V8's?

As me and cpt chubbs say COS WE CAN !!! :grimacing: and hanky spanky is to tight thats the diffrence with a V8

jody1980:

kevmac47:
The thing V8’s do better than straight 6’s is drink fuel. Unless your running heavy all the time that trip through the tunnel with the window open and the radio turned down is a luxury you can well do without !!! Check out the price of the go juice. regards Kevmac47.

Trust you to start talkin mpg kev… :slight_smile: hows retirement■■?

Are you trying to say I have an unhealthy obsession Jody? :unamused: :unamused:
retirement is great but i’m doing a bit of casual work at the moment as
its the only way I can get a sit down from all the jobs the “bride” leaves
for me on her way to work. Regards Kev.

davev8500:
hi all,feel i need to reply to rikki,im on my 8th v8 scania ,now running a 620 on containers

This is daveV8500’s new 620, what he isn’t telling you is that the truck he owned before that first Scania 142 was a V10 Merc 1632, he’s a proper ‘V Man’!!!

Ross.

davev8500:
hi all,feel i need to reply to rikki,im on my 8th v8 scania ,now running a 620 on containers,have always been told never never let a v8 lug 1200,1300 revs half a split and wind it back up to 1500rpm.

:open_mouth:

44 t Gross :question: .It’s putting out around 450 hp at 1,100 rpm and over 500 hp at 1,200 rpm.Why would you ever need to run it up to 1,500 rpm at uk weights. :confused: If it’s doing nearly 8.0 mpg now what would it do if you short shift it in each gear going up the box at 1,200 rpm. :open_mouth: :bulb: :smiley:

The only Scanias I’ve driven have been V8’s and I must say they are (were?) in a different league to anything else on the road in terms of power and torque. However, there always seeemed to be something wrong with them, from small niggly things, to major problems, that guys with 6 pot motors I knew never seemed to experience.

I think too, that a lot of operators spend too much time reading the Kelsa catalogue and not enough getting the basic vehicle spec right. With a standard steer axle, a V8 and a fridge behind you, the nice man in the car with the hero lights knows you’re going to lose the argument every time. :frowning:

Happydaze:
I think too, that a lot of operators spend too much time reading the Kelsa catalogue and not enough getting the basic vehicle spec right. With a standard steer axle, a V8 and a fridge behind you, the nice man in the car with the hero lights knows you’re going to lose the argument every time. :frowning:

I’ve noticed that too, Scania axle weights always seem to be very low, I can imagine it’s very easy to overload an axle by having your fifth wheel in slightly the wrong place as there is no spare capacity in it.

Paul

globby 480:
As me and cpt chubbs say COS WE CAN !!! :grimacing:

LOL :grimacing: :grimacing:

repton:

Happydaze:
I think too, that a lot of operators spend too much time reading the Kelsa catalogue and not enough getting the basic vehicle spec right. With a standard steer axle, a V8 and a fridge behind you, the nice man in the car with the hero lights knows you’re going to lose the argument every time. :frowning:

I’ve noticed that too, Scania axle weights always seem to be very low, I can imagine it’s very easy to overload an axle by having your fifth wheel in slightly the wrong place as there is no spare capacity in it.

Paul

Yes, once got a prohibition for being 300kg over on the steer, with 7t of gross to spare! That’s another story for another day though… :smiley:

repton:

MR VAIN:
Why? I am currently piloting an R580 whilst my 6 pot is away. It’s a nice bit of kit for sure, but why would you buy one? This won’t do anything my 6 pot can’t.

I find that a slightly odd question from someone who has spent tens of thousands on accessories for a truck that, at the end of the day, won’t do anything a plain white standard spec motor can’t…

It’s all about personal choice, surely?

Paul

Tens of thousands? Is that not yr 2nd motor in 18 months? Keep buying yr 3k sheds mate, you won’t be long catching me up :wink:

I think Globby’s answer did it for me.

I’ve had a 4 full days working the V8 now. My 6 pot would live with it on general trunk road ops. But I can appreciate the truck for what it is.

MR VAIN:
I think Globby’s answer did it for me.

I’ve had a 4 full days working the V8 now. My 6 pot would live with it on general trunk road ops. But I can appreciate the truck for what it is.

His answer and the last line of mine said essentially the same thing. If all anyone went by was what was necessary to do a job then we would all be driving around in fleet spec plain white units with about 430bhp. Those of us who get to choose what we run generally don’t do that but what we do have is essentially our choice and my point was that the reason for having a V8 is probably the same reason people fit big sound systems, leather interiors or a dozen spotlights - because they want to.

Paul

there’s nowt wrong with a V8, crackin truck with a great sound from the twin emmies :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing:

ill stick with my 410 thank you

gogzy:
ill stick with my 410 thank you

that’s just cos your gay :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

yes…im gay because im quite happy earning a [zb] load every week and getting home every night because i actually dont give 2 flying [zb]s what i drive :slight_smile:

where as your all man because you have wet dreams about a v8

mind you i do drive a v8…but it certainly does more than 56mph and returns a better mpg

Despite my user name (given to me by my non driver friends as I’ve mostly always driven volvos) I’m a scania man and would take a V8 over anything else. The mpg is solely down to the driver. I had a 530 when I was 21 and it was the best motor I’ve ever had. I was always told to half split just when it drops out the green to get it back to about 1300 and going up the box don’t go over 14-1500. I always got good returns. The thing is, all lorries do tens on the flat, twos up hill and 100 down. It’s about using the power to get over the hills and on the flat, then parked up the other end the quickest. Serious savings or serious expense are just a right foot away…

I’ve got a T reg 144 530 and it’s still a joy to drive if you drive them properly and look after them fuel returns are not as bad as most people think and can be reliable when looked after

Well I can happily report that I saw a return of 8.1mpg on medium to light trunk road work. I can see the benefits of the V8. I am also suprised to say that despite having the worst bed I’ve ever slept in (a matteress would fix that) I am completely sold on the R series interior. I was sure I’d hate it.

Despite all of that, I won’t be buying a V8 anytime soon. I don’t think I can justify the premium outlay to begin with when I’m only scratching around on trunk roads. My blinged up 6 pot shed will do for now, I’m earning (just) and I am happy. :sunglasses:

Thank you for all the replies.

pavaroti:
Old boy I know swears by his 10 year old v8. Says it’s bullet proof, reakons 9mpg and pulls better than anything. 6pots don’t do as much and break easy.

6 pots dont do as much and break easy??
i dont think so. :unamused:
6 pot or 8 pot, still a scania engine. still good. my old 124 done 2.3 million km no bother, and it was mapped to 500 so more ‘stress’ on it,

and as for mpg. put a v8 in wrong hands and it’l make your eyes water. BUT drive them right they are decent.
we have 2 164 580’s and they were doing 8.2 and 8.4, our man tgx 440’s on the same work wont touch 8! power pays,

dbt:
and as for mpg. put a v8 in wrong hands and it’l make your eyes water. BUT drive them right they are decent.
we have 2 164 580’s and they were doing 8.2 and 8.4, our man tgx 440’s on the same work wont touch 8! power pays,

It seems to me that there’s a lot of wasted potential out there which ‘could’ be provided by the idea of just derating the most powerful options like the 600-730 hp versions by having around a 1,200 rpm rev limit in the engine management which would remove all the issues of the thing being put in ‘the wrong hands’. :bulb:

Carryfast:

dbt:
and as for mpg. put a v8 in wrong hands and it’l make your eyes water. BUT drive them right they are decent.
we have 2 164 580’s and they were doing 8.2 and 8.4, our man tgx 440’s on the same work wont touch 8! power pays,

It seems to me that there’s a lot of wasted potential out there which ‘could’ be provided by the idea of just derating the most powerful options like the 600-730 hp versions by having around a 1,200 rpm rev limit in the engine management which would remove all the issues of the thing being put in ‘the wrong hands’. :bulb:

or just be very careful who you give a V8 to :wink: