Star down under.:
No good for you Carryfast, it requires the driver to load and unload the vehicle and precludes distance work.
To be fair also no chance of turning up at the place, to do what was described on the phone as a distance class 1 trailer swap trunk run and being told the moped is outside and your first burger delivery is the bag on the counter waiting to go.
Carryfast:
tmcassett:
Still proving the point that you are totally clueless - “most” drivers don’t have jobs that are worse than fast food deliveries.Clued up enough to know that fast food delivery work isn’t multi drop unless the last drop likes their burgers etc cold.
Also obviously no need to lie about the job to find someone to do it if the lined up mopeds and riders waiting for a job are anything to go by.No ‘driver shortage’ there.
Suggest you read the OP’s comments again.He actually walked away from the job rather than take the money.I’m not surprised I’d have done the same.
Nope, no need to read the OP again, I read it and as far as the OP goes yes that is wrong and should not be happening.
As far as you go, I was simply pointing out that yet again you have no idea what you are talking about! I made the point in my last reply that “most” drivers don’t have jobs that are worse than delivering fast food. You of course would not know this because you are unemployable in the lorry world and have been for a very long time because of your general attitude.
And the fact he’s clearly monumentally lazy 
tmcassett:
Carryfast:
tmcassett:
Still proving the point that you are totally clueless - “most” drivers don’t have jobs that are worse than fast food deliveries.Clued up enough to know that fast food delivery work isn’t multi drop unless the last drop likes their burgers etc cold.
Also obviously no need to lie about the job to find someone to do it if the lined up mopeds and riders waiting for a job are anything to go by.No ‘driver shortage’ there.
Suggest you read the OP’s comments again.He actually walked away from the job rather than take the money.I’m not surprised I’d have done the same.Nope, no need to read the OP again, I read it and as far as the OP goes yes that is wrong and should not be happening.
As far as you go, I was simply pointing out that yet again you have no idea what you are talking about! I made the point in my last reply that “most” drivers don’t have jobs that are worse than delivering fast food. You of course would not know this because you are unemployable in the lorry world and have been for a very long time because of your general attitude.
As I read it they tried to stitch up the OP with zb multi drop work by describing it as trunking.So you’re saying that the OP is right and that’s wrong.
Then you say I’m unemployable for agreeing with the OP.
There is no ‘driver/rider shortage’ in the fast food delivery sector.
Unemployable people don’t generally hold down a job for 15 years and 2 jobs for 10 years before that and get commendations for their work.
They also don’t generally get chucked the keys of a proper drawbar outfit to drive 400 miles in a shift 5 nights per week towards the end of that.
They also generally get sacked within a year and not for medical reasons.
But you obviously wouldn’t know that bearing in mind that your status in the industry seems to reflect your aspirations, driving abilities and resulting employment options.
The burger delivery riders are probably laughing at you and if they aren’t they should be and you know it.
Those justified feelings of inferiority in your case would explain your laughable misrepresentations directed at me.The truth is you’re in the sector of the industry that suits your abilities and that’s where you’ll stay and all you deserve.
Just as well in an industry which has increasingly less to offer those who aspire to anything better.
So ironically yes your employabilty will be off the scale in that environment just like those burger delivery riders’.
switchlogic:
And the fact he’s clearly monumentally lazy
That would mean every train driver is lazy and artics and demounts and containers were designed because of ‘lazy’ drivers.
So you’re saying that the OP is ‘lazy’ for walking away from crap quality work being falsely described as something better.
Carryfast:
As I read it they tried to stitch up the OP with zb multi drop work by describing it as trunking.So you’re saying that the OP is right and that’s wrong.
Then you say I’m unemployable for agreeing with the OP.
Unemployable people don’t generally hold down a job for 15 years and 2 jobs for 10 years before that and get commendations for their work.
They also don’t generally get chucked the keys of a proper drawbar outfit to drive 400 miles in a shift 5 nights per week towards the end of that.
