boris:
adr:
Well looked after!Looks like an 88 to me ?
Yeah it is, but I couldn’t find a/the F88 thread so thought cos it looked smart it was better to put it on here & seen than not post it!
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anorak:tiptop495:
Hey Anorak, in the advertisement they introduce a 250 class but you had the 240. or was it a time out production in GB.
There was never a big grille on an 88 only the 290 had it.Bye Eric,
I think the 290 replaced the 240 (or 260, or 270, whatever it was called in the different markets) completely in the UK. According to this:
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… the 250 was simply a 290 with different injectors. However, this forum has several pictures of flat-front, wide grille F88s, IE without the thicker 290 radiator, so I reckon these must be 250s. I may be wrong, as usual…
Hallo Anorak, If you read the newspaper you right a derated 290 so it will be with a big double grille too.
Here mid '77 came the F10 with a 250 or 300hp engine,the 300 was a 290 TD100B.
But the 250 was a real F88 TD100A except build in adaptations, and you don’t have to glow before starting.
So as I see the GB 250 had to be glown■■? if it was a real 290 with an other injection system.
Because the compression ratio was lower so the cause they smoked so much,not that the 240/250/260/270 wasn’t a smoker.
Cheers Eric,
tiptop495:
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anorak:tiptop495:
Hey Anorak, in the advertisement they introduce a 250 class but you had the 240. or was it a time out production in GB.
There was never a big grille on an 88 only the 290 had it.Bye Eric,
I think the 290 replaced the 240 (or 260, or 270, whatever it was called in the different markets) completely in the UK. According to this:
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… the 250 was simply a 290 with different injectors. However, this forum has several pictures of flat-front, wide grille F88s, IE without the thicker 290 radiator, so I reckon these must be 250s. I may be wrong, as usual…Hallo Anorak, If you read the newspaper you right a derated 290 so it will be with a big double grille too.
Here mid '77 came the F10 with a 250 or 300hp engine,the 300 was a 290 TD100B.
But the 250 was a real F88 TD100A except build in adaptations, and you don’t have to glow before starting.
So as I see the GB 250 had to be glown■■? if it was a real 290 with an other injection system.
Because the compression ratio was lower so the cause they smoked so much,not that the 240/250/260/270 wasn’t a smoker.Cheers Eric,
Hi Tiptop. I guess that the larger 290 radiator would not be needed at 250bhp, even if the engine was a “detuned” 100B. It would be a waste of money for Volvo to put the bigger radiator and spaced-forward grille on the vehicle. It would make sense to put the wider grille on it, because it would make it look like an F89, which would appeal to some buyers! This would explain the photos of F88s with wide grilles, but not with the 290-type spacer.
Was the TD100A F88 sold in Europe after 1975? Surely it would have been easier for Volvo to continue with that model in UK, in addition to the TD100B 290. The only reason I can think of is that they wanted to simplify the supply of parts, IE all post-1975 UK market F88s have TD100B engines, with the same compression ratio.
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anorak:tiptop495:
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anorak:tiptop495:
Hey Anorak, in the advertisement they introduce a 250 class but you had the 240. or was it a time out production in GB.
There was never a big grille on an 88 only the 290 had it.Bye Eric,
I think the 290 replaced the 240 (or 260, or 270, whatever it was called in the different markets) completely in the UK. According to this:
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… the 250 was simply a 290 with different injectors. However, this forum has several pictures of flat-front, wide grille F88s, IE without the thicker 290 radiator, so I reckon these must be 250s. I may be wrong, as usual…Hallo Anorak, If you read the newspaper you right a derated 290 so it will be with a big double grille too.
Here mid '77 came the F10 with a 250 or 300hp engine,the 300 was a 290 TD100B.
But the 250 was a real F88 TD100A except build in adaptations, and you don’t have to glow before starting.
So as I see the GB 250 had to be glown■■? if it was a real 290 with an other injection system.
Because the compression ratio was lower so the cause they smoked so much,not that the 240/250/260/270 wasn’t a smoker.Cheers Eric,
Hi Tiptop. I guess that the larger 290 radiator would not be needed at 250bhp, even if the engine was a “detuned” 100B. It would be a waste of money for Volvo to put the bigger radiator and spaced-forward grille on the vehicle. It would make sense to put the wider grille on it, because it would make it look like an F89, which would appeal to some buyers! This would explain the photos of F88s with wide grilles, but not with the 290-type spacer.
Was the TD100A F88 sold in Europe after 1975? Surely it would have been easier for Volvo to continue with that model in UK, in addition to the TD100B 290. The only reason I can think of is that they wanted to simplify the supply of parts, IE all post-1975 UK market F88s have TD100B engines, with the same compression ratio.
Hallo, The F88 TD100A was built until end '77,and from then you had the F10 TD100 A or B until '79.
But as I saw some Volvo’s were built in Scotland and adapted form the UK we never saw on our market.
That was a bit the way all did in those times.
But never see in the UK but you can have right a real 89 grille on an 88 240.
So Always happy to learn more about something,“never to old to learn”
That made some difficult problems when you imported second hands, especially from Holland and Germany where the most came from.
Cheer Eric,
It’s an F88 290 with a wide grille, stepped forward lower flap and ROUND air intake stack. Simples!
I thought the same with the Right hand drive and the lower flap sloped forward, always thought they never fit right on the 290
bma.finland:
Eric they do ,atleast in aftermarking ,had some my self,but expencivecheers benkku
Hey Benkuu, first seen of course after market as you said,Tublex 22.5 small rim.
Cheers Eric,
This was a 250, so not just the 290’s and 89’s had the wide grill, these were as they came from the factory.
Hi Cliff, great photo there of Richard Fords F88. No doubt it was worked hard.
Regards Paul.
tiptop495:
bma.finland:
Eric they do ,atleast in aftermarking ,had some my self,but expenciveHey Benkuu, first seen of course after market as you said,Tublex 22.5 small rim.
Cheers Eric,
yep same look up here cheers benkku
Dieseldog66:
This was a 250, so not just the 290’s and 89’s had the wide grill, these were as they came from the factory.
It looks like it has the “thick” grille and sloped-forward front panel, making it visually identical to a 290.
Paul John:
Hi Cliff, great photo there of Richard Fords F88. No doubt it was worked hard.Regards Paul.
Richard Ford bought 5 of them and Wares 1, 2 of Fordies were 290’s, 3 250’s and the Ware one was a 290, one was lost in a fire when only a few weeks old in the workshop, my Brother bought the rest, when they were 4 years old.
Another view of it
The Foster`s truck is a F88-32 , the big grille was only for show , the radiator was still behind the cab front panels 
F88 was coming to the end of the line and VOLVO had a surplus of 290 parts (Grille, Air Intakes etc) and were applied to all RHD vehicles no matter what their designation.
gazzer:
F88 was coming to the end of the line and VOLVO had a surplus of 290 parts (Grille, Air Intakes etc) and were applied to all RHD vehicles no matter what their designation.
I thought I had read this in one of the comics at the time. It appears that they made it “official” by replacing the TD100A (240) F88 with that derated TD100B version.
but … Volvo never made a 240 engine
Lilladan:
but … Volvo never made a240engine
Hey Lilladan, It all depends from country to country.
Here in Belgium the 4951 was called 240hp DIN, other indicate 230 or 255 .
About the 88 I have brochures of different countries, English shows 240hp,french an Dutch 260hp,Swedish 250hp,even we had some with 270hp here in it.
The same with Scania Vabis here it was 225,255,275 other called it 220,240,260. Here I don’t speak about British Scannies because they had a different pumpe tune up.
Cheers Lilladand,
tiptop495:
Lilladan:
but … Volvo never made a240engineHey Lilladan, It all depends from country to country.
Here in Belgium the 4951 was called 240hp DIN, other indicate 230 or 255 .
About the 88 I have brochures of different countries, English shows 240hp,french an Dutch 260hp,Swedish 250hp,even we had some with 270hp here in it.
The same with Scania Vabis here it was 225,255,275 other called it 220,240,260. Here I don’t speak about British Scannies because they had a different pumpe tune up.Cheers Lilladand,
I thought we had solved this? The TD100A in the F88 was 240 DIN net, 260 gross and 270 SAE- all the same engine. I presume that the Swedish 270 was the SAE rating, but I don’t know where the Swedish 250 comes from- the only 250 we have discussed was the derated TD100B British-market one. 
IIRC, the DS11 was 215 DIN net in 1963, then 240 in 1965 then 256 in 1967. This went into the LB110, which stayed as it was until 1974. That engine was 250bhp to BS141Au, 256 DIN and 275 gross. I don’t know whether the gross figure was DIN or SAE, but Aussie adverts quoted 280, so maybe that was the SAE figure- or the 275 simply rounded up. I was not aware that the UK spec DS11 had different ratings, but I stand to be corrected!