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Franglais:
There are issues with the type of jobs being created though. The well paid skilled jobs are the first to be axed because it’s cost effective to do so. The lower paid jobs are left.
Technology helps us design bridges. No one has yet built a robot to clean toilets, I think you’ll find.
And we’ve only had the Industrial Revolution with us for a couple of hundred years. That is no reason to suggest it’ll be the same world (or any world!) in another century or so.
Looking at the past only shows us things change. It doesn’t show the change will be along the same tracks.
Technology providing new jobs in the past is no reason to assume it will ALWAYS do so. There is no inherent reason to assume this, is there?

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Nite Owl:

ytrehodluap:
Where does the trailer manager sit when he’s not doing the suzies?? Will these just hook up to a trailer do a tug test then notify them the trailer is ready to be pulled? When it gets to where the trailer is to be dropped will it be able to stop if someone feels the need to walk behind the trailer?
Presumably it will need someone to reapply the parking brakes on the trailer??

That was my thought too. No sign of any suzies. We saw the thing go under and we saw the thing pulling a trailer, but not the bit in between. Is there an electronic link between the two to release the brakes? Where does the air pressure come from? Does it need a specialised trailer to be able to work?

m.youtube.com/watch?v=G2ZU1F9Fp … fullscreen

Suzies sorted :sunglasses:

I can forsee this working until you go to the boss and say well we need these at say £80000, plus we need to retrofit every trailer at a cost of £x.

Plus of course the trailer still has to work as normal for its human users.

All trailers will need sensors surrounding them as you will have to mix people and these shunters else how can you drop and pickup trailers? Also HSE wont accept “we told them not to walk into that area” when someone gets squashed.

Ultimately its doable if you’re setting up a new site with new trailers, but for existing systems its going to be stupidly expensive.

Santa:
When shunters are replaced by autonomous tugs, who will shout at us when we get in their way?

Or grass us up when we try a crafty nap on the bunk instead of sitting in the waiting room for 2 hours.

Johneboy:

Nite Owl:

ytrehodluap:
Where does the trailer manager sit when he’s not doing the suzies?? Will these just hook up to a trailer do a tug test then notify them the trailer is ready to be pulled? When it gets to where the trailer is to be dropped will it be able to stop if someone feels the need to walk behind the trailer?
Presumably it will need someone to reapply the parking brakes on the trailer??

That was my thought too. No sign of any suzies. We saw the thing go under and we saw the thing pulling a trailer, but not the bit in between. Is there an electronic link between the two to release the brakes? Where does the air pressure come from? Does it need a specialised trailer to be able to work?

m.youtube.com/watch?v=G2ZU1F9Fp … fullscreen

Suzies sorted :sunglasses:

Wow. I want one.

Like the idea of those susies, but looks like you’d need to be stupidly accurate. 5 degrees to the side and you’d miss, and most likely mash the connections.

As for the truck, the more i look at it, the more it looks like a car. I assume they didnt explain to the designers that to be road used it needs to be higher to make the trailer aerodynamic (not an issue for shunting). Kindof like the Tesla one.

Actually just thought, if its that low and that is tryingbto share space with trucks in a yard, hpw long until someone doesnt see it and drives into it? Bet it doesn’t have a get out the way feature.

Johneboy:

Nite Owl:

ytrehodluap:
Where does the trailer manager sit when he’s not doing the suzies?? Will these just hook up to a trailer do a tug test then notify them the trailer is ready to be pulled? When it gets to where the trailer is to be dropped will it be able to stop if someone feels the need to walk behind the trailer?
Presumably it will need someone to reapply the parking brakes on the trailer??

That was my thought too. No sign of any suzies. We saw the thing go under and we saw the thing pulling a trailer, but not the bit in between. Is there an electronic link between the two to release the brakes? Where does the air pressure come from? Does it need a specialised trailer to be able to work?

m.youtube.com/watch?v=G2ZU1F9Fp … fullscreen

Suzies sorted :sunglasses:

until some clot misses the pin and destroys it . Can’t see fithwheel grease helping either in that area holding all the dust and dirt

This is the future, and claiming that it isn’t is a bit like saying “These new-fangled horseless carriages will never catch on” in 1895.

Harry Monk:
This is the future, and claiming that it isn’t is a bit like saying “These new-fangled horseless carriages will never catch on” in 1895.

Yep.
I don’t think this model in particular will catch on though I also don’t think we will start seeing them in rdcs for at least 10 years. Probably longer.

For example. I work for coop they installed a load of electrical outlets for the fridges so they could be eco friendly in their yard and also help with noise pollution. Soon as they realised that running them on red diesel was cheaper then using electricity they switched straight back to diesel.

With something like this I suspect it will have to be very good indeed if it wants to steal the crown from the likes of terberg.

Harry Monk:
This is the future, and claiming that it isn’t is a bit like saying “These new-fangled horseless carriages will never catch on” in 1895.

I think it’ll always be the future. Just like China is only ten years behind America and has been for decades.

The problem with “the future” is, it never arrives.