Walking Out - Need Advice Quickly!

Send in the recording with the resignation.this twunt needs to be stopped .typical jobsworth coward by sounds of it.

There’s an app…

Called ACR. It records all calls you make and recieve on yer mobile. It does struggle with bluetooth but, I think if you upgrade and pay the £2.99 extra that overcomes the problem.

If I’m on hourly pay I always max out my hours. Weather that be sitting on a bay for a break meaning I get to the next job so I get a next job or have a sleep in a layby. I do what’s right for me. Like a old boss once told me maximise your potential earnings. Whenever I was on a bay longer than 3 hours I had a 15 hour split shift that day meaning 73 hours pay that week. And I still managed to sleep. Other drivers would call me all sorts of names for doing it but when they seen my pay they moaned even more.

I if I’m doing a night out I always/95% of the time start work the next day 11 hours after I finish if not after 9 hours. If it’s longer than 9 hours while on a night out I I make it known and if ever I’m at home I say I’m not reducing while at home and have a full 11 off.

Don’t get me wrong I can make things work to my advantage but I also bend slightly for my old boss

The deed has been done, I’m well chuffed about how it went. He stood there humiliated, with his colleagues trying to hide their grins, and I left with my head held high. Typical bully. A hard man over the phone, but the ■■■■■■ stood there and ■■■■ himself when I screamed his name. I’ll be working for myself now, after some well-earned relaxation today.

I do have his calls recorded as a matter of fact, some of them comedy gold.

As for the break on a bay, it’s pretty much like said, you’d go into an RDC, tip or load, the phone the office to give them an ETA for your next job, and say you’ll need a break on-top of that. Then they’d kick-off and say “why do you need a break, you’ve been on a bay for an hour…” and so forth. Then they deduct 45 minutes off your total hours, as they claim it’s a “legal requirement”. So they expect you to work 13 hours, and be paid for 12:15. I don’t think so! I’m not free to dispose of my time when I’m trapped on a bay, in an RDC surrounded by 10ft steel fencing and CCTV. Death row inmates can dispose of their time more freely than I! I know there’s the element of helping your boss out, but would you want to help a bunch of tossers like these out, and then they deduct you for it, so you’re working for nothing? Nah!

If your breaks are deducted then always take them and in a place you want. I.e. After 3 hours if it’s the only place to get food or a wash / shower then take another if needed. Fooook em bod :laughing: :laughing:

Fair play pal .onwards and upwards

Drift:
Get as many higher up office bods email addresses in the company as you can then copy then and your boss in, he can’t tear that up and make out you just walked :wink:

Different industry but similar method for similar reasons - someone who worked in the same firm as my wife wrote a" blunt and descriptive" email for her resignation.

She also addressed it to every client of the company,

Caused more than a little problem for the company as it described how the staff were pressured into basically lying to clients.

I did have a copy that my wife emailed me but can’t find it now. It was almost beautiful to read as this woman really gave it both barrels.

Rottweiler22:
The deed has been done, I’m well chuffed about how it went. He stood there humiliated, with his colleagues trying to hide their grins, and I left with my head held high. Typical bully. A hard man over the phone, but the ■■■■■■ stood there and [zb] himself when I screamed his name. I’ll be working for myself now, after some well-earned relaxation today.

I do have his calls recorded as a matter of fact, some of them comedy gold.

As for the break on a bay, it’s pretty much like said, you’d go into an RDC, tip or load, the phone the office to give them an ETA for your next job, and say you’ll need a break on-top of that. Then they’d kick-off and say “why do you need a break, you’ve been on a bay for an hour…” and so forth. Then they deduct 45 minutes off your total hours, as they claim it’s a “legal requirement”. So they expect you to work 13 hours, and be paid for 12:15. I don’t think so! I’m not free to dispose of my time when I’m trapped on a bay, in an RDC surrounded by 10ft steel fencing and CCTV. Death row inmates can dispose of their time more freely than I! I know there’s the element of helping your boss out, but would you want to help a bunch of tossers like these out, and then they deduct you for it, so you’re working for nothing? Nah!

Good man, I have read this with interest. I was going to give some advice and relate about how I had done things in the past, but it is not my place to do so, so I kept quiet, as I believe everybody should do what feels right for them.
I would not even treat my dog the way in which you have been treated, people in a position of authority need to realise that we, as individuals are human and deserve to be treated as such, people do not earn respect, they should be treated and treat others with respect from the off, it makes for a more productive environment for everybody…All that each one of us wants to do is a good job whenever we can…We should all be helping each other, the place would be so much more happier if that was to happen.

Good on you mate. Stick it to the man.

Love it :wink:

Conor:
Be careful as it isn’t legal under UK employment law and they have the right to sue you for losses arising from it, basically the cost of employing someone from an agency to cover the notice period.

are you sure that’s under uk law or was it a civil case? the last time I looked at losses incurred to a business due to an employee, they could not recoup them from the employee concerned unless it was a criminal act such as theft, and the usual route for compensation. granted this was in a different work sector, and a while ago.

Rottweiler22:
… Then they deduct 45 minutes off your total hours, as they claim it’s a “legal requirement”. So they expect you to work 13 hours, and be paid for 12:15. I don’t think so! I’m not free to dispose of my time when I’m trapped on a bay, in an RDC surrounded by 10ft steel fencing and CCTV. Death row inmates can dispose of their time more freely than I!

Your argument seems to be whether (or not) you’re paid for your breaks.
It’s a fair point, because some firms let you have paid breaks and some don’t.

However, you do seem to have misunderstood one thing… the requirement to be able to dispose of your own time as you see fit applies to rest, NOT breaks.

A break is a period that you use for recuperation, but there’s no requirement for you to be free to dispose of your own time whilst you’re on a break.

In the drivers hours Regs, the words “rest” and “break” have completely different meanings.

‘break’ means any period during which a driver may not carry out any driving or any other work and which is used exclusively for recuperation;

‘rest’ means any uninterrupted period during which a driver may freely dispose of his time;

Rottweiler22:
The deed has been done, I’m well chuffed about how it went. He stood there humiliated, with his colleagues trying to hide their grins, and I left with my head held high. Typical bully. A hard man over the phone, but the ■■■■■■ stood there and [zb] himself when I screamed his name. I’ll be working for myself now, after some well-earned relaxation today.

and will you sit on a bay for 3 hours then pull of and take a 45 when your working for yourself? :unamused:

dieseldave:

Rottweiler22:
… Then they deduct 45 minutes off your total hours, as they claim it’s a “legal requirement”. So they expect you to work 13 hours, and be paid for 12:15. I don’t think so! I’m not free to dispose of my time when I’m trapped on a bay, in an RDC surrounded by 10ft steel fencing and CCTV. Death row inmates can dispose of their time more freely than I!

Your argument seems to be whether (or not) you’re paid for your breaks.
It’s a fair point, because some firms let you have paid breaks and some don’t.

However, you do seem to have misunderstood one thing… the requirement to be able to dispose of your own time as you see fit applies to rest, NOT breaks.

A break is a period that you use for recuperation, but there’s no requirement for you to be free to dispose of your own time whilst you’re on a break.

In the drivers hours Regs, the words “rest” and “break” have completely different meanings.

‘break’ means any period during which a driver may not carry out any driving or any other work and which is used exclusively for recuperation;

‘rest’ means any uninterrupted period during which a driver may freely dispose of his time;

But is he also saying that because he is not getting paid breaks he needs to be free to dispose of his time as he sees fit but if he’s getting paid he could have a break anywhere.

Rottweiler22:
The deed has been done, I’m well chuffed about how it went. He stood there humiliated, with his colleagues trying to hide their grins, and I left with my head held high. Typical bully. A hard man over the phone, but the ■■■■■■ stood there and [zb] himself when I screamed his name. I’ll be working for myself now, after some well-earned relaxation today.

I do have his calls recorded as a matter of fact, some of them comedy gold.

As for the break on a bay, it’s pretty much like said, you’d go into an RDC, tip or load, the phone the office to give them an ETA for your next job, and say you’ll need a break on-top of that. Then they’d kick-off and say “why do you need a break, you’ve been on a bay for an hour…” and so forth. Then they deduct 45 minutes off your total hours, as they claim it’s a “legal requirement”. So they expect you to work 13 hours, and be paid for 12:15. I don’t think so! I’m not free to dispose of my time when I’m trapped on a bay, in an RDC surrounded by 10ft steel fencing and CCTV. Death row inmates can dispose of their time more freely than I! I know there’s the element of helping your boss out, but would you want to help a bunch of tossers like these out, and then they deduct you for it, so you’re working for nothing? Nah!

What goes on there sounds like a certain firm that has a depot in Scarborough and York, if not I can’t believe there are other firms out there doing this.
That place went through 33 drivers in a space of 12 months at one site and maybe more at the other because of this type of treatment to staff, it certainly was not because of all those drivers being crap at their job, although a few was.
Is it any wonder companies can’t attract drivers these days, it isn’t a shortage of drivers in the industry, it’s a shortage of drivers willing to go work for these shysters, who end up having to fill seats with agency drivers.

Rottweiler22:
The deed has been done, I’m well chuffed about how it went. He stood there humiliated, with his colleagues trying to hide their grins, and I left with my head held high. Typical bully. A hard man over the phone, but the ■■■■■■ stood there and [zb] himself when I screamed his name. I’ll be working for myself now, after some well-earned relaxation today.

I do have his calls recorded as a matter of fact, some of them comedy gold.

As for the break on a bay, it’s pretty much like said, you’d go into an RDC, tip or load, the phone the office to give them an ETA for your next job, and say you’ll need a break on-top of that. Then they’d kick-off and say “why do you need a break, you’ve been on a bay for an hour…” and so forth. Then they deduct 45 minutes off your total hours, as they claim it’s a “legal requirement”. So they expect you to work 13 hours, and be paid for 12:15. I don’t think so! I’m not free to dispose of my time when I’m trapped on a bay, in an RDC surrounded by 10ft steel fencing and CCTV. Death row inmates can dispose of their time more freely than I! I know there’s the element of helping your boss out, but would you want to help a bunch of tossers like these out, and then they deduct you for it, so you’re working for nothing? Nah!

Good job. And I agree with you on the break thing.

As it happens I am paid straight through so I don’t mind sticking it on break when on a bay, suits me because personally after sitting in a RDC for 2/3 hours I just want to crack on. However, if your not being paid they should be planning for 45 minutes of complete down time during the day.