I saw somewhere about VOSA being able to issue roadside fixed penalty fines for some quite petty things. Is this actually true and what sort of things can they issue these ‘fines’ for.
VOSA in its current form didn’t exist when I drove trucks before and I have never had dealings with them, so can anyone enlighten me? 
Thanks…
Just found a link that answered my own question (doh).
Man, I though ■■■■ Turpin was dead too… 
Try this … even more eye opening
■■■■ me if they go by the book you’d end up with no wage to show at the end of the month! how can a driver get a fixed penalty for having the wrong speed rating tyre fitted? Surely that’s the workshops fault if that happend?
you are supposed to check your tyres every day/time you take over the vehicle.
With tyre offences they will do you for using the vehicle with a defective/wrong tyre, AND your employer/the vehicle operator for ‘causing or permitting’.
shep532:
Try this … even more eye opening
In fact reading all that ■■■■■ there’s loads a driver could be fined for where he would more than than likely not know anything about!
GasGas:
you are supposed to check your tyres every day/time you take over the vehicle.With tyre offences they will do you for using the vehicle with a defective/wrong tyre, AND your employer/the vehicle operator for ‘causing or permitting’.
Yeah we do but we don’t go around checking stuff like the speed rating etc. what about when you have a blow out to the trailer and the fitter comes out to replace the tyre, how often do you get the same make fitted to the one that has blown?
The speed rating’s marked on the tyre sidewall. If you are having a new tyre fitted you should be checking that it’s suitable. The law is very strict on tyres, and I think I’m right in saying it’s 3 points per defective tyre, which given the number of wheels on a truck mean you can go from 0 points to a ban in one stop.
DVSA (as what was VOSA is now) is much stricter about tyres and wheels than it is about anything else…they may accept that a light was working when you set out, but they won’t accept that a tyre had enough tread on at 6 am, but has worn out during the course of the day. Equally you might not notice that one wheel brake on an otherwise sound tri-axle trailer wasn’t very efficient. But you can see what a tyre is like, just by looking.So, if you check nothing else, check your tyres.
Having just had a quick look through that lot lads I am hellish pleased I have been retired for a few years. Can you imagine trying to encourage young folk into this job show them that lot and its enough to put them right off especially when they find out the average hourly rate Eh. Eddie.
SteveBarnsleytrucker:
GasGas:
you are supposed to check your tyres every day/time you take over the vehicle.With tyre offences they will do you for using the vehicle with a defective/wrong tyre, AND your employer/the vehicle operator for ‘causing or permitting’.
Yeah we do but we don’t go around checking stuff like the speed rating etc. what about when you have a blow out to the trailer and the fitter comes out to replace the tyre, how often do you get the same make fitted to the one that has blown?
Unfortunately SBT ignorance of the law is no defence.
Its about time everyone stood up to these regulations and protested. Their destroying companies and jobs, wheres it all gonna stop, from o licences to cpc to check lists, the list is endless. I know there needs to be health and safety and rules and regulations but this is madness.
Am I correct in saying that French and german drivers are refusing to co operate with some of these rules
Reading through the list I read that at the start of a journey a printout must be done of vehicle derails and required information filled in , isn’t all this on your card?
What is disconcerting, is that many of those offences would be extremely difficult for the average truck or bus driver to have the knowledge to spot. Your typical driver isn’t a mechanic, whereas the VOSA inspector is probably a very highly skilled vehicle technician, with extensive specialist training to spot defects.
There can’t be many professions where the typical working Joe can be targeted to this extent. 
ytre:
Its about time everyone stood up to these regulations and protested. Their destroying companies and jobs, wheres it all gonna stop, from o licences to cpc to check lists, the list is endless. I know there needs to be health and safety and rules and regulations but this is madness.
Am I correct in saying that French and german drivers are refusing to co operate with some of these rules
The problem is casting the first stone. Something needs to be organised and rolled out… but how and by whom? How do we get ‘everyone’ on board?
ezydriver:
ytre:
Its about time everyone stood up to these regulations and protested. Their destroying companies and jobs, wheres it all gonna stop, from o licences to cpc to check lists, the list is endless. I know there needs to be health and safety and rules and regulations but this is madness.
Am I correct in saying that French and german drivers are refusing to co operate with some of these rulesThe problem is casting the first stone. Something needs to be organised and rolled out… but how and by whom? How do we get ‘everyone’ on board?
perhaps through a union ? you know thats organisation that fights for and protects its workers
So if I’m reading this right, then having mixed tyres on one axle is an on the spot fine?
M 7A
Mixing of tyres — types / sizes
£100 FP
&
MSI
Yes
The Road Vehicles (Construction
& Use) Regulations 1986,
Regulation 26 and Section 41A of
the Road Traffic Act 1988, SO-5-
3pts
Our truck went through the VOSA MOT a couple of months ago with a Bridgestone on one side and a Sentaida on the other side of the front axle! Both tyres are the same size and same load rating…
If the above is an offence, then will I need to change the front tyres to a matched pair?
Dave
Leaning on an open door. If i wasn’t in driving I’d love an with Ms Bell to air some ideas. They’d do well to have a day in the road to see it from the ground, strictly non jeopardy for those involved. Kind of like hidden millionaire. They need to catch up with other forms of transport, study how the other transport regulators realised many many many moons ago that it was the structure and lack of support for employees within the industry that was broken; you can’t just crash down on the joe at the coal face and shake your head from your ivory tower waving the law card, and then bemoan to the press it all needs to change.
davemfox:
So if I’m reading this right, then having mixed tyres on one axle is an on the spot fine?M 7A
Mixing of tyres — types / sizes
£100 FP
&
MSI
Yes
The Road Vehicles (Construction
& Use) Regulations 1986,
Regulation 26 and Section 41A of
the Road Traffic Act 1988, SO-5-
3ptsOur truck went through the VOSA MOT a couple of months ago with a Bridgestone on one side and a Sentaida on the other side of the front axle! Both tyres are the same size and same load rating…
If the above is an offence, then will I need to change the front tyres to a matched pair?
Dave
Mixing of types and sizes - sizes is obvious, you must have the same size on both sides of the same axle. Mixing refers to the type/design. i.e one steer tyre and one drive tyre. The actual MOT manual explains it far better than the book of fines does.
A few months ago I had a driver on a DCPC course who had just taken over a ‘new to him’ truck. He reported one of the tyres on the front axle was a different size than the other - the office bod said “That’ll be OK, it’s because we drive on the left.” I advised the driver what the fine might be but that I doubted he would be fined, but also advised regarding the PG9 and that fact it may be classed as an MSI (Most Serious Infringement) and what that meant. He spoke to the office bod and explained to which the office bod said “What a stupid pain in the arse this is!” but it did get sorted.
It beats me why these companies have people in decision making positions when they have no relevant knowledge …
SteveBarnsleytrucker:
shep532:
Try this … even more eye openingIn fact reading all that [zb] there’s loads a driver could be fined for where he would more than than likely not know anything about!
In the majority of cases the driver would not be fined if it was an item that wouldn’t be easily detected during a ‘walk round check’. The driver is usually only fined if it is something he should have seen, heard, felt, smelt or experienced a symptom of it.
Someone mentioned the speed rating - it is clearly visible on the outside wall of the tyre (it’s a possible offence not to be) and therefore simple to check. This is a very infrequent offence as most tyres are J rated or above and therefore fine for most trucks. There are ‘special’ speed ratings for vehicles such as road sweepers etc and these occasionally find their way onto proper vehicles.
Basically - the book of fines is what ‘could’ happen but in most cases, unless it is something the driver clearly ignored or hasn’t bothered looking then DVSA will go for the PG9 and the operator.
Robspils:
Reading through the list I read that at the start of a journey a printout must be done of vehicle derails and required information filled in , isn’t all this on your card?
The problem with the Enforcement Sanctions Policy is that it doesn’t give the ‘full story’. Ideally it needs to be read in conjunction with the actual regulations or the MOT manual or the construction and use regs etc. Don’t forget that ideally this book of fines isn’t for us and is in an ‘abbreviated’ format for use by those with an in-depth knowledge of the full picture.
The offence you have listed is only relevant if a print out was required - i.e lost/stolen/malfunctioning/damaged digital driver card.
