This is the official vosa/dvsa Fines,penalties and sanctions policy, handy to know f you do end up on the wrong side of them.
gov.uk/government/uploads/s … policy.pdf
Where are the penalties for RT(WT)R non compliance?
I can see nothing for non compliance of breaking the 6 hour rule, the average 48 hour working week etc
ROG,
you won’t find the penalties for contraventions of the Road Transport (Working Time) Regulations in the ESP. The ESP mainly deals with Fixed Penalty stuff, or what to do if offences exceed the guidelines for Fixed Penalties. Offences under RT(WT)R were not included in the FP schedules, hence they have to be dealt with by the Courts.
If you look in paragraph 17(1) & (4) of SI 2005/639 you’ll find that exceeding the limits imposed eg 6 hours, is a level 5 offence, up to £ 5 000.
geebee45:
ROG,you won’t find the penalties for contraventions of the Road Transport (Working Time) Regulations in the ESP. The ESP mainly deals with Fixed Penalty stuff, or what to do if offences exceed the guidelines for Fixed Penalties. Offences under RT(WT)R were not included in the FP schedules, hence they have to be dealt with by the Courts.
If you look in paragraph 17(1) & (4) of SI 2005/639 you’ll find that exceeding the limits imposed eg 6 hours, is a level 5 offence, up to £ 5 000.
Do you happen to know if a court has dealt with any cases?
ROG:
Where are the penalties for RT(WT)R non compliance?I can see nothing for non compliance of breaking the 6 hour rule, the average 48 hour working week etc
For [zb] sake ROG change the record.
Has it become impossible for anyone to post anything without you bleating on about there being no fixed penaties for none compliance of the RT(WT)R 
psut1:
This is the official vosa/dvsa Fines,penalties and sanctions policy, handy to know f you do end up on the wrong side of them.
gov.uk/government/uploads/s … policy.pdf
This is obviously a fake document. There is no penalty listed for £■■ per turn of the winding handle the legs aren’t fully wound up. 
ROG:
geebee45:
ROG,you won’t find the penalties for contraventions of the Road Transport (Working Time) Regulations in the ESP. The ESP mainly deals with Fixed Penalty stuff, or what to do if offences exceed the guidelines for Fixed Penalties. Offences under RT(WT)R were not included in the FP schedules, hence they have to be dealt with by the Courts.
If you look in paragraph 17(1) & (4) of SI 2005/639 you’ll find that exceeding the limits imposed eg 6 hours, is a level 5 offence, up to £ 5 000.
Do you happen to know if a court has dealt with any cases?
Why does it matter? It certainly doesn’t affect you as you don’t do the job and haven’t for years. As Tachograph says you really need to change the record; we get it you want it enforced rigidly but it isn’t happening and probably never will be. Some companies like to enforce it so some drivers have to comply with it, others don’t but almost without fail whenever somebody asks a WTD question you cannot wait to post asking why it matters or telling them not to bother because no one has been done for it. Give it a rest please.
Coffeeholic:
psut1:
This is the official vosa/dvsa Fines,penalties and sanctions policy, handy to know f you do end up on the wrong side of them.
gov.uk/government/uploads/s … policy.pdfThis is obviously a fake document. There is no penalty listed for £■■ per turn of the winding handle the legs aren’t fully wound up.
look’s like you’ve been wound up this is another driver’s myth
samsgrandad:
Coffeeholic:
psut1:
This is the official vosa/dvsa Fines,penalties and sanctions policy, handy to know f you do end up on the wrong side of them.
gov.uk/government/uploads/s … policy.pdfThis is obviously a fake document. There is no penalty listed for £■■ per turn of the winding handle the legs aren’t fully wound up.
look’s like you’ve been wound up this is another driver’s myth
Yes I know, did you not notice the smilies at the end of the post which indicated I was taking the ■■■■?
This might be of help to you while using internet forums.
samsgrandad:
Coffeeholic:
psut1:
This is the official vosa/dvsa Fines,penalties and sanctions policy, handy to know f you do end up on the wrong side of them.
gov.uk/government/uploads/s … policy.pdfThis is obviously a fake document. There is no penalty listed for £■■ per turn of the winding handle the legs aren’t fully wound up.
look’s like you’ve been wound up this is another driver’s myth
