he is talking [zb], what do you think?

If he means that you can have 4 hours extra daily rest then deduct the 4 hours from a weekly rest period that doesn’t immediately follow that days shift then he’s talking complete rubbish :unamused:

As already said the compensation for a reduced weekly rest has to be paid back en block by the end of the third week following the week in which the reduced weekly rest was taken, so again unless the reduction was 4 hours or less (in this case) then he’s talking rubbish.

I suggest you tell him to come here and repeat what he told you and we’ll set Neil onto him :laughing:

But, if you had a 41 hour weekly rest in the past few weeks, you can use that 15 hour daily rest to compensate for the 4 hours you cut off the weekly rest you’ve already done. But you can’t do it in bits and pieces. You have to compensate for each individual reduction in one lump.
So if you cut 10 off your weekly rest, you can do 19 hours daily and compensate that way…

isn’t technically even 44 hours 59 minutes counted as a 24 now, e.g you cannot take 36 and just make up the 9 by end of third week? the 21 has to be added to another weekly rest?

jj72:
isn’t technically even 44 hours 59 minutes counted as a 24 now, e.g you cannot take 36 and just make up the 9 by end of third week? the 21 has to be added to another weekly rest?

If you reduce your weekly rest in week 1 to 36 hours then you would have 9 hours to compensate for before the end of week 4. You only have to compensate for the amount of the reduction, you don’t have to take an extra 21 hours for each reduction. The only time you would need the 21 hour compensation would be if you did reduce down to 24 hours.

jj72:
the 21 has to be added to another weekly rest?

Or a daily rest. The compensation must be taken in one bloc and added to another rest period of at least 9 hours.

Yep Limep, he,s talking zb. :unamused:
True jj72 i had 44hrs 30mins off when i got the UTC times mixed up with summer time the french vosa opps at Potiers sud pointed it out to me only got a warning though ,i also had to explain the two or three ferry moves a week as well,
And as the others say the compensation has to be taken in one lump by the end of the third week

klunk/■■■■■■■■
And as the others say the compensation has to be taken in one lump by the end of the third week

End of week four.

Coffeeholic:

klunk/■■■■■■■■
And as the others say the compensation has to be taken in one lump by the end of the third week

End of week four.

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
then i found this on vosa :arrow_right:

Alternatively, a driver can take a reduced weekly rest period of a minimum of 24 consecutive hours.
If a reduction is taken, it must be compensated for by an equivalent period of rest taken in one block
before the end of the third week following the week in question. The compensating rest must be
attached to a period of rest of at least 9 hours — in effect either a weekly or a daily rest period.

205:

Coffeeholic:

klunk/■■■■■■■■
And as the others say the compensation has to be taken in one lump by the end of the third week

End of week four.

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
then i found this on vosa :arrow_right:

Alternatively, a driver can take a reduced weekly rest period of a minimum of 24 consecutive hours.
If a reduction is taken, it must be compensated for by an equivalent period of rest taken in one block
before the end of the third week following the week in question. The compensating rest must be
attached to a period of rest of at least 9 hours — in effect either a weekly or a daily rest period.

that’s what coffeeholic said

Coffeeholic:
End of week four.

before the end of the third week following the week in question
key word = following

205:

Coffeeholic:

klunk/■■■■■■■■
And as the others say the compensation has to be taken in one lump by the end of the third week

End of week four.

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
then i found this on vosa :arrow_right:

Alternatively, a driver can take a reduced weekly rest period of a minimum of 24 consecutive hours.
If a reduction is taken, it must be compensated for by an equivalent period of rest taken in one block
before the end of the third week following the week in question. The compensating rest must be
attached to a period of rest of at least 9 hours — in effect either a weekly or a daily rest period.

Thanks for posting the relevant quote from the regulations confirming I was correct, I should have done it in my post but was short of time when I made it. Cheers.

no worries :slight_smile:
i was reading both sites at the time trying to work it all out
:wink: