Wannabe driver from Bulgaria needs an advice

Hallo to everybody! I’m Peter from Bulgaria. Things in my country are going from very bad to even much worse, so I’m thinking about relocating. I would like to ask a few questions and I will appreciate any answer.

Is it easy these days to get a trucking job in the UK?
Are there any trucking companies, that might hire somebody without much experience in the UK?

I used to be a driving instructor, and I have got lots of driving and teaching experience, but only 3 months as a long-haul driver. Until now I have taught more than 400 people to drive a car, and more than 150 people to drive a truck with a semi-trailer. I have been driving regularly since the age of 14, and until now I have more than 250 000 km behind the steering wheel of different cars, and more than 250 000 km as a Driving Instructor.

There are many firms that do night trunking to and from large pallet hubs on night work,some like working nights some do not.
For the South West of the uk for fridge work and general haulage,you could google the following,but i do not know if they have jobs there or not:
Peter Green,uk/International at Evercreech in Someset.
Wilmotts transport at Cranmore,Somerset.
Massey Wilcox at Chilcompton,Somerset.
Framptons Transport Services ltd,at Shepton Mallet,Somerset.
Ralph Davies,Cheltenham.
Davies International at Eastleigh,Southamton.
Wrings ltd,Bristol.
IJ Mgill,Bristol.
Arla ltd at Frome,milk tankers.
Bailey employment agency at Melksham,ask for Geoff Long.

Bulgar, Bulgar!:
Hallo to everybody! I’m 44 Tonne Ton from London. Things in my country are going from very bad to even much worse, so I’m thinking about relocating. I would like to ask a few questions and I will appreciate any answer.

Is it easy these days to get a trucking job in the Bulgaria?
Are there any trucking companies, that might hire somebody without much experience in the Bulgaria?

I used to be a driving instructor, and I have got lots of driving and teaching experience, but only 3 months as a long-haul driver. Until now I have taught more than 400 people to drive a car, and more than 150 people to drive a truck with a semi-trailer. I have been driving regularly since the age of 14, and until now I have more than 250 000 km behind the steering wheel of different cars, and more than 250 000 km as a Driving Instructor.

Bulgar, Bulgar!:
Hallo to everybody! I’m Peter from Bulgaria. Things in my country are going from very bad to even much worse, so I’m thinking about relocating. I would like to ask a few questions and I will appreciate any answer.

Is it easy these days to get a trucking job in the UK?
Are there any trucking companies, that might hire somebody without much experience in the UK?

I used to be a driving instructor, and I have got lots of driving and teaching experience, but only 3 months as a long-haul driver. Until now I have taught more than 400 people to drive a car, and more than 150 people to drive a truck with a semi-trailer. I have been driving regularly since the age of 14, and until now I have more than 250 000 km behind the steering wheel of different cars, and more than 250 000 km as a Driving Instructor.

I think Davey Driver may disagree with you, everything there is rosy, with fluffy bunnies playing outside his mansion, jobs are ten a penny and there is zero crime :wink:

You don’t need to worry about work and money here !

As many have found just come over and sign on,we’ll give you a house, plenty of money, training to get a job that already have about a thousand applicants for and as a bonus if you let someone know you have six kids at home you’ll get even more money…

Cheers :confused:

Please note, this offer is not open to UK nationals !!

Madguy :smiling_imp:

madguy:
You don’t need to worry about work and money here !

As many have found just come over and sign on,we’ll give you a house, plenty of money, training to get a job that already have about a thousand applicants for and as a bonus if you let someone know you have six kids at home you’ll get even more money…

That is simply not true - as a Bulgarian national, the original poster is an EU national. Like all EU nationals, Directive 2004/38 will only give him, his spouse and dependants the right of residence in the UK beyond 3 months if he is working, self-employed or is able to support himself without recourse to UK social security and has sickness insurance. His rights to remain as a jobseeker would be limited unless he has worked for 12 months in the UK.

The original poster would need to check that there’s no restrictions on 2007 accession country nationals working in the UK. I don’t believe there are.

Don’t believe all the garbage in the right-wing press about foreigners on plenty of money. There are some who have done very well out of the asylum system, but these are few and far between. The system for publicly funded housing is being tightened up for everyone, including UK nationals. Where the UK falls down badly is in removing failed asylum seekers from the country.

Rather than complaining about those who are fully entitled to work over here or the European Union, how about putting pressure on the UK government to sort out the mess that is the removal system. Far too many failed asylum seekers are released pending removal, only to break their reporting conditions and disappear.

Madguy - if you can get a job in Bulgaria, you have every right to live and work out there. It cuts both ways.

To Peter, the original poster - I think it’s fair to say that the job market for LGV drivers is pretty tough over here in most areas. Your living costs are likely to be much higher than in Bulgaria and the journey over here can’t be that cheap, either. You may well find that you struggle to get even agency work.

However, if you can find work in the UK, good luck to you. If you don’t want to exchange your Bulgarian licence for a UK one, you must register your Bulgarian licence with the British Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency for any LGV (C1, C1E, C, CE) and PCV (D1, D1E, D, DE) categories to be valid. More details can be found here.

You cannot teach car driving for payment without holding an Approved Driving Instructor certificate, which would require you to pass the UK qualifying tests. So long as you’ve held your LGV licence for three years, I’m almost certain you can supervise LGV learners on the basis of your Bulgarian licence once you register it with DVLA - there is a register of LGV instructors in the UK, but it’s voluntary (unfortunately, in my opinion - I think being on the instructor register should be mandatory if you’re teaching for money). However, there aren’t going to be many openings for LGV instructors.

djw:

madguy:
You don’t need to worry about work and money here !

As many have found just come over and sign on,we’ll give you a house, plenty of money, training to get a job that already have about a thousand applicants for and as a bonus if you let someone know you have six kids at home you’ll get even more money…

That is simply not true - as a Bulgarian national, the original poster is an EU national. Like all EU nationals, Directive 2004/38 will only give him, his spouse and dependants the right of residence in the UK beyond 3 months if he is working, self-employed or is able to support himself without recourse to UK social security and has sickness insurance. His rights to remain as a jobseeker would be limited unless he has worked for 12 months in the UK.

The original poster would need to check that there’s no restrictions on 2007 accession country nationals working in the UK. I don’t believe there are.

Don’t believe all the garbage in the right-wing press about foreigners on plenty of money. There are some who have done very well out of the asylum system, but these are few and far between. The system for publicly funded housing is being tightened up for everyone, including UK nationals. Where the UK falls down badly is in removing failed asylum seekers from the country.

Rather than complaining about those who are fully entitled to work over here or the European Union, how about putting pressure on the UK government to sort out the mess that is the removal system. Far too many failed asylum seekers are released pending removal, only to break their reporting conditions and disappear.

Madguy - if you can get a job in Bulgaria, you have every right to live and work out there. It cuts both ways.

To Peter, the original poster - I think it’s fair to say that the job market for LGV drivers is pretty tough over here in most areas. Your living costs are likely to be much higher than in Bulgaria and the journey over here can’t be that cheap, either. You may well find that you struggle to get even agency work.

However, if you can find work in the UK, good luck to you. If you don’t want to exchange your Bulgarian licence for a UK one, you must register your Bulgarian licence with the British Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency for any LGV (C1, C1E, C, CE) and PCV (D1, D1E, D, DE) categories to be valid. More details can be found here.

You cannot teach car driving for payment without holding an Approved Driving Instructor certificate, which would require you to pass the UK qualifying tests. So long as you’ve held your LGV licence for three years, I’m almost certain you can supervise LGV learners on the basis of your Bulgarian licence once you register it with DVLA - there is a register of LGV instructors in the UK, but it’s voluntary (unfortunately, in my opinion - I think being on the instructor register should be mandatory if you’re teaching for money). However, there aren’t going to be many openings for LGV instructors.

Jesus Man, it was a bit of light harted banter, chill out for gods sake you’ll get a hernia !!!

Madguy :smiling_imp:

First, I would like to thank for all the replies so far!

Second, I would like to welcome 44 Tonne Ton to Bulgaria. You can easily get a job here. You can be my guest. 1500E per month is what you’ll get promissed. 2/3 months driving in Europe, 2/3 weeks leisure in Bulgaria. But just before You can start driving for Us, You’ll have to sign this piece of paper thingy, that You had already received 2500E in advance. Then you start working, surprisingly no money coming to your bank account. You have to pay road taxes out of your pocket to get home, and there appears to be a funny calculation in the contract, that shows that the tractor drinks 35 litres per 100 km, when it actually does at least 37. Then what are you going to do next? …oh and you are paid 150E per month according to the contract. :open_mouth: …and the chief of the PD is a friend of Ours. :open_mouth:
This is the real deal in Bulgaria. There is a black list of the BG employers on the net and this is a standart procedure.

Third, I would like to appologize for being self-invited here, but I read that it was like a round table or something, and I was thinking, if King Arthur’s knights were of Sarmatian/Proto-Bulgarian origin, most probably, I supposed there might still be a place for me there. Cheers!!! By the way, there used to be a Celtic Kingdom in our lands. For good or bad reason, I had chosen English to be my primary subject in Highschool. That’s why I start from here. I speak/write Russian and German too, but the possibility to look for a job in Russia has never crossed my mind.

So, what do you say? UK, or Deutschland?

Please, presume that I really have to extract my 2 years old daughter and my wife from out pitiful excuse for a country. Do you need reasons? I’ll give you numbers! The minimal salary is 145E per month. Prices (food) - similar to these in Germany. Baby food - twice the price :open_mouth: Clothes, same thing, you pay double for Chinese fake sh… The regular salary in my home town is 200E-250E. Bear Grylls should make a whole new series, about Ultimate Survival here. If this ain’t enough, then what would you say about that our Prime Minister is a…fireman?! Our Minister of Internal Affairs is a…teacher of physical education. Both involved in organised crime, state built structures. Yet it’s been the best government we’ve had until the “democratic” changes in 1989 muhahahaah!

I say Deutschland!

44 Tonne Ton:
I say Deutschland!

Yep! As you speak German! :wink:

Mein Deutsch ist nicht als gut als mein English. :frowning: I have studied German fo 8 years, but every time we started from the alphabet, with a new teacher. 7 different teachers for 8 years. Education in BG is not what it used to be, anymore. It gets worse too. It’s going to be easy for me to remember what I’ve learnt, though. My grammar was perfect, but I didn’t know many German words.

What’s the current situation in the UK? Is it easy to get a job in trucking? Are there many unemployed drivers or not? And I was wondering, if a Brittish truck runs to Continental Europe and back, on which side is the steering wheel? Do long-haul companies use trucks with left-side steering wheels? I’m just curious. It would be a good idea to use a Mclaren F1 cockpit, dont you think? :sunglasses:

Bulgar, Bulgar!:
Mein Deutsch ist nicht als gut als mein English. :frowning: I have studied German fo 8 years, but every time we started from the alphabet, with a new teacher. 7 different teachers for 8 years. Education in BG is not what it used to be, anymore. It gets worse too. It’s going to be easy for me to remember what I’ve learnt, though. My grammar was perfect, but I didn’t know many German words.

What’s the current situation in the UK? Is it easy to get a job in trucking? Are there many unemployed drivers or not? And I was wondering, if a Brittish truck runs to Continental Europe and back, on which side is the steering wheel? Do long-haul companies use trucks with left-side steering wheels? I’m just curious. It would be a good idea to use a Mclaren F1 cockpit, dont you think? :sunglasses:

Where I work, some of the units are left hand drive, and some are right hand drive. The majority are right hand drive though, and some of those are used on continental work but mostly they use the lhd units for the continent and F1 work (which are the only units which have french registrations for some reason).

Personally, as someone who works for a firm that has already employed four Bulgars, I would say… Our four Bulgars are the laziest ■■■■■■■■ I have ever come across!!!

I wish to make it known that I consider the post above to be totally out of order. That goes beyond a bit of banter IMO.

Pete :laughing: :laughing:

44 Tonne Ton:
I say Deutschland!

+1 :laughing:

I must agree with TheBear that there are lots of lazy BG drivers, but most of them are the same old drivers, who began their careers as drivers when everything was state property. The situtation then was very different. The drivers were stealing fuel from the trucks and the managers were stealing money. The cooks were stealing food. Everybody was stealing something. After the “democratic” changes in 1989 those who had stolen most money became owners of the companies, built by the Bulgarian people. And now Bulgarian “businesmen” are mostly thieves or criminals. Our politicians are all traitors. The Communist Party has evolved in many different parties. As a matter of fact there is no choice for us Bulgarians. Honest men are not allowed in politics. All of our politicians are communists, or ancestors of communists, so it doesn’t matter who do you vote for. They keep on steeling.
Soon there will be nothing left to steel. After a few years 1 working man will support 4 or 5 retired. I would like to observe this situation from a safe distance. :sunglasses:

I’m not lazy, my personal record is teaching 34-35 guys to drive a car for two and a half months. My first hour began at 7.00 am and the last hour ended at 10.30-11.00 pm. 15-16 different guys a day except Sundays. I had prevented at least one car crash every hour.

There is a black sheep in every flock. What about these Bulgarians in your firm, TheBear? Are they drivers or what? Are they still working there?

Peter Smythe:
I wish to make it known that I consider the post above to be totally out of order. That goes beyond a bit of banter IMO.

Pete :laughing: :laughing:

I have to agree with Peter on this, banter is one thing but this goes beyond banter.

I personally do not think it appropriate to insult a nation because of the odd personal experience, if that is the case i would have to say that British drivers are some of the most uncurteuos, rude, arogant and lazy drivers i have ever met. I say this as British drivers are what i encounter the most.

There is good and bad in everyone irrelative of nationality and i have been helped so far by more foreign drivers with advice etc that i have met than i have by British drivers who always seem to be far to self important to help.

