Veteran drivers who can't reverse

Juddian:

muckles:
When you say windows at the back are you referring to windows in the back of the cab or windows behind the doors?

In an ideal world for general fleet work (especially with vehicles that never or seldom do nights out) i think all l motors should have the opposite side to the driver’s rear side window in place and at least one centrally placed or again opposite to driver rear window in, this would cut a lot of reversing damage out IMO, assuming the driver wasn’t a trucker type and had curtains permanently pulled across every window.

i had a c series ERF when i worked in corby, blanked all the rear windows out , except the bottom half of the nearside rear corner window, worked like a charm everytime, lost it in the mirror , had it in the window.+

tony

Juddian:

muckles:
When you say windows at the back are you referring to windows in the back of the cab or windows behind the doors?

In an ideal world for general fleet work (especially with vehicles that never or seldom do nights out) i think all l motors should have the opposite side to the driver’s rear side window in place and at least one centrally placed or again opposite to driver rear window in, this would cut a lot of reversing damage out IMO, assuming the driver wasn’t a trucker type and had curtains permanently pulled across every window.

I have driven trucks with windows in the back ,but not for years, and if you haven’t got a flatbed I really could see what advantage they’d be, I’m sure all you’d seen if the front of you trailer. But I can see how one in the side behind the door would be helpful, especially in a blindside reverse. I I’m unsure I’ll either get out and have a look, time consuming especially reversing off a road with impatient driver, or move the mirror, but that has limitations.

muckles:

Juddian:

muckles:
When you say windows at the back are you referring to windows in the back of the cab or windows behind the doors?

In an ideal world for general fleet work (especially with vehicles that never or seldom do nights out) i think all l motors should have the opposite side to the driver’s rear side window in place and at least one centrally placed or again opposite to driver rear window in, this would cut a lot of reversing damage out IMO, assuming the driver wasn’t a trucker type and had curtains permanently pulled across every window.

I have driven trucks with windows in the back ,but not for years, and if you haven’t got a flatbed I really could see what advantage they’d be, I’m sure all you’d seen if the front of you trailer. But I can see how one in the side behind the door would be helpful, especially in a blindside reverse. I I’m unsure I’ll either get out and have a look, time consuming especially reversing off a road with impatient driver, or move the mirror, but that has limitations.

I find the rear window is perfect for that 10 to 2 blind side where you arn’t far enough round for the nsr window which takes over as you near the quarter to three blinder and vice versa.

Course we all manage without, but it might help reduce some of the damage mr anonymous does which you find too often when resuming shift, it won’t help where a driver simply doesn’t give a crap but that’s management fault for employing numpties at all.

wagon and drag cut in far more severe than a normal trailer so I hated them to start with once you get used to them easier than artic.

This morning I stopped at rather good food van on the way into Aylesbury on the A41 from the M25 and got taking to a driver trainer for Fords delivering new vehicles. He has a failure rate of about 65% among those who want to work there. He reckons standards are a lot worse now than 10 years ago. Admittedly he said more than half of those actually fail on loading the vehicles on the trailers properly or safely to the right standard for him rather than outright crap driving. Even so it shows how bad we are as an industry as they take some supposed professional drivers with years of driving experience just to find out that they are useless.