So for the past few weeks the road outside our depot has been extensively dug up and resurfaced to make it as smooth as the proverbial bottom. Driving an Actros it feels like you’re in a dream world.
That was until this morning. My Eagle eyes picked out a yellow sign from Yorkshire Water stating that in 2 weeks time they are starting sewer replacement works on the very same road that for approx 3 days has felt like heaven. This means that the Actros in 2 weeks time will be bobbling up and down on uneven trench tarmac laid by the above utility company.
I feel like inviting BT and Transco to come out in the following weeks to make a complete hash of this new road so we can have a full house.
Now as the road is council owned, am I being thick in thinking they should have just waited for Yorkshire Water to do their stuff before re-laying the road? After all it is the same authority that issues the permits to utilities to do the required work.
What amazes me more is the fact they bury services under the roads. It causes havoc when they want to do work on them, even more so when they rip the road up four times in a month because they can’t work together…
Bury services under the pavements, 6ft diameter tunnel under the road with access either side.
mardybum:
What amazes me more is the fact they bury services under the roads. It causes havoc when they want to do work on them, even more so when they rip the road up four times in a month because they can’t work together…
Bury services under the pavements, 6ft diameter tunnel under the road with access either side.
Are we both just assuming that common sense is plentiful because what you say would be a great idea [emoji106]
What? are you feeling well man, get umpteen layers of bloody apparatchiks to communicate with each other in a sensible manner, messing up budgets and inconveniencing our best mates in the contractor circuit
Reminds me of Balham High Rd in south London. It was like a goat track and me and my old ‘sit up and beg’ ford pop’ used to go bouncing and skipping all over the bloody show along there. Then it was resurfaced… magic. Two weeks later it was water, gas, electric, sewerage and anyone else you can think of, digging holes and lo and behold there we were bouncing all over the place again.
Government privatized essential public services and said private sector wont work together because there is no profit in it.
I’m too young to of been around in the 70s/60s before all this took place but was it actually better when the government owned all these sectors?
I moved into my current house 18 months ago and in that time the main road just outside the development has been dug up 8 times for various services, usually for weeks at a time. There is a busy roundabout which gets put on 4-way temporary lights which cause chaos.
Currently, it’s undergoing an EIGHTEEN WEEK disruption so they can do gas work.
I have a hard time believing that at least some of those works couldn’t have been combined to create less disruption
stuwozere1:
So for the past few weeks the road outside our depot has been extensively dug up and resurfaced to make it as smooth as the proverbial bottom. Driving an Actros it feels like you’re in a dream world.
That was until this morning. My Eagle eyes picked out a yellow sign from Yorkshire Water stating that in 2 weeks time they are starting sewer replacement works on the very same road that for approx 3 days has felt like heaven. This means that the Actros in 2 weeks time will be bobbling up and down on uneven trench tarmac laid by the above utility company.
I feel like inviting BT and Transco to come out in the following weeks to make a complete hash of this new road so we can have a full house.
Now as the road is council owned, am I being thick in thinking they should have just waited for Yorkshire Water to do their stuff before re-laying the road? After all it is the same authority that issues the permits to utilities to do the required work.
I just can’t believe the stupidity!
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That’s because the highways dept haven’t spoken to the works dept, about work pending, the water authority have to put a notice in up to six months before doing major works to seek permission and also make sure if any other works can be done together, let’s say lay cables/pipes then resurface,
In MK they put in a new road for all the new Waitrose, warehouseing around fenn st, nice new roads pavement, grass verges etc, 6 months after completion, along come BT and dig it all up to put in fibre cables, then when they finished, they then moved the lamp posts…
Considering Highways Dept have to be notified prior to any major disruption it boils down to a total lack of communication between staff in that department.
Nothing has changed,its been going on for years,try putting a dropped kerb in without notifying them and they are onto in a shot
lolipop:
Considering Highways Dept have to be notified prior to any major disruption it boils down to a total lack of communication between staff in that department.
Nothing has changed,its been going on for years,try putting a dropped kerb in without notifying them and they are onto in a shot
In this town the sewers are being installed or replaced, anyway a road was closed on 13/2/2017 for 37 weeks to allow this work to be carried out. It is still closed and now the sign reads 13/2/2018 and I suppose it will be amended again next year.
The roads on my estate are all the concrete type popular in the early sixties . The wear exceptionally well and need little if any maintenance. As a town they are replacing all the gas mains . The holes are all being filled by Tarmac.
The work has been going on for three years , where the first works were done now looks like a tank test route .
Tarmac has crowned or cracked open , sunk or just turned to pot holes .
adam277:
Government privatized essential public services and said private sector wont work together because there is no profit in it.
I’m too young to of been around in the 70s/60s before all this took place but was it actually better when the government owned all these sectors?
My post about me and me ford pop’ was in the 60’s when it was all ‘gas board’ ‘water board’ ‘electricity board’ etc. So nothing’s changed.
adam277:
Government privatized essential public services and said private sector wont work together because there is no profit in it.
I’m too young to of been around in the 70s/60s before all this took place but was it actually better when the government owned all these sectors?
It was worse, far worse.
You had no choice and there was no competition, things like the railways and utilities ran at a loss that was picked up by you and me the taxpayer, the rose tinted specs don’t work on this particular gem of the past, it was all sold off and rightly so.
Nationalised industry is a product of socialism which has never worked anywhere in any period of human history.
So the water falls out of the sky and then belongs to some multi-billion pound conglomerate who have been given the right to print money by ■■■■■■ all of us?
No, the utility and the railway companies have been very successful in brainwashing us that things have improved entirely due to their astute management. Actually they have improved but only because of receiving the investment which government withheld in previous times. Much of that investment coming not from the companies themselves but in hidden ways from public funds. If the company finds that its bid figures don’t add up and it isn’t trousering enough then it just walks away from it committment or declares insolvency and leaves it to the taxpayer to pick up the tab, that’s a familiar story isn’t it? clickety clack, clickety clack, clickety clack.
How did we get here? Previous governments were told by the industries what was needed, but were on a permanent mission to reduce taxes - at least the taxes which the man on the Clapham omnibus could see and understand- so the money was not forthcoming. The taxes were reduced as per manifesto, why? because the only thing any government is really interested in is getting itself re-elected, so reducing taxes is a sure fire vote winner. But wait what are we hearing now? there is a feeling going around in the Westminster brothels that the public might just be in favour of a tax to provide funding for the NHS before it collapses from the lack of past long term support. Eureka moment, tell the ■■■■■■■ truth for once and stop trying to hoodwink us with all this smoke and mirrors stuff . The investment required remains the same whether it comes from investors - who want a significant cut in return - or from our taxes, and the only return we expect is a system or service which is fit for purpose and accessible.
To come back to the state of the roads, the local councils are supposed to be able to fine the utility companies for digging up a section of good road, but we never hear whether this has actually happened, probably because the companies get their legal department onto the case to argue some reason why they shouldn’t have to pay, so the council doesn’t bother because it cannot justify the expense of argument. Meanwhile the utility companies get away with a bodge road repair leaving it to the council to pay for reinstatement when it all falls apart later. And fall apart later is exactly what happens, but there is another twist, many councils have outsourced their routine small scale road repairs to the private sector on a bidding process. Result? fixed price per job, it sounds good but the reality as we know is that the gang turn up and in twenty minutes have literally trodden-in a shovelful of basecourse, job done as per contract until next week, and the week after, and the week after that. Kerching, kerching, kerching.
No things were not better back then, they were about the same but we have certainly been lied to that they are better now.
You remember the economic miracle of the Thatcher years, when she sold off the family silver in the form of the nationalised industries and North sea oil and destroyed our manufacturing industries, and Blair (Brown cunningly left holding the baby when the music stopped) carried on just the same and sold the nations gold at rock bottom price to boot
I won’t get into the more recent traitors at the top, they are not fit to hold the office of the patriots of yor.
What i want to know is, despite the £billions raised through these sales to their best mates, how has the defecit and the national debt continually risen to their present (basically the country is bankrupt) levels and still rising.
If you ran your own household like this, you’d have been thrown out of your own home decades ago.
Where did the money go is the real question, and how come some ex politicians involved in all this have property and business portfolio wealth in almost unimaginable figures.
I suspect there was a reason the country has had weapon bans, for surely there would have been the modern equivalent of the pitchfork wielding villagers rasing the homes of the truly evil count drakulas and their weirdo concubines to the ground by now, or has the populace been so brainwashed up till now?, hence the new threats to free speech and freedoms to object?
Last year my local council or highways painted 20mph signs on the road surface ,3 months later they did that crappy wet tar thing over the top of the new 20mph signs .It is poor management…
I remember my first phone. I had to order it fro the GPO and wait three months for them to install it - I think it cost a month’s wages too.
I used BR a good deal too back in the day - those great old steam engines…- Of course, the carriages were dirty and the heating either didn’t work in the winter or couldn’t be turned off in the summer. Trains that ran on time were rare and station staff mostly surly and unhelpful.
One of my earliest jobs was with Glamorgan County Council. The department I worked in would send out a letter to all the utilities at least six months before resurfacing a road - few if any bothered to reply. We also asked them if they could tell us where their pipes or cables were on land that we wanted to build on - they rarely had the faintest idea, and couldn’t care less.
Five years ago the street I live on was completely rebuilt; it is as smooth today as it was when they finished - the pavements on the other hand…