And yet you still haven’t been able to get a job for for over 20 years! 
Carryfast:
But you obviously wouldn’t know that bearing in mind that your status in the industry seems to reflect your aspirations, driving abilities and resulting employment options.
The burger delivery riders are probably laughing at you and if they aren’t they should be and you know it.
Those justified feelings of inferiority in your case would explain your laughable misrepresentations directed at me.The truth is you’re in the sector of the industry that suits your abilities and that’s where you’ll stay and all you deserve.
Just as well in an industry which has increasingly less to offer those who aspire to anything better.
So ironically yes your employabilty will be off the scale in that environment just like those burger delivery riders’.
Waaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. Yeah I’m sure those burger delivery riders are laughing at me in my cushy, well paid, unionised job for a high street retailer. As you say though - I will be staying here and I would be an idiot for going anywhere else.
Edit: Personally, I am not knocking fast food delivery drivers because I have respect for anyone that goes out and works for a living, irrelevant of what that job is or entails.
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
And the fact he’s clearly monumentally lazyThat would mean every train driver is lazy and artics and demounts and containers were designed because of ‘lazy’ drivers.
So you’re saying that the OP is ‘lazy’ for walking away from crap quality work being falsely described as something better.
Nope, just you. Not commenting about anyone else. Just you, someone who gave up working in his early 40’s. 
Carryfast:
tmcassett:
Carryfast:
tmcassett:
Still proving the point that you are totally clueless - “most” drivers don’t have jobs that are worse than fast food deliveries.Clued up enough to know that fast food delivery work isn’t multi drop unless the last drop likes their burgers etc cold.
Also obviously no need to lie about the job to find someone to do it if the lined up mopeds and riders waiting for a job are anything to go by.No ‘driver shortage’ there.
Suggest you read the OP’s comments again.He actually walked away from the job rather than take the money.I’m not surprised I’d have done the same.Nope, no need to read the OP again, I read it and as far as the OP goes yes that is wrong and should not be happening.
As far as you go, I was simply pointing out that yet again you have no idea what you are talking about! I made the point in my last reply that “most” drivers don’t have jobs that are worse than delivering fast food. You of course would not know this because you are unemployable in the lorry world and have been for a very long time because of your general attitude.
As I read it they tried to stitch up the OP with zb multi drop work by describing it as trunking.So you’re saying that the OP is right and that’s wrong.
Then you say I’m unemployable for agreeing with the OP.
There is no ‘driver/rider shortage’ in the fast food delivery sector.
Unemployable people don’t generally hold down a job for 15 years and 2 jobs for 10 years before that and get commendations for their work.
They also don’t generally get chucked the keys of a proper drawbar outfit to drive 400 miles in a shift 5 nights per week towards the end of that.
They also generally get sacked within a year and not for medical reasons.
But you obviously wouldn’t know that bearing in mind that your status in the industry seems to reflect your aspirations, driving abilities and resulting employment options.
The burger delivery riders are probably laughing at you and if they aren’t they should be and you know it.
Those justified feelings of inferiority in your case would explain your laughable misrepresentations directed at me.The truth is you’re in the sector of the industry that suits your abilities and that’s where you’ll stay and all you deserve.
Just as well in an industry which has increasingly less to offer those who aspire to anything better.
So ironically yes your employabilty will be off the scale in that environment just like those burger delivery riders’.
Good work Mr Cassett! You’ve started to get to him, that impenetrable self confidence I’ve never managed to dent
Carryfast:
Unemployable people don’t generally hold down a job for 15 years and 2 jobs for 10 years before that and get commendations for their work.
They also don’t generally get chucked the keys of a proper drawbar outfit to drive 400 miles in a shift 5 nights per week towards the end of that.
No one starts off unemployable, but you admit yourself you were pushed out by UPS and even the Union so I think it’s fair to say you ended up that way. In addition to the many many Euro jobs I assume you went for
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
So you’re saying that the OP is ‘lazy’ for walking away from crap quality work being falsely described as something better.Nope, just you. Not commenting about anyone else. Just you, someone who gave up working in his early 40’s.
