We hear every day, “Resession, Credit Crunch, Redundancy”.
Why is it still a priority of Beverley Belle to shut down a haulier and put people on the dole on what seems to be a daily basis?
She’s acting like judge, jury, and excecutioner. It’s not on, and it should come to an end.
She’s acting like judge, jury, and excecutioner
Possibly because that whats she paid a rather large amount of money to do - I doubt she shuts anyone down for fun and giggles… maybe they doing something wrong? 
Rikki-UK:
She’s acting like judge, jury, and excecutioner
Possibly because that whats she paid a rather large amount of money to do - I doubt she shuts anyone down for fun and giggles… maybe they doing something wrong?
I think you’re very wrong Ricky. She shuts down more than any other TC. I reckon it’s more of an ego trip. Kind of like some coppers, As soon as they have the uniform on, They think they are higher than God.
I can’t see why a company should ever be shut down, especially as we are in hard times. Why don’t they put administrators in, Just as they would if a company was to go under, but was seen as potentially viable?
Now see we can agree on something- There is a lack of consistency between the different traffic areas and between different TC’s, Ms Bell is known for being one of the stricter TC’s.
I also think your other comment is worthy of debate…
I doubt if there are panels of experienced transport company directors and CPC holders, just waiting to “Go into” a non compliant company, who is going to pay for them while they wait on a job to come up? us the taxpayer? from whose budgets? who pays them to run a essentailly privately owned compnay, us the tax payer?
What you could do is put someone in to advise the compnay on where they are going wrong and show them the methods and procedures they could use to rectify the problems, say someone like a senior VOSA examiner, but that would depend on the compnay being willing to work with the VOSA man, what do you do if they refuse to co-operate? - do we have legislation that gives VOSA the right to take over the management of a company? that would make VOSA a haulier and I suspect be seen by most of us as a huge conflict of interest
Would a enforced takeover better than shutting a company down? literaly giving the trucks. drivers and business to a company that has shown it runs legal? It would save the jobs but I can hear the cries of anger as a family company owned for generations is summarily removed from them and given to their greatest local rivals, so give it to one of the big boys? can hear the cries even louder with shouts of how the little man is being closed down by those big enough to have political muscle.
I am not totaly decrying the idea. it is interesting and could be worth talking through to see if theres a way it could work.
If companys are running bent running shut them down ! 
then prehaps a legit haulier will reap from work and take on the drivers 
Rikki-UK:
. it is interesting and could be worth talking through to see if theres a way it could work.
Oh it works easily, just like banks and car manufacturers. We pay and the people who run it earn a fortune for spending our dosh !! 
And if you happen to be a tax payer and you’re in direct competition with said company you could console yourself with the thought that you are subsidising your own competition. Everyones a winner !!!
limeyphil:
We hear every day, “Resession, Credit Crunch, Redundancy”.Why is it still a priority of Beverley Belle to shut down a haulier and put people on the dole on what seems to be a daily basis?
She’s acting like judge, jury, and excecutioner. It’s not on, and it should come to an end.
Geezzuuss - here we go again! It’s we hate Beverley Bell time again!
It’s not her priority “to shut down” any haulier. It’s her priority to ensure every haulier stays within the law.
She has recently had her knuckles rapped over the Oliver case
i aint even going here 
limeyphil:
We hear every day, “Resession, Credit Crunch, Redundancy”.Why is it still a priority of Beverley Belle to shut down a haulier and put people on the dole on what seems to be a daily basis?
She’s acting like judge, jury, and excecutioner. It’s not on, and it should come to an end.
That’s probably just what she says when she comes accross a cowboy operator who continues to show blatent disregard for the rule book even after several warnings.
limeyphil:
She shuts down more than any other TC. I reckon it’s more of an ego trip.
Maybe that just means she’s better at her job than everyone else? If she’s shutting them down when she shouldn’t they can always appeal and get another TC to look at the case anyway.
limeyphil:
I can’t see why a company should ever be shut down, especially as we are in hard times.
I can! There is overcapacity in the UK haulage sector, hauliers are going under left right and centre. The more bent ones the TCs get rid of, the more good guys are going to survive.
Paul
TC’s are there to protect the industry from cowboys, bent runners or fiddling drivers, its not a job for the faint hearted, could you do it, can you be tell who’s breaking the law, are you doing it have you run over your time has your boss asked you to do him a favor.
we as drivers have a responsibility to work within the law so do the companies, if companies do wrong then there get what coming to them
just think of something if you as a driver is driving a truck and you are running bent and you kill someone who’s to blame 100% you, no one else you carry the can you have to live with it for the rest of your lives,
repton:
I can! There is overcapacity in the UK haulage sector, hauliers are going under left right and centre. The more bent ones the TCs get rid of, the more good guys are going to survive.Paul
I couldn’t agree more. It’s not rocket science all you have to do is stick to the rules and you’ll be ok. Those that don’t will be put out of business and the straight companies will take on the work at better rates, we may even get a pay rise.
My only concern is, is the same effort being but into removing bent foreign hauliers.
Great idea about putting someone in,and let the bent or not right company pay their wages.Surely they could be put in on purely an administration capacity,to look after hours,testing or whatever the TC has found inadequate.Give them the choice,department official looking after their misdemeanours or close up.Im sure Ms.Bell doesnt close companies down for a small misdemeanour.Surely its taken over a period of time and its consistantly flouting the rules.
Having said that,I am only commenting on what Ive read,and Im not privvy to the facts.
If she`s at a loose end for the summer holidays,she could come over here and tidy up some of the wayward operators on this side of the pond.
limeyphil:
I can’t see why a company should ever be shut down, especially as we are in hard times. Why don’t they put administrators in, Just as they would if a company was to go under, but was seen as potentially viable?
Lets take that statement to it’s logical conclusion.
forget all regulations, haulage companies can act as they please in a free market. provided they get customers and drivers to work for them they can do what they want. Ok so those who do thier best to follow the regs will either have to srop thier standards or go to the wall, but it’s a free market.
Lets not bother maintaining the vehicle, as long as it works than thats ok. If yuo’ve ever been to a 3rd World country you’ll soon see what state a truck can be in and still move.
Forget drivers hours.
Keep driving until the boss can’t find a back load or fatigue gets to you.
O licence? No we’ll just operate from a bit of land behind your house and scream past your kids school, cos we won’t get shut down for speeding either.
When you see some of the ludicrously light punishments handed out by other TC’s for blatant disregard of the rules,it’s nice to see some real discipline can be handed out! More power to your elbow gal!
Phil. I love you, but not in that way, but you do talk some crap 
Beverley Bell has just closed our local bus service. Either i don’t give a ■■■■ about traveling on buses or I might have people I care about who use this service.
The facts of this case is that VOSA have warned this operator about their lack of maintenance. The company have ignored that advice so your Nemesis has shut them down. Rightly so I say. I don’t want a bus full of senior citizens to knock me off my motorcycle because they do not have any brakes.
Neither do I want my girlfriend killed as she travels to ASDA to get me some Heineken.
If the company ignores any advice given, Then it should be the directors who are ousted, Not everyone.
I’ve worked for dodgy outfits, and so have many others on here.
We were taken over by legit directors. And it’s made a massive difference. If you’re out of time, Then you’re out of time, No arguments.
But that’s not how it used to be. The boss would just get other drivers in. So the drivers just got on with it and said nothing.
So a simple change of authority can cure a dodgy outfit, Without the need for a complete shutdown.
What i’m saying is, Beverley Belle should look at alternatives, Rather than putting people on the dole, There’s enough people on the dole without people loseing jobs unnecessarily.
limeyphil:
Then it should be the directors who are ousted, Not everyone.
I thought that most directors were also the owners in which case that would not work.
It does work when the recievers send in administrators to take over from unsuitable directors. This only works if the reciever decides that there is a decent chance of turning a failing company into a successful company.
So it can work with a successful company that’s running bent. It could remain a successful company, But it would run legal.
Simples.