CMH to my mind you seem very genuine and articulate your points well. I don’t think I’d be brave enough to be informing VOSA though I wouldn’t have any qualms about anyone doing so as this company clearly deserve to be taken off the road.
Good luck in whatever path you chose.
country.joe:
There’s a lot happened in 2 weeks then
Cos on Jan’ 7th all seemed good
It’ll be a shame to leave the firm I am at, as the guys are helpful, patient and genuinely good people.
As I’ve said, the initial depot was spot on. Treated me well and everything was fine. Initially the new depot was ok. It all went wrong when a a driver went off with paternity and another driver quit. Rapidly went down hill. Extra drops on each round have gone to make things even worse.
I spoke to my mate just before logging on. He’s put notice in today. Any doubters should wonder why three drivers quit a depot of less than 15 in the space of 3 weeks.
NO! If somebody is driving an 18t+load truck without a bloody licence then it is my business, it’s ‘dangerous driving’, if one of these morons crashed into your family and killed them would you still have the same tone? (God forbid obviously)
As you said yourself if this is the case report it
mick.mh2racing:
CMH to my mind you seem very genuine and articulate your points well. I don’t think I’d be brave enough to be informing VOSA though I wouldn’t have any qualms about anyone doing so as this company clearly deserve to be taken off the road.
Good luck in whatever path you chose.
Thank you Mick .
On my life this is all the truth. I have no reason to lie, especially when I’ve not mentioned names or a company yet. It’s not like I’m trying to win a court case. I’m stating facts, again I repeat, facts!
I cannot let it go, I have a duty to speak up. If my partner and son were mowed down by a driver with no licence I’m sure I’d be hunting him down as well as the ■■■■ that employed him. So if I feel that way, why should I let a company get away with the same?
For me, there’s some really charlatans on this forum. People who condone cowboy outfits are as bad as the outfits themselves. OAD in particular is beyond a joke. I still cannot fathom his stance on a driver being ok to drive an 18t with no licence entitlements. That’s stupidity I’ve never come across before, fortunately.
CMH:
Turnedaround3000:
Turnedaround3000:
Mmm im sure ive heard this tale before… L M FA O…
in sorry if u think i was havin a go fela. Coz i wasent, i just meant most exp drivers will have seen this type of operation before, and you can either roll with it, or look elsewhere. At one time this industry was full of cowboys. Running all hours night/day with a certain fuse out and Micheal jacksons name on the chart. This type of operation is almost extinct now thanks to new legislation, laws, ect. But now thanks to that firm u will be wise to these practices. And next time u will know better!! Chalk it down pal, it wont be the last lot u will encounter
Best advice yet and what I’ve said to myself all day.
Chalk them off as experience and take in my stride. Takes the bad to realise the good?
Sometimes you have to stand up and be counted it’s the selfish that male the industry as it is nothing better for a manager to see Driver at drivers throat if you don’t have the conviction of your words why even bring the subject up. … If enough evidence exits pm the details and I’ll finish the job for you as I’m semi retired now either put up or shut up … enough said
The threads served it’s purpose now. I will wait for my ex manager to be caught on recording, ordering someone to drive overloaded. I will try and get a recording about working through breaks and I’ll get my mate to bring up the driver with no licence.
Once he’s done this I will download to mp3 and pass to visa along with my findings.
One things for sure, these cowboys will be bang in the ■■■■. Hopefully a proper firm will scoop up their contracts.
theshed:
CMH:
Turnedaround3000:
Turnedaround3000:
Mmm im sure ive heard this tale before… L M Fin sorry if u think i was havin a go fela. Coz i wasent, i just meant most exp drivers will have seen this type of operation before, and you can either roll with it, or look elsewhere. At one time this industry was full of cowboys. Running all hours night/day with a certain fuse out and Micheal jacksons name on the chart. This type of operation is almost extinct now thanks to new legislation, laws, ect. But now thanks to that firm u will be wise to these practices. And next time u will know better!! Chalk it down pal, it wont be the last lot u will encounter
Best advice yet and what I’ve said to myself all day.
Chalk them off as experience and take in my stride. Takes the bad to realise the good?
Sometimes you have to stand up and be counted it’s the selfish that male the industry as it is nothing better for a manager to see Driver at drivers throat if you don’t have the conviction of your words why even bring the subject up. … If enough evidence exits pm the details and I’ll finish the job for you as I’m semi retired now either put up or shut up … enough said
I’m unwilling to pass you any details. An admin yes.
I’m more than capable of sorting this myself. I’ve asked for advice, not for someone to do the dirty work for me.
Only people I feel sorry for are unsuspecting drivers and the good guys who could lose jobs as consequence of my action. I’m doing the right thing and that is all that matters.
Topic closed.
CMH:
Own Account Driver:
country.joe:
There’s a lot happened in 2 weeks thenCos on Jan’ 7th all seemed good
It’ll be a shame to leave the firm I am at, as the guys are helpful, patient and genuinely good people.
The OP has got aggrieved former employee written all other it. That’s all I saw and it’s all VOSA and Plod will see as well.
Considering I can work out who he was on for from his post history he might find it’s him in the dock for libel.
Hahahahaha you moron.
Good luck with a libel case when I’ve not mentioned a single name or the company. You are puddle deep.
Visa won’t have to assume anything, they only have to wait around the corner from depot and they will catch drivers overloaded. That alone is enough. Then they can go to depot and get drivers history up. One round worked by a guy with no licence for four weeks. Good luck to anyone defending that case.
You are imo as crook hence your tone all along.
If I can work it out from the type of work, customers they’re delivering too, and geographical location in the new drivers forum others can too.
I’m just someone whose advice to an unworldly Eddie Stobart Trucks and Trailers wannabe that couldn’t hack the only start in the industry he could find, on roll cage multi-drop in a rigid, is to just find another job and get on with your life.
You said you want advice, that was a lie, you just want people to agree with your self-serving and self-justifying whining. As that first line’s an obvious lie why should anyone take the rest of it at face value?
Let’s assume it is all true. These overloaded lorries, you claim, you’ve taken them on a weighbridge have you? Or are you confusing a lorry with more drops than you can cope with delivering for an overloaded lorry to suit your agenda?
How exactly are you imagining it will play out anyway? At a public inquiry the TC will take all the wagons off the road (never going to happen to a national firm delivering to supermarkets) your nemesis the transport manager, you had a barney with, thrown in jail and you’re whisked off to Buckingham Palace for the Queen to present you with a medal for services to missing tail-lift side flaps?
CMH:
The threads served it’s purpose now. I will wait for my ex manager to be caught on recording, ordering someone to drive overloaded. I will try and get a recording about working through breaks and I’ll get my mate to bring up the driver with no licence.Once he’s done this I will download to mp3 and pass to visa along with my findings.
One things for sure, these cowboys will be bang in the [zb]. Hopefully a proper firm will scoop up their contracts.
Why pass on to Visa 
Be careful if recording anything unless they know about it
As I said would just call VOSA tell them you dont have to do any more as they will investigate all then take appropriate action simple as that call the police as well if you wish again you dont have to give your details
CMH:
country.joe:
There’s a lot happened in 2 weeks thenCos on Jan’ 7th all seemed good
It’ll be a shame to leave the firm I am at, as the guys are helpful, patient and genuinely good people.
As I’ve said, the initial depot was spot on. Treated me well and everything was fine. Initially the new depot was ok. It all went wrong when a a driver went off with paternity and another driver quit. Rapidly went down hill. Extra drops on each round have gone to make things even worse.
I spoke to my mate just before logging on. He’s put notice in today. Any doubters should wonder why three drivers quit a depot of less than 15 in the space of 3 weeks.
Right, for anyone still buying the ‘cowboy operator’ twaddle see the above.
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Own Account Driver:
CMH:
Own Account Driver:
country.joe:
There’s a lot happened in 2 weeks thenCos on Jan’ 7th all seemed good
It’ll be a shame to leave the firm I am at, as the guys are helpful, patient and genuinely good people.
The OP has got aggrieved former employee written all other it. That’s all I saw and it’s all VOSA and Plod will see as well.
Considering I can work out who he was on for from his post history he might find it’s him in the dock for libel.
Hahahahaha you moron.
Good luck with a libel case when I’ve not mentioned a single name or the company. You are puddle deep.
Visa won’t have to assume anything, they only have to wait around the corner from depot and they will catch drivers overloaded. That alone is enough. Then they can go to depot and get drivers history up. One round worked by a guy with no licence for four weeks. Good luck to anyone defending that case.
You are imo as crook hence your tone all along.
If I can work it out from the type of work, customers they’re delivering too, and geographical location in the new drivers forum others can too.
I’m just someone whose advice to an unworldly Eddie Stobart Trucks and Trailers wannabe that couldn’t hack the only start in the industry he could find, on roll cage multi-drop in a rigid, is to just find another job and get on with your life.
You said you want advice, that was a lie, you just want people to agree with your self-serving and self-justifying whining. As that first line’s an obvious lie why should anyone take the rest of it at face value?
Let’s assume it is all true. These overloaded lorries, you claim, you’ve taken them on a weighbridge have you? Or are you confusing a lorry with more drops than you can cope with delivering for an overloaded lorry to suit your agenda?
How exactly are you imagining it will play out anyway? At a public inquiry the TC will take all the wagons off the road (never going to happen to a national firm delivering to supermarkets) your nemesis the transport manager, you had a barney with, thrown in jail and you’re whisked off to Buckingham Palace for the Queen to present you with a medal for services to missing tail-lift side flaps?
So much hatred for a guy you don’t know. Quite astounding.
What is self serving about me jacking in a job rather than working bent. That’s a contradiction in terms. If I was self serving I’d work bent and argue the case for working bent, that would be self serving.
The only thing you’ve presumed correctly so far is my problem with the TM. He’s the major failing within the company.
OAD you seem to have a problem with me. I cannot work out why, but it’s your prerogative to like or dislike. All I can say is it’s the truth and that’s all there is to it. I don’t care if you believe me, because you aren’t the authorities. If the authorities choose to prosecute and go public then you’ll see who’s yelling the truth all along.
hi ive followed this thread with great interest ,it seems to me that the op Cmh has great integrity and some of the stupid replies given here by people such as own account driver have been silly and downright vindictive .Keep it up Cmh ,myself and most intelligent people on here will believe and understand what you are trying to do .The rest of you I just cant fathom out
Can you keep the thread updated CMH? Then the doubters will be able to work it out for themselves (maybe 
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OAD did ask 1 question you’ve not answered, have you actually taken an ‘overloaded’ truck to a weigh bridge?
Frankly I am astonished at some of the replies. I would ask a question though, what is your motive to release the details in public? You are whistleblowing in the interests of public safety. It is not unusual for anyone facing their conscience and to be able to articulate the rights and wrongs of it. It is also not unusual for people in a group to develop an irrational neural hijack, when presented with facts and behaviour that undermine what the Ministry is trying to achieve. It also greatly undermines good transport companies fighting to survive i.e. be a sound employer and run legal machinery. You have requested some reasonable input to challenge what you think, in a sense you have received it and in the main it has not been validated. However there is good news because if you read all the replies the answer is there. You have explored what to do. I guess do it if you absolutely believe it is in the best interests of everyone.
Just my opinion
I have to answer most questions with vagueness because of giving myself away.
All I will say is everything I’ve written is 100% true and therefore I have ■■■■ all to fear by reporting because what I have said is true. If I wasn’t sure I wouldn’t report.
We are going around in circles but rest assured I’ll keep this up to date. Hopefully it makes waves and I can use the press as example, no matter how small the press company its still an excellent piece of proof.
An older member on these boards will know before anybody else. He will vouch for me in time. You’ll see
waynedl:
OAD did ask 1 question you’ve not answered, have you actually taken an ‘overloaded’ truck to a weigh bridge?
You are actually allowed to take a vehicle you think is overloaded to the nearest weighbridge if you have no idea what weight has actually been put on, however if it is overloaded you can only drive it back to where you came from and the exact route you took to get to the weighbridge.
I’m not sure if there is a limit on how much weight overloaded the vehicle can be though.
we still don’t know how much are the trucks are overloaded, I mean do you know or is it a guess?
CMH:
I have to answer most questions with vagueness because of giving myself away.All I will say is everything I’ve written is 100% true and therefore I have [zb] all to fear by reporting because what I have said is true. If I wasn’t sure I wouldn’t report.
We are going around in circles but rest assured I’ll keep this up to date. Hopefully it makes waves and I can use the press as example, no matter how small the press company its still an excellent piece of proof.
An older member on these boards will know before anybody else. He will vouch for me in time. You’ll see
Well I suspect you already have given yourself away. Drivers are not fools and secrets cannot be kept “either through strumming fingers or tight lips”.
I will offer this wisdom “you can make a plan down to the final detail and then reality reveals itself”
It is the vagueness that is corrupting what you are saying. If you have something to reveal then say it. we are all grownups
I read the first couple of pages then lost Interest! If things are really as bad as you portray then personally I would dob them in. Would definitely not come on this forum expecting back up 
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I don’t believe everything you have said!