Ironically I actually didn’t walk away from an agency job in similar circumstances to the OP when with hindshight I should have done.
Also think I’ve posted enough evidence to prove that by definition I also didn’t ‘give up working’.
Spine wrecked by an industry that uses drivers as labourers instead of drivers, because it want to minimise truck miles, then whines about a ‘driver shortage’.
Reading these posts are better than watching a soap opera!!! Cat fight… oh thats women!
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
So you’re saying that the OP is ‘lazy’ for walking away from crap quality work being falsely described as something better.Nope, just you. Not commenting about anyone else. Just you, someone who gave up working in his early 40’s.
Ironically I actually didn’t walk away from an agency job in similar circumstances to the OP when with hindshight I should have done.
Also think I’ve posted enough evidence to prove that by definition I also didn’t ‘give up working’.
Spine wrecked by an industry that uses drivers as labourers instead of drivers, because it want to minimise truck miles, then whines about a ‘driver shortage’.
You gave up working chap as I and everyone else has told you over and over and over and over again manual labour hasn’t been the norm in this industry ever, let alone past 20 years. You just walked away in a huff, thought ‘I’ll show them’ by not driving trucks again only to realise you ffed up massively and now regret it. Until recently I assumed from someone whinging so much you’d lost your licence on medical grounds but seems that’s not remotely true? You just gave up. Resigned yourself to a life ■■■■■■■■ on the internet.
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
So you’re saying that the OP is ‘lazy’ for walking away from crap quality work being falsely described as something better.Nope, just you. Not commenting about anyone else. Just you, someone who gave up working in his early 40’s.
Ironically I actually didn’t walk away from an agency job in similar circumstances to the OP when with hindshight I should have done.
Also think I’ve posted enough evidence to prove that by definition I also didn’t ‘give up working’.
Spine wrecked by an industry that uses drivers as labourers instead of drivers, because it want to minimise truck miles, then whines about a ‘driver shortage’.You gave up working chap as I and everyone else has told you over and over and over and over again manual labour hasn’t been the norm in this industry ever, let alone past 20 years. You just walked away in a huff, thought ‘I’ll show them’ by not driving trucks again only to realise you ffed up massively and now regret it. Until recently I assumed from someone whinging so much you’d lost your licence on medical grounds but seems that’s not remotely true? You just gave up. Resigned yourself to a life ■■■■■■■■ on the internet.
Handball is definitely the norm in the case of operations like UPS.
Expecting drivers to be involved in such warehouse/hub operations goes with the territory of 9 hours + pay for 4 hours driving max.
I was ‘driving trucks’ probably involving more driving skills than you’ll ever know.
The employer decides who is fit enough to employ and who isn’t by way of HSE risk assessments, not the DVLA.
So assuming you’ve got your car licence back it’s time for you to get back to work and stop sponging off the state.Bearing in mind that loss of driving licence doesn’t preclude anyone from DWP job search requirements.
I’m guessing that the OP didn’t walk away from the misrepresented job in this case because it was stated as hand ball work.
I’m also guessing that the job was mistrepresented because most drivers prefer trunking v multi drop crap regardless.
Carryfast:
because most drivers prefer trunking v multi drop crap regardless.
Says the fountain of knowledge who hasn’t had a lorry driving job where the year starts with a 2!
Carryfast:
because most drivers prefer trunking v multi drop crap regardless.
Though the evidence might suggest otherwise. It is at best 50/50. Every load that is trunked into a RDC will be delivered by a multi drop driver. One who had the choice of what type of work they do.
Carryfast:
Handball is definitely the norm in the case of operations like UPS.
Expecting drivers to be involved in such warehouse/hub operations goes with the territory of 9 hours + pay for 4 hours driving max.