I like a bit of banter as much as the next guy but insulting a nation is not acceptable.

Madguy. :smiling_imp:

Then, Madguy, I suggest you go work for a firm that employs Bulgars!! How three of them still work for us is beyond me … any other firm would have sacked them ages ago. We call them Daddy, Baby (Daddys son), Cousin and Uncle. Daddy had 7 blameworthy accidents in his first year including the distinction of having both the A34 and the A3 closed while the messes were cleared up. Only one of them speaks decent English so what happens?? They get all the one pick up, one drop work while the mugs that speak English get the four pick ups and 2 droppers. Cousin was working on the tanks with me for a while and I got sick to death of cleaning up his mess ups. One of his majors was leaving the south coast early Monday morning for Liverpool and still not being tipped Tuesday evening because of his stupidity. I ended up having to divert and give him my nice clean tank and sort his load out for him.
See what Bulgar Bulgar says in his first few lines in his reply to me … he has described these four perfectly!!!

By the way, MG, I have done an awful lot of miles around Europe in the 31 years since I passed my test and have met all different nationalities and had some great times. I am not insulting a “nation because of the odd personal experience”. It is also because of the drivel you posted that I avoid, at all costs, UK drivers when abroad and in this country. Unless I know a driver from previous experience, then I avoid like the plague as a vast majority are full of ■■■■ … just like you!

TheBear:
Then, Madguy, I suggest you go work for a firm that employs Bulgars!! How three of them still work for us is beyond me … any other firm would have sacked them ages ago. We call them Daddy, Baby (Daddys son), Cousin and Uncle. Daddy had 7 blameworthy accidents in his first year including the distinction of having both the A34 and the A3 closed while the messes were cleared up. Only one of them speaks decent English so what happens?? They get all the one pick up, one drop work while the mugs that speak English get the four pick ups and 2 droppers. Cousin was working on the tanks with me for a while and I got sick to death of cleaning up his mess ups. One of his majors was leaving the south coast early Monday morning for Liverpool and still not being tipped Tuesday evening because of his stupidity. I ended up having to divert and give him my nice clean tank and sort his load out for him.
See what Bulgar Bulgar says in his first few lines in his reply to me … he has described these four perfectly!!!

By the way, MG, I have done an awful lot of miles around Europe in the 31 years since I passed my test and have met all different nationalities and had some great times. I am not insulting a “nation because of the odd personal experience”. It is also because of the drivel you posted that I avoid, at all costs, UK drivers when abroad and in this country. Unless I know a driver from previous experience, then I avoid like the plague as a vast majority are full of [zb] … just like you!

You havent driven for 31 years, you cant get up the A34 without falling asleep, i clocked you on saturday morning sat in a layby snoozing just after the M3 you lazy git :laughing:

TheBear:
Then, Madguy, I suggest you go work for a firm that employs Bulgars!! How three of them still work for us is beyond me … any other firm would have sacked them ages ago. We call them Daddy, Baby (Daddys son), Cousin and Uncle. Daddy had 7 blameworthy accidents in his first year including the distinction of having both the A34 and the A3 closed while the messes were cleared up. Only one of them speaks decent English so what happens?? They get all the one pick up, one drop work while the mugs that speak English get the four pick ups and 2 droppers. Cousin was working on the tanks with me for a while and I got sick to death of cleaning up his mess ups. One of his majors was leaving the south coast early Monday morning for Liverpool and still not being tipped Tuesday evening because of his stupidity. I ended up having to divert and give him my nice clean tank and sort his load out for him.
See what Bulgar Bulgar says in his first few lines in his reply to me … he has described these four perfectly!!!

By the way, MG, I have done an awful lot of miles around Europe in the 31 years since I passed my test and have met all different nationalities and had some great times. I am not insulting a “nation because of the odd personal experience”. It is also because of the drivel you posted that I avoid, at all costs, UK drivers when abroad and in this country. Unless I know a driver from previous experience, then I avoid like the plague as a vast majority are full of [zb] … just like you!

You say i’m full of **** i take it you havnt read you post back to yourself, you exactly the type of driver im talking about, ( look at me, ive drive all over Europe, im a big man behind the wheel) your not the only one that drove all over Europe, some of us did it with people on board not just boxes, ( just in case you dont get it, thats a bit more responsible that worrying about your next cup of tea and if you remembered your yorkie bar)

Your the kind of Britian that makes me ashamed to be British, and as always your a big man hiding behind your keyboard, and yes of course i’m going to bow down to your superiour knowledge and big man words…why dont you p**s off to Australia and drive the real big trucks, believe me you wont be missed here.

Madguy. :smiling_imp: