Volunteers required!

dafpower:
Didn’t do my cpc about bike riding so I can’t do it I don’t think I’m insured too either and if that isn’t a good enough excuse I don’t understand twisty gears does said bike come with a 4/4 instead?

Insurance isn’t a problem, nor your cpc.
Gripshift isn’t fitted to every bike, however if you’re old enought to remember Raliegh Grifters, same principle. What area of the country do you live in & I’ll try & sort out a cycling buddy for you.

I don’t really think its the truck drivers that need educating, like someone said on here, nearly everyone has ridden a bike in their life at some point, so we know the dangers, but not many cyclists have been in a truck and understand the difficulties of seeing the kamikaze cyclist darting about in traffic behind you or to the side of you. It’s getting really old now, that the hgv driver is getting most of the blame, and is the one that needs educating.

the maoster:
Perhaps this “Yummy Mummy” should take up the offer…

Nice !

That Poor Kid is going to have to live with a Squashed Nose all his life now !

fordboxer:
I don’t really think its the truck drivers that need educating, like someone said on here, nearly everyone has ridden a bike in their life at some point, so we know the dangers, but not many cyclists have been in a truck and understand the difficulties of seeing the kamikaze cyclist darting about in traffic behind you or to the side of you. It’s getting really old now, that the hgv driver is getting most of the blame, and is the one that needs educating.

The majority of truck drivers don’t need educating, that said just look at any kerbs on left turns used by hgvs, it’s the fact that they drive the vehicle that kills people. Like it or not we are the ones looked at when there is an accident unless it’s proved the cyclist was in the wrong.
Yes nearly all of us will have ridden a bike at some point but how long ago? I’d bet even some of the youngest on here haven’t been on one for the thick end of 10 years. The OP just wants to upgrade your skills.

Classic33 if from Yorkshire - I was trying to get out of doing it

dafpower:
Classic33 if from Yorkshire - I was trying to get out of doing it

West Yorkshire. With one of my daily commutes taking in the A58 fron Halifax to Leeds at school run time in the morning.
The other, shorter run, taking me on the A639 & A58 as far as Hipperholme then down into Brighouse. That was done twice a day each way.

switchlogic:
You just know the poster who’s name shall not be mentioned will be along soon, repeating over and over the same things he’s said a thousand times before.

Ironically on the same old threads seen a thousand times before.

Classic33 spot in pal I’ll keep an eye for you when I go that way

So, of those who have read & responded to the OP, how many are willing to volunteer to do one daily commute with a cyclist?
Asking so that I can start trying to match drivers with cyclists.

The offer is also open to fleet managers & owners. They’ll then have the chance to see what its like from the cyclists side & then compare that to the drivers side. That last part isn’t open to people who don’t work for the companies, but should be available to fleet operators/owners.

I certainly will not be doing it because I don’t believe classic has done a risk assessment of what he is asking us to do.
What if I suffer a heart attack whilst doing this ride?
Will his/her insurance pay my mortgage until I am fit to resume work, if ever.
Will his/her insurance pay my mortgage if I get knocked off the bike?
I somehow don’t think so.
So that will leave me having to claim off him/her personally for my damages as he/she is the one openly asking me to do it on a public forum.
I don’t know if he/she has got any money or anything of value that I or my dependents could claim against if I am injured or killed doing as he/she asks.
If I thought my employer had no insurance covering me doing as they ask in case of injury / death I would run a mile(I do suspect they have insurance and the directors a bit put by that I could claim against though) But a cyclist asks for what I believe to be uninsured road users to undergo a journey on the roads which he/she thinks is a dangerous place to be and thinks it OK.
You couldn’t make it up :smiley:

green456:
I certainly will not be doing it because I don’t believe classic has done a risk assessment of what he is asking us to do.
What if I suffer a heart attack whilst doing this ride?
Will his/her insurance pay my mortgage until I am fit to resume work, if ever.
Will his/her insurance pay my mortgage if I get knocked off the bike?
I somehow don’t think so.
So that will leave me having to claim off him/her personally for my damages as he/she is the one openly asking me to do it on a public forum.
I don’t know if he/she has got any money or anything of value that I or my dependents could claim against if I am injured or killed doing as he/she asks.
If I thought my employer had no insurance covering me doing as they ask in case of injury / death I would run a mile(I do suspect they have insurance and the directors a bit put by that I could claim against though) But a cyclist asks for what I believe to be uninsured road users to undergo a journey on the roads which he/she thinks is a dangerous place to be and thinks it OK.
You couldn’t make it up :smiley:

I think you’re taking a rather negative view of the whole thing. Classic’s offer seems to me to be a genuine attempt to foster understanding between two very different groups of road users, which can’t be a bad thing. He’s not asking you to do the Tour de France, just a couple of miles gentle commuting.
Perhaps you have insurance against every possible contingency, I don’t know. But bear in mind that you could have a heart attack walking to the bus stop on the way to work, or have a car crash, or be hit by a piano falling from an upstairs window, or … oh, anything. To single out cycling as potentially lethal (which it isn’t) seems unneccessary.

green456:
I certainly will not be doing it because I don’t believe classic has done a risk assessment of what he is asking us to do.
What if I suffer a heart attack whilst doing this ride?
Will his/her insurance pay my mortgage until I am fit to resume work, if ever.
Will his/her insurance pay my mortgage if I get knocked off the bike?
I somehow don’t think so.
So that will leave me having to claim off him/her personally for my damages as he/she is the one openly asking me to do it on a public forum.
I don’t know if he/she has got any money or anything of value that I or my dependents could claim against if I am injured or killed doing as he/she asks.
If I thought my employer had no insurance covering me doing as they ask in case of injury / death I would run a mile(I do suspect they have insurance and the directors a bit put by that I could claim against though) But a cyclist asks for what I believe to be uninsured road users to undergo a journey on the roads which he/she thinks is a dangerous place to be and thinks it OK.
You couldn’t make it up :smiley:

If you’re able to offer proof that you do the same, what you are asking me to do, for each & every trip you make?
If you are hit by someone else whilst on riding a bike, on the road, it would bemy insurance you’d be claiming from. It’d be the person that hit you, if they were at fault.
If you’re that uncertain about your the state of your heart, should you be driving?
A heart attack can happen at any time, any place. I’ve had one whilst in the A&E.

Cycling is not as dangerous as perceived, but if all on the roads can help reduce the risks to each other, it’d possibly help your fear of having a heart attack whilst cycling.

toby1234abc:
Hold on lads and lasses.There is new invention out to protect cyclists in the blind spot of large vehicles.
How it works;A strong laser light image in the shape of a bike.
The laser image shines out ahead of the road so the driver will see the image in front of the vehicle and be aware a bike is near the vicinity of the vehicle.
The inventor is a young lady.The production line is in China.

Nice idea. Will last in winter to the bottom of the street upon where it’ll be covered in so much muck you won’t be able to see a thing being projected.

classic33:
Seeking drivers willing to spend a bit of time looking at the roads from the viewpoint of a cyclist. On their normal everyday ride, often commute. Cycle trainers will take you down quiet roads, away from heavy traffic. I’m hoping that we’ll be able to convince one or two of you to take up the offer.

The alternate, cyclists see it from a HGV drivers point of view has its limitations. Most notably the insurance side & companies allowing you to carry passengers. Having spoken with the editor of Commercial Motor & in his words he’s “up for it”. So, anyone on here willing to take part?

The intention is not to try & scare the s_ _t out of you, but show you what cycling, in everyday traffic is like for us as cyclists.

We can work together to try & sort this problem out, or wait whilst legislation is brought in to cover the problems faced. Labour have a raft of measures to sort the problem out, whilst Boris, well he has his own ideas on how the industry should sort it out for itself.

With similar bikes now available from some local railway stations. “Boris Bikes”, if they are the only reason, are available elswhere. So it will no longer be soley a London issue/problem.

cyclechat.net/threads/volunt … ht.145713/

cyclechat.net/forums/cyclist-down.71/

I would be willing to try to do this. As a keen cyclist I see plenty from the ‘other side’ and think the message is getting through to our industry. It’s mainly car drivers I have the biggest problem with nowadays.
PS Great idea.

toby1234abc:
Hold on lads and lasses.There is new invention out to protect cyclists in the blind spot of large vehicles.
How it works;A strong laser light image in the shape of a bike.
The laser image shines out ahead of the road so the driver will see the image in front of the vehicle and be aware a bike is near the vicinity of the vehicle.
The inventor is a young lady.The production line is in China.

And if it angles upwards slightly. A LASER pointed straight at you!
Limited usage as can’t fully be seen in broad daylight.

Trying to do it this way due to the limitations in place for the driver(company & insurance) with regards the carrying of passengers. We have in the past tried tp make a short video showing what is visible from more than the one point of view. Cyclist, car driver & HGV driver. We fell at the last hurdle, of getting those who are in a position to have the power to make the changes involved. They didn’t want to know.

Cycle Path Light.jpg

Thanks for posting. :smiley: