Rhythm Thief:
That said, if the gap between you and the truck in front is barely big enough to squeeze a VOSA Galaxy into, it’s arguably too small in the first place.
captain birdseye with his binos on the a17 at sleaford walks out into the middle of the road too stop you and he dont believe in giving much warning sometimes
Reubs766:
martinviking:
I came out of Heinz/'Wan’kantons, Wigan, last week, rolled over the weigh bridge (with my lift axle up) & my drive axle was 9590kg (2 tons overweight, from memory I’m sure the axles are plated at 7500kg each)
My gross weight was only 31990kg.What were you driving? I tend to find most drive axles are plated at well in excess if 10 tons. My Stralis drive axle is plated at 12,500kg.
Also, how could an 18ton rigid have 2 axles plated at 7500kg?
MAN TGX 26.440
I was just guessing (I did say from memory)not got the wagon at home with me.
At least I was guessing on the cautious side. lol.
On checking the MAN PDF, the drive axles are plated at around 11500kg, front axle =8000 kg & the midlift =7100 kg
ROG:
D’ya not?:
Weighing axle weights from under the tarmac, when vehicles are traveling at speed, sounds much like a MMTM story.
Is there any real hard evidence these exist?
Yeah…but is there any real hard evidence?
To be honest I aint buying what they’re selling. lets say there are censors on the surface…they wouldn’t last very long, due to constant traffic riding over them.
And if they were under the surface, there would need to be some flexibility in the tarmac, and I’m pretty sure there isn’t.
But if enough folks believe it, they’re more likely to keep within weight limits.
And I still doubt the premiss that weight can be calculated at speed.
scotstrucker:
Rhythm Thief:
That said, if the gap between you and the truck in front is barely big enough to squeeze a VOSA Galaxy into, it’s arguably too small in the first place.captain birdseye with his binos on the a17 at sleaford walks out into the middle of the road too stop you and he dont believe in giving much warning sometimes
Captain Birdseye with his X Ray Specs won’t catch me again because now I divert off the A17 and go through Cranwell. 
scotstrucker:
Rhythm Thief:
That said, if the gap between you and the truck in front is barely big enough to squeeze a VOSA Galaxy into, it’s arguably too small in the first place.captain birdseye with his binos on the a17 at sleaford walks out into the middle of the road too stop you and he dont believe in giving much warning sometimes
hit the txxt, not your fault if he stepped out
D’ya not?:
ROG:
D’ya not?:
Weighing axle weights from under the tarmac, when vehicles are traveling at speed, sounds much like a MMTM story.
Is there any real hard evidence these exist?Yeah…but is there any real hard evidence?
To be honest I aint buying what they’re selling. lets say there are censors on the surface…they wouldn’t last very long, due to constant traffic riding over them.
And if they were under the surface, there would need to be some flexibility in the tarmac, and I’m pretty sure there isn’t.
But if enough folks believe it, they’re more likely to keep within weight limits.
And I still doubt the premiss that weight can be calculated at speed.
yes they definately do exist, a friend of mine had a great job last year, driving round the country loaded with ballast weights to calibrate them! he would spend his time running over the sensors at 56, carry on to the next junction or roundabout then come back and do it all again until the engineer was satisfied!
I just cannot understand the problem drivers have with being stopped, wether by the police or VOSA.
Let them stop you, be polite, answer questions politely and your on your way.
rambo19:
I just cannot understand the problem drivers have with being stopped, wether by the police or VOSA.Let them stop you, be polite, answer questions politely and your on your way.
The first line of your signature gives the clue.
martinviking:
Reubs766:
martinviking:
I came out of Heinz/'Wan’kantons, Wigan, last week, rolled over the weigh bridge (with my lift axle up) & my drive axle was 9590kg (2 tons overweight, from memory I’m sure the axles are plated at 7500kg each)
My gross weight was only 31990kg.What were you driving? I tend to find most drive axles are plated at well in excess if 10 tons. My Stralis drive axle is plated at 12,500kg.
Also, how could an 18ton rigid have 2 axles plated at 7500kg?
MAN TGX 26.440
I was just guessing (I did say from memory)not got the wagon at home with me.
At least I was guessing on the cautious side. lol.On checking the MAN PDF, the drive axles are plated at around 11500kg, front axle =8000 kg & the midlift =7100 kg
Might be wrong but (again from memory) that 11500 might be design weight, fairly certain legal max in UK is 10800 on MAN.
I too don’t have a problem with VOSA, always been OK with me.
Juddian:
martinviking:
Reubs766:
martinviking:
I came out of Heinz/'Wan’kantons, Wigan, last week, rolled over the weigh bridge (with my lift axle up) & my drive axle was 9590kg (2 tons overweight, from memory I’m sure the axles are plated at 7500kg each)
My gross weight was only 31990kg.What were you driving? I tend to find most drive axles are plated at well in excess if 10 tons. My Stralis drive axle is plated at 12,500kg.
Also, how could an 18ton rigid have 2 axles plated at 7500kg?
MAN TGX 26.440
I was just guessing (I did say from memory)not got the wagon at home with me.
At least I was guessing on the cautious side. lol.On checking the MAN PDF, the drive axles are plated at around 11500kg, front axle =8000 kg & the midlift =7100 kg
Might be wrong but (again from memory) that 11500 might be design weight, fairly certain legal max in UK is 10800 on MAN.
I too don’t have a problem with VOSA, always been OK with me.
I’ll try to get a picture of the plate tomorrow, it’s tucked behind the passenger seat, so you need to be an Acrobat with the vision of a 20 year old to read it. Lol.
Just a quick thought, how many people actually know the legal axle weights for the wagon they drive on a daily basis? Surely, like height of vehicle/trailer, it’s something we should all be taking note of?
Reubs766:
Just a quick thought, how many people actually know the legal axle weights for the wagon they drive on a daily basis? Surely, like height of vehicle/trailer, it’s something we should all be taking note of?
Off the top of me head…7, 5.2 or 5.4, 10.5 or 10.8, 8,8,8…i’ll check just how far out when next in the motor, you’re right though some people haven’t got a clue and could care less.
Best if you get weighed in now and again on an axle weigher at customers, useful too in getting the 5th wheel position right, its surprising the difference 2" either way makes…if only 
In practice when i get a new lorry i always spend some time setting the 5th wheel in the right place to get the right weight spread.
Generally with artics whenever possible i like to load the trailer slightly front heavy but obviously legal and sensible, better for traction and overall stability, nothing worse than the tail wagging the dog.
edit…Be interesting to compare Martin Vikings axle weights, middle tag weight saver on small wheels hence the low weight.
Well, some people just don’t have a clue what so ever, and are only interested in what the Transport Manager tells them.
I spoke to a guy recently who weighed off with a 23ton load on an artic, and his drive axle weighed 10,040kg. He was adamant he needed the entire box trailer unloaded, and then reloaded as he was apparently ‘40kg over on his drive axle’ - his TM says so. Personally, 40kg wouldn’t have bothered me, especially since it was only going 20 miles away. Anyways, I noticed he was in a Stralis like mine, and so I mentioned that his drive axle will carry a lot more than 10 ton, and questioned him if he had checked his ministry plate. He then informed me that the ministry plate is just nonsense, and that it’s what his TM says that matters.
I quickly left the conversation with the above driver. Of course, what do I know? He’s been driving wagons for a hell of a lot longer than me.
Reubs766:
Well, some people just don’t have a clue what so ever, and are only interested in what the Transport Manager tells them.I spoke to a guy recently who weighed off with a 23ton load on an artic, and his drive axle weighed 10,040kg. He was adamant he needed the entire box trailer unloaded, and then reloaded as he was apparently ‘40kg over on his drive axle’ - his TM says so. Personally, 40kg wouldn’t have bothered me, especially since it was only going 20 miles away. Anyways, I noticed he was in a Stralis like mine, and so I mentioned that his drive axle will carry a lot more than 10 ton, and questioned him if he had checked his ministry plate. He then informed me that the ministry plate is just nonsense, and that it’s what his TM says that matters.
I quickly left the conversation with the above driver. Of course, what do I know? He’s been driving wagons for a hell of a lot longer than me.
Idiots everywhere.
Even if he was over max (probably 10.5t) it might have been the case his 5th wheel was too far back and sliding it forward a couple of clicks would have shifted some weight onto the tag/steer.
You were right to walk away though, let 'em carry on in blissful ignorance.
Reubs766:
Just a quick thought, how many people actually know the legal axle weights for the wagon they drive on a daily basis? Surely, like height of vehicle/trailer, it’s something we should all be taking note of?
See my post on owner driver forum called overloaded rear lift ,how many of these are going about ?
Reubs766:
Just a quick thought, how many people actually know the legal axle weights for the wagon they drive on a daily basis? Surely, like height of vehicle/trailer, it’s something we should all be taking note of?
front 7.5 midlift 4.4 drive 10.5 height 12ft 9
Well I haven’t a clue for one! I’ve never looked. But given the high volume/low weight product carried it’s irrelevant. Last time I weighed in at a customer the whole lot was under 16 tons and that’s for a 4 axle artic (taxed for 28 tons). I do knowthe height 15’6" .
HTH!
axletramp:
Well I haven’t a clue for one! I’ve never looked. But given the high volume/low weight product carried it’s irrelevant. Last time I weighed in at a customer the whole lot was under 16 tons and that’s for a 4 axle artic (taxed for 28 tons). I do knowthe height 15’6" .
HTH!
Mr Bader, did I see you on the roundabout at Coalville/Bardon only a few weeks ago? White Scania with a blue double decker? I suppose for some jobs, axle weights may not be quite so important. . .
Reubs766:
axletramp:
Well I haven’t a clue for one! I’ve never looked. But given the high volume/low weight product carried it’s irrelevant. Last time I weighed in at a customer the whole lot was under 16 tons and that’s for a 4 axle artic (taxed for 28 tons). I do knowthe height 15’6" .
HTH!did I see you on the roundabout at Coalville/Bardon only a few weeks ago? White Scania with a blue double decker? I suppose for some jobs, axle weights may not be quite so important. . .
Quite possibly, I do get around even though I don’t do nights out.
The trailers are not double deckers as such, just very big inside.
I keep looking for that Iveco, have you still got it?
I’ve lost my R reg, been given a 51 plate now.
The garage have my old steed for taking trailers to MOT station.
axletramp:
Quite possibly, I do get around even though I don’t do nights out.
The trailers are not double deckers as such, just very big inside.
I keep looking for that Iveco, have you still got it?
I’ve lost my R reg, been given a 51 plate now.
The garage have my old steed for taking trailers to MOT station.
Ah, I noticed it was a tall trailer. Yeah, still in the Stralis. I prefer it to the Mercs. Oh no, how you going to cope with the promotion from an R reg to a 51?