The norm for you at one company 20 years ago for the few months you did it. Yes other members……’months’, he did it months. Not years, not decades, a few months
Carryfast:
I was ‘driving trucks’ probably involving more driving skills than you’ll ever know.
Go you, you amazing man. Must bug you that I’ve had a career that you can only dream of, with 20+ more interesting years to come while you potter around doing bugger all in a tedious march to the grave.
Carryfast:
So assuming you’ve got your car licence back it’s time for you to get back to work and stop sponging off the state.Bearing in mind that loss of driving licence doesn’t preclude anyone from DWP job search requirements.
Ironic for a man who’s spent a lifetime skiving off work Nice to see I’ve finally got to you though
(I’ve an interview lined up this week, unlike you I didn’t decide to retire to a life of leisure. Fact is chances are I’ve worked more hours at age 44 that you would in several lifetimes, What with you being lazy whinger and all. Plus add to that when I get my HGV back I can pick one of several jobs*. Can you?)
God bless my lazy friend. X
*not a boast, most drivers who’ve been round the block a few times just have to pick up the phone
LazyDriver:
Carryfast:
because most drivers prefer trunking v multi drop crap regardless.Though the evidence might suggest otherwise. It is at best 50/50. Every load that is trunked into a RDC will be delivered by a multi drop driver. One who had the choice of what type of work they do.
The ‘facts’ are that multi drop work is being advertised as trunking.
The OP rightly walked away from such an example.
Agencies and clients are prepared to pay class 1 rates to fill 7.5t 18t vacancies.Obviously in a desperate attempt to circumvent the fact that most drivers get their class 1 so as not to do the type of work wchich makes up most of the 7.5t and 18t sectors.
Obviously now trying the plan B of the same work being put on class 1 trucks and call it trunking.
In addition to the fact that even some ‘trunking’ work has been degraded by the change to hub systems providing employers with the scope and incentive for using drivers for ‘other duties’ during the resulting downtime.
switchlogic:
*not a boast, most drivers who’ve been round the block a few times just have to pick up the phone
You mean round the block and off the road, this time only driving a micro car and into hospital and licence gone as a result.
It says a lot about your definition of ‘round the block’ when in your case that obviously doesn’t include roping and sheeting a flat or using a tilt or any liking for driving a constant mesh manual box.As for your drawbar reversing abilities would have to see those first to make a judement.
But I realise the job of a ‘driver’ is no longer about the ability to drive a truck which is the point.
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
*not a boast, most drivers who’ve been round the block a few times just have to pick up the phoneYou mean round the block and off the road, this time only driving a micro car and into hospital and licence gone as a result.
It says a lot about your definition of ‘round the block’ when in your case that obviously doesn’t include roping and sheeting a flat or using a tilt or any liking for driving a constant mesh manual box.As for your drawbar reversing abilities would have to see those first to make a judement.
But I realise the job of a ‘driver’ is no longer about the ability to drive a truck which is the point.
Keep trying chap, your previous hateful bigotry a few years ago towards me and people like me didn’t get to me so not entirely sure why you think bringing up accidents you only know about and have seen pictures of because I told you about them . But to clarify 1. Yeah you’re probably technically a better driver than me, that wouldn’t be hard, but I’m certainly a better employee, which is why my level of experience knocks yours into a cocked hat because you were driven out of UPS. 2. And no my round the block is a modern round the block, as I didn’t give up in the late 90’s. Bringing up roping and sheeting flats, tilts and constant mesh gearboxes just shows how incredibly out of touch you are, inevitable for a man who’s not worked in this industry this century. I have however done plenty of flat work and driven many manuals. Probably done more flat work than you and likely driven a much greater variety of manuals. They were still the norm when I started.
Mostly, but not entirely.
But yeah, my round the block involves tankers, fridges (double deck/single deck/hanging/Polarstream (anyone remember them?)), skips, demount drawbars, curtainsiders (double/single), boxes, tippers, ejectors, flats, containers, euro liners to name a couple. Not to mention buses and coaches. How about you?
