Rob K:
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No. I’ll do the job meself in future, then I’ll know it’ll get done right.
Why is the world full of numpties that can’t perform a simple task? No wonder this country is turning into a nanny state - it needs to as every other [zb] does indeed need someone to nanny them 24/7 because they can’t think for themselves.
LOL, can’t argue a single point there.
One guy I’m taking on was someone who taught me the ropes and was an O/D for 15 years and does know how to think for himself. Rare breed. The other is fairly new but has got a good reputation around here although he’s only been doing the job 18 months because he too is able to think for himself. Being my best mate, he’s been out with me a fair fwe times in the past and sees how I do the job. He’s doing it the same way and it appears to be paying off. The one thing I drilled into him that he has taken notice of is saying “no” when given an impossible task unlike a lot of newbies that’d run bent to please the gaffer.
Coffeeholic:
Personally if I had made a ■■■■ up like that while helping a mate out, I would be too embarrassed to ask for payment and would have thought it went without saying that I wouldn’t get paid. I was asked to do a job for a price, I failed to do the job because I was a complete idiot and cocked up big style so why should I expect to get rewarded for that?
Seems to be what chairmen of big companies do.
How much did that bloke get as a golden handshake for leaving Railtrack when they’d screwed up? Was it £4 million or something? Same with the former M&S chairman.
If someone had offered me a cash in ■■■■■■■■-which I would gratefully accept and I made a simple stupid mistake as to take the wrong trailer all that way.
Not only would I consider giving up my career as a truck driver but NO WAY would I even contemplate asking for the money!! Infact you’d probaly never hear from me again!
Rob I think you’re right to tell this ■■■■ to go sling his hook-cheeky bugger!
As it was cash in hand and a supposed mate. -well don’t even start me on that one.
Coffeeholic:
Personally if I had made a ■■■■ up like that while helping a mate out, I would be too embarrassed to ask for payment and would have thought it went without saying that I wouldn’t get paid. I was asked to do a job for a price, I failed to do the job because I was a complete idiot and cocked up big style so why should I expect to get rewarded for that?
Seems to be what chairmen of big companies do.
True, but what they are happy with and can live with must be different from me.
I couldn’t believe that someone would come on here, a public forum, and brag about avoiding tax, NI, insurance, council tax, and goodness knows what else.
Then I saw who’d posted
Everyone knows that the authorities monitor these forums, remember the business man who gave the name of his secretary when he got caught on camera, and then bragged about it on a forum? He got stuffed good and proper.
And so will you Rob if you don’t pay him. Even if you do, having spilt your dodgy business for the wide world to see. Because he can make big trouble for you if he feels aggrieved enough. He won’t need to go to court, just a few phone calls.
Pay him, and save yourself a lot of grief, he doesn’t deserve it and I wouldn’t have charged you in his position, but he has a lot of power over you at this moment.
Rob K:
Oh dear. Where’s the “shaking head” emoticon? I wish I’d never said anything. All I’m getting is “insurance this, insurance that, employed, employee, blah blah”.
Are you lot seriously telling me that whenever you give a friend/mate/someone you know a bit of work to do for you, you say that they’ll need to self-employed, have injury insurance etc?
This site really isdo-gooders.com, just like I’ve been saying for years.
If there’s anyone out there like me that works cash in hand / backhanders / favours for beers etc then it’d be good to hear your thoughts. Everyone else that just wants to question the employment law, insurance, what-if-he-had-an-accident aspects, just forget it and find a different thread to air your do-gooding thoughts on.
As far as the story goes, I’ve decided that he won’t be getting a penny off me and because of his cheek telling me that he’s gonna take me to court, he’ll be getting a bill for £200 for the diesel now too. [zb]
You should have known that the do-gooders.com posters would have a field day Rob, you like to tell it how it is, they are giving you the straight, legal gen. You started this thread, you’ll just have to put up with them.
Although they are technically correct, who among us abides by the letter of every single law. I’d put money on even the do-gooders.com people stumbling out of line slightly on occasion.
Personally, I’d tell your mate to get knotted. You asked him to do you a perfectly simple job. He managed to screw it up totally AND he cost you money.
But there’s no way you’ll get anything out of him either.
Spardo:
I couldn’t believe that someone would come on here, a public forum, and brag about avoiding tax, NI, insurance, council tax, and goodness knows what else.
Then I saw who’d posted
I could, and RobK isn’t the first, nor do I think he’ll be the last.
Simon:
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I could, and RobK isn’t the first, nor do I think he’ll be the last.
Dead right there Simon, now did I tell you about the time when I did Dover to Genoa in one hit, tipped, reloaded Milan, then rushed back to Blighty because of a family crisis, bouncing the trailer of the wall at Nantua (but not bothered because someone told me once ‘just get the command module past, the rest will follow’), then dropped the trailer back in Dover before rushing home?
-well don’t even start me on that one.
