Why do they usually have sleeper cabs?
we didn,t have sleeper cabs at Courage , however many of them used to have a third seat in the cab.
Most dont but I imagine large companies, like K&N also use the units at night for trunking. I also imagine sleepers have more resale value/appeal
Seems like most of DHL"s have sleepers and as for having a better residual value,what else could you use them for in a later life .
Why would you need a sleeper on a night trunk ?
What licence is required to drive them, C1, C1+E or C+E?
Pimpdaddy:
C+E?
None of em I see are sleepers, just small day cabs.
Dont think you can get a normal size unit under a Dray spec urban, I know the Dray cab’s cant lift enough to pin a standard trailer.
Pimpdaddy:
What licence is required to drive them, C1, C1+E or C+E?
Hope you are wearing your tin hat mate 
B1 GGK:
Pimpdaddy:
C+E?None of em I see are sleepers, just small day cabs.
Dont think you can get a normal size unit under a Dray spec urban, I know the Dray cab’s cant lift enough to pin a standard trailer.
You can get a normal unit under one. PCL bought a load of ex hays kfc urbans when they first started. Looked a right ■■■■ with a topline underneath one 
they never used to have sleepers around here, the Daf LFs i’ve seen have rest cabs in them, just a wee bit more space for 3 men I suppose. when my old man drove them he had a Volvo FL6, with 3 seats in it. 
Then one’s I drove at Tradeteam DHL didn’t have them
Most of the brewery ones around here are day cabs with rear windows, the K+N ones are Iveco standard sleeper cabs, the small ones…
its for when you come to shift them on
same with a coach spec it to sell after the 3 years you own it
you want it to stand out and above the others units for sale
When I worked on drays (agency job), many years ago, mainly working for Bass/Tennants, we used the sleeper bit of the cab for storing our ropes, an extra bag, stuff like that.
This was back in the pre H&S days, when we dropped kegs and barrels straight off the side of our wagon onto a drop pad or a bag and usually then dropped it into the pub cellar, but sometimes used a rope to control a barrel on a ramp. We didn’t like the few pubs that had lifts because they were so slow.
stuartrobbie:
they never used to have sleepers around here, the Daf LFs i’ve seen have rest cabs in them, just a wee bit more space for 3 men I suppose. when my old man drove them he had a Volvo FL6, with 3 seats in it.
My dad had a Ford D series with a double passenger seat. No curtains either just a cage affair on a flatbed
Derf:
stuartrobbie:
they never used to have sleepers around here, the Daf LFs i’ve seen have rest cabs in them, just a wee bit more space for 3 men I suppose. when my old man drove them he had a Volvo FL6, with 3 seats in it.My dad had a Ford D series with a double passenger seat. No curtains either just a cage affair on a flatbed
Must admit to being a tadge confused,did he sleep across the seats or in a cage on the trailer?
Carlsberg are/were experimenting with a Volvo FM 6 legger with a special low fifth wheel to pull a dray trailer during the day then do trunking at night with a normal trailer.
Sure I saw it mentioned on here tbh.
lankyphil:
Carlsberg are/were experimenting with a Volvo FM 6 legger with a special low fifth wheel to pull a dray trailer during the day then do trunking at night with a normal trailer.Sure I saw it mentioned on here tbh.
Commercial Motor article, 7th March 2013
Carlsberg Article:
Carlsberg does a Volvo double take CARLSBERG UK has takendelivery of another two Volvo dual-purpose tractor units, doubling up as 26-tonne GCVV delivery drays by day and 44-tonne GCVV trunkers at night National fleet engineer Andrew Davis drew up the concept of a dual-purpose tractor and the prototype, dubbed MetroLiner, was trialled last year. The two new MetroLiners are working out of Carlsberg’s Newport depot in south Wales.
The challenge was reducing the chassis height of the Volvo FM 6x2 tractor to give enough vertical articulation so the tractor did not foul on the chassis of the low-height, single-axle dray trailers. Carlsberg was also anxious to keep trailer height lower at the front for manual-handling reasons when unloading. The solution was found in ultra-low-profile (295/60 R22.5) tyres, which have a diameter 120mm smaller than the usual 295/80s. That in turn allowed Volvo to mount the mudwings lower, clear of the dray’s chassis. The Fontaine fifth-wheel mounts directly to the chassis, with no base-plate. The result was a coupling height of 1,100mm, about 125mm-150mm less than usual and compatible with both drays and conventional trunking trailers. The use of small diameter tyres meant selecting an unusually ‘long’ final drive ratio of 2.5:1 to preserve appropriate gearing.
Davis said the MetroLiner is just as manoeuvrable as the firm’s 26-tonne rigids.
(Looks like they HDRd those images a little too )
Saratoga:
lankyphil:
Carlsberg are/were experimenting with a Volvo FM 6 legger with a special low fifth wheel to pull a dray trailer during the day then do trunking at night with a normal trailer.Sure I saw it mentioned on here tbh.
Commercial Motor article, 7th March 2013
Carlsberg Article:
Carlsberg does a Volvo double take CARLSBERG UK has takendelivery of another two Volvo dual-purpose tractor units, doubling up as 26-tonne GCVV delivery drays by day and 44-tonne GCVV trunkers at night National fleet engineer Andrew Davis drew up the concept of a dual-purpose tractor and the prototype, dubbed MetroLiner, was trialled last year. The two new MetroLiners are working out of Carlsberg’s Newport depot in south Wales.
The challenge was reducing the chassis height of the Volvo FM 6x2 tractor to give enough vertical articulation so the tractor did not foul on the chassis of the low-height, single-axle dray trailers. Carlsberg was also anxious to keep trailer height lower at the front for manual-handling reasons when unloading. The solution was found in ultra-low-profile (295/60 R22.5) tyres, which have a diameter 120mm smaller than the usual 295/80s. That in turn allowed Volvo to mount the mudwings lower, clear of the dray’s chassis. The Fontaine fifth-wheel mounts directly to the chassis, with no base-plate. The result was a coupling height of 1,100mm, about 125mm-150mm less than usual and compatible with both drays and conventional trunking trailers. The use of small diameter tyres meant selecting an unusually ‘long’ final drive ratio of 2.5:1 to preserve appropriate gearing.
Davis said the MetroLiner is just as manoeuvrable as the firm’s 26-tonne rigids.
(Looks like they HDRd those images a little too
Why’s the bloody air dam so high, will catch on a bridge that the trailer would fit under. Dumb arses 
waynedl:
Why’s the bloody air dam so high, will catch on a bridge that the trailer would fit under. Dumb arses
Without it, how easily would you be able to see it was from that company? The images are adverts afterall!