Dan Punchard:
Jelliot:
I can’t remember the name of the place in Derby-shire were the lead factory/mine was, but I can remember I had to go through a very tight village to get to it.When I was coming out one day some of the locals had deliberately blocked the road with their cars. I eventually had to get the police in to sort it out. I can understand why they didn’t like trucks going though there but as the lead mine had been there since before the Romans, they should have done their research before buying their trendy cottages.
That twin steer went pretty well and hung on good on long drags. Kim wasn’t afraid of peddling either, we were running to up the Frazers early one morning and by the time I had got out and payed the toll I could see her pulling up the last climb.
Andy the Viking from Leicester ( total Iveco anorak ) did the mid lift conversion, and was our roving mechanic. He could talk all day by only using swear words, which was quit funny as the bosses dad was a big god fearing Christian.
Jeff…
Darley dale ,tight bridge over the derwent then sharp bends after through the houses.
Hiya Dan is that still Entovens, i used to take batteries there from a scrapyard in Stoke.i was thinking could the village be Eyam the people are odd up there, thats where the Black Hole Factory was, that,s the area where most of the lead mines was i can,t think of anywhere else where there,s a big shed in a small village, there,s nothing in Winster is there, not many other places are that narrow and are against lorries as most villages are full of lorry or ex lorry drivers. is the sprinter fixed now??
john
It was a pretty big and well established place, round the Derby ring road hang north over a bridge and follow a fairly good road up the valley for about half an hour, through a few small towns/ villages. The Mine/Factory was a couple of k’s over to the left of the main road, up the hill on the opposite side of the valley. There was a village that was pretty tight to get through then over a very tight bridge, through another even tighter village, where getting in towards the mine was tight but coming out was even tighter, Just the way the junctions were set up. You had to go through a wheel wash splash like the ones on the old commie block border crossings to get into the factory and you had to wear a lead saturation indicator at all times, the site was fairly big, probably 2 to 4 square miles including mine tailing. We used to load for Turkey, Italy, Romania, and Ukraine. The trailers were always washed at the tip site before we reloaded. I believe they also had a battery recycling facility. Defiantly not a place where you would expect to have a facility that drew so much heavy traffic. But as I mentioned earlier they were and had been mining lead there since before the Romans and the villages as there were came a lot later.
Jeff…
3300John:
Hiya Dan is that still Entovens, i used to take batteries there from a scrapyard in Stoke.i was thinking could the village be Eyam the people are odd up there, thats where the Black Hole Factory was, that,s the area where most of the lead mines was i can,t think of anywhere else where there,s a big shed in a small village, there,s nothing in Winster is there, not many other places are that narrow and are against lorries as most villages are full of lorry or ex lorry drivers. is the sprinter fixed now??
john
Hi John, still known locally as Enthovens but part of the Quexco group nowadays. There was a plan to put another bridge across the Derwent to by-pass Darley Bridge but nothing became of it, the company wanted Derbyshire Council to share the cost with them but they declined so the truck’s still struggle around the village! Not sure about ex drivers living in villages and not complaining though, we had one driver who, when he retired, tried to get a local company to stop running past his house, plus a chap who worked at Ballidon quarry all his life campaigned to get it closed when he retired! 
Link to Enthovens below.
hjenthoven.co.uk/html/HOME.HTM
Pete.
Jelliot:
This one had a 380 in it.
420 in this
420 in this as well
This was my favorite 480 ■■? with a Road Ranger box. It was done over in Italy by a bloke that knew a thing or two about Iveco Tuning. Going by other trucks I’ve driven since then it must have been on the top side of 550bhp. But it was still very good on fuel.
Loading lead out of a big shed in a very small village in Derby-shire for Adana in Turkey, to a factory that made wheel weights.
Jeff…
Hi Jeff! The last pics,what a truck!
I really like it!And a tag,dont see many of them in photos from back them do you.
Reg Danne
Hi Dan it was something else to driver as well, before it I was a Volvo man through and through, but it was a beast in its day. Never really let me down, and other than regular servicing,a clutch at 500,000 and brake linings, every 200,000 that was it. It would do southern Turkey @ 8.5 to the gallon most of the way and the only things that got past were empty.
That trailer was left in Turkey for 2 months and when I got it back it had different dimensions 
Needless to say it was highly requested by the groupage guys that could utilize it’s full potential… It was a ways a bit nerve racking to go through police checks and MOT’s but no one ever picked it.
Jeff…
Hi jeff! It sounds lika a beast to me 
I only drowe one for a week a 190 33 i think,it was my uncles cant say i really remeber how i was.
How big did the trailer get then?
Reg Danne
■■? Yeh exactly!!! count the drop sides.
It was the best part of 2.6 meters from the pin to the front corner, so you had to watch when you were getting round in towns.
Jeff…
I took a Merc SK with a V8 500 lump in it down to Fez in Morocco and back on one trip. It wasn’t a lively performer at all, but it just quietly ironed out all the Spanish hills. Robert
Dad and I ran a 480 Merc, mainly on Spain and and a bit of Germany, for all the big torque and BHP numbers it was fairly unspectacular to drive. To Be fair it was reliable, pretty good on fuel, and the driver liked, so it ticked most of the boxes. If there wasn’t any badges on it I would have said it was more like about 380 to 400 BHP.
Jeff
Some more big V’s
Before… 420 bhp
I had to paint it with the sun visor on as everything was rusted solid
After
Another 420
Another 480 tag with a Road Ranger, this one got spun down the M40 near Nuneaton late one frosty night, the remains were cut up and exported to Italy.
I airbrushed it over weekends away in Italy, France, Turkey, Greece, and in the yard in Britain, I did eventually finish it.
Jeff…
Can’t believe nobody has mentioned Deutz , V10 air cooled no blower , about 310 hp , 4mpg ! Went like a train and sounded like one.
Jim
JFC999:
Can’t believe nobody has mentioned Deutz , V10 air cooled no blower , about 310 hp , 4mpg ! Went like a train and sounded like one.
Jim
Hey Jim, Don’t worry about the Mpg,you could get a non turbo V12 340hp too.
Never often seen here, and the Italians had it as a 360hp with about 19 liters volume.
Cheers Eric,
V12 sounds interesting Eric , are either still available in automotive engines ?
Mine was in a Maggii unit pulling a tipper trailer at 32 T , not even 10 hp per ton but I still felt like the bees knees !
Happy days , Jim.
JFC999:
V12 sounds interesting Eric , are either still available in automotive engines ?
Mine was in a Maggii unit pulling a tipper trailer at 32 T , not even 10 hp per ton but I still felt like the bees knees !
Happy days , Jim.
Hey JFC,maybe for very heavy haulage, but if you now can have nearly 600hp with a 6 in line 13 liters.
At that time if you didn’t have a turbo it must come from volume.
Cheers Eric,
JFC999:
V12 sounds interesting Eric , are either still available in automotive engines ?
Mine was in a Maggii unit pulling a tipper trailer at 32 T , not even 10 hp per ton but I still felt like the bees knees !
Happy days , Jim.
There is some discussion of V12 Magirus Deutz vehicles here:
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=23520&p=1415710
Anyone seen the leyland Roadtrain for sale on gumtree it’s in Durban and is V8 powered .
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