Radar19:
For a fine and 7 points, he’d have to of done more than just “hit a fence post”.
Yeah your right Radar, what do I know 
yt03:
Radar19:
For a fine and 7 points, he’d have to of done more than just “hit a fence post”.Yeah your right Radar, what do I know
There has to be something more to this. I don’t see how knocking a fence post equals a fine and 7 points.
Happened in your neck of the woods (conningsby) personally think they was trying to make a example of the situation…
All the top dogs went down (director, general manager) and reckon all it needed was a lick of blue paint and straightening out…
Driving professionally for 30+ years, and chucked it after that. Went to work as a chauffeur for the healeys if you know of them?
Radar19:
yt03:
Radar19:
For a fine and 7 points, he’d have to of done more than just “hit a fence post”.Yeah your right Radar, what do I know
There has to be something more to this. I don’t see how knocking a fence post equals a fine and 7 points.
Maybe something like “perverting the course of justice” or “recklessness driving” was added to the mix mate!
Evil8Beezle:
Radar19:
yt03:
Radar19:
For a fine and 7 points, he’d have to of done more than just “hit a fence post”.Yeah your right Radar, what do I know
There has to be something more to this. I don’t see how knocking a fence post equals a fine and 7 points.
Maybe something like “perverting the course of justice” or “recklessness driving” was added to the mix mate!
Yeah they would of deffinetly of been some sort of charge along them lines… BUT you aren’t technically ’ perverting the course of justice’ if you aren’t aware? He was a genuinely nice guy.
I’m not in anyway saying this will happen to the op, but it just shows how much damage a complaint can do to your licence.
Perverting the course of justice boils down to actively lying to the cops about your involvement in a crime. Catching something the tail end of a trailer and not feeling it isn’t perverting the course of justice. Getting out and kicking the car’s door in then lying to the police about it is.
tachograph:
Newbie66:
I’ve been told this has been passed to the police as I didn’t stop or report it but I didn’t even know it had happened. Now I’m bricking myself that I’m going to get a costly fine, points on my licence and/or prosecuted.As far as I’m aware it’s only an offence to leave the scene of an accident if there is someone injured in the accident, in your case the offence is failing to report the accident within 24 hours but you can’t report an accident if you didn’t know it happened, so stop worrying because you are not going to be charged with failing to report the accident unless they can prove you knew about it.
The advice in that post is pretty much entirely incorrect.
The requirement to stop at the scene (and give your name and address and that of the vehicle owner to anyone having grounds to require them) applies to all accidents where someone other than you is injured, or where damage is caused to any other vehicle or to “roadside furniture” (which definitely includes fence posts, gate posts etc). IF you do not stop, or there is no-one at scene to give your particulars, THEN you must report the accident at a police station as soon as practicable and at the very latest within 24 hours.
It is not necessary for them to prove that you knew about it - only to show that you should have known about it.
yt03:
Yeah they would of deffinetly of been some sort of charge along them lines… BUT you aren’t technically ’ perverting the course of justice’ if you aren’t aware? He was a genuinely nice guy.I’m not in anyway saying this will happen to the op, but it just shows how much damage a complaint can do to your licence.
I’m not drawing any conclusions mate, just throwing possible explanations out there…
As for perverting the course of justice, he could have tried to present false evidence on how it couldn’t be him, but again, that’s just conjecture…
Evil8Beezle:
yt03:
Yeah they would of deffinetly of been some sort of charge along them lines… BUT you aren’t technically ’ perverting the course of justice’ if you aren’t aware? He was a genuinely nice guy.I’m not in anyway saying this will happen to the op, but it just shows how much damage a complaint can do to your licence.
I’m not drawing any conclusions mate, just throwing possible explanations out there…
As for perverting the course of justice, he could have tried to present false evidence on how it couldn’t be him, but again, that’s just conjecture…
Don’t get me wrong they are plenty of people that would try pull a fast one.
When I did skips before they had a complaint (this wagon on this road at X time) damaged my car… Me sat there thinking nah I couldn’t have? You do start questioning yourself. Luckily the company agreed to dashcams on their insurance to keep the costs down,
Got back to yard sharpish, memory card out and quite clearly the car was damaged prior to me passing it!
They is alot of bent people out there looking for a quick payout! They don’t care if you lose your job over it aslong as the damage gets repaired.
As someone said above though, DO NOT SIGN F ALL
Yep, Dashcams are well worth it, i’m happier with one in the truck!
But I don’t own one, as I think the firms should pay for these and I’m not giving them any encouragement to not…
Thankfully I’ve not had to rely on it, although it did seem to make an aggressive car driver calm down when i pointed to it!
Evil8Beezle:
Yep, Dashcams are well worth it, i’m happier with one in the truck!
But I don’t own one, as I think the firms should pay for these and I’m not giving them any encouragement to not…Thankfully I’ve not had to rely on it, although it did seem to make an aggressive car driver calm down when i pointed to it!
In the respect as they cover your ■■■ there great, but when you see people posting vids on the net of minor BS, they need to give their heads a good wobble lol
yt03:
Evil8Beezle:
Yep, Dashcams are well worth it, i’m happier with one in the truck!
But I don’t own one, as I think the firms should pay for these and I’m not giving them any encouragement to not…Thankfully I’ve not had to rely on it, although it did seem to make an aggressive car driver calm down when i pointed to it!
In the respect as they cover your ■■■ there great, but when you see people posting vids on the net of minor BS, they need to give their heads a good wobble lol
Another reason why firms should provide them, then the data is their copyright.
Not that i’d be inclined, but I wouldn’t be posting it as it’s not mine to post!
To me, that data is for the insurance companies and the law…
But I do confess to watching some, so guess I’m a hypocrite! 
Evil8Beezle:
yt03:
Evil8Beezle:
Yep, Dashcams are well worth it, i’m happier with one in the truck!
But I don’t own one, as I think the firms should pay for these and I’m not giving them any encouragement to not…Thankfully I’ve not had to rely on it, although it did seem to make an aggressive car driver calm down when i pointed to it!
In the respect as they cover your ■■■ there great, but when you see people posting vids on the net of minor BS, they need to give their heads a good wobble lol
Another reason why firms should provide them, then the data is their copyright.
Not that i’d be inclined, but I wouldn’t be posting it as it’s not mine to post!
To me, that data is for the insurance companies and the law…
But I do confess to watching some, so guess I’m a hypocrite!
lol
Newbie66:
Hi everyone. I’m a very new driver (still in my first month on the road) and I’ve just been told by a company I did a day placement with (through agency) that I apparently hit a fence post whilst turning in an industrial estate in an 12t rigid. It’s possible this did happen (I was on that estate when it’s said to have happened) but I honestly don’t remember hitting/bumping anything! Didn’t feel, see or hear anything and I even got out and checked before manoeuvring to ensure I had room (I’m still getting used to the size of the trucks).I’ve been told this has been passed to the police as I didn’t stop or report it but I didn’t even know it had happened. Now I’m bricking myself that I’m going to get a costly fine, points on my licence and/or prosecuted.
Can anyone offer advice?
I’ve not read through all the replies and it’s highly likely it’s already been answered.
But, my 10 pence worth, and as an ex-copper and traffic cop. You can only be held responsible for leaving the scene of a collision (not called accidents anymore, political correctness and all that ■■■■■■ if you are aware of it. If it’s a damage only, and by the sounds of this it is, then the police are extremely unlikely to do anything about it. If the truck is bent to the point where you would have known about it then they may follow it up. They may look down the line of careless driving but I very much doubt it. If it was on a sight then chances are it is private property and not a place where the public have access, therefore the road traffic act does not apply and the police won’t be interested in the slightest.
That leaves you trying to convince the agency / company. They might just not ask for you again but if I was you I really wouldn’t worry.
If it was in a public place / road and by some extreme chance the police want to interview you about it, just tell them what you’ve already said. Don’t admit to having done it, and don’t even admit to the likelihood that you could have done.
If there’s CCTV evidence of you getting out the cab and inspecting the damage before driving off then things might be slightly different.
Evil8Beezle:
yt03:
Yeah they would of deffinetly of been some sort of charge along them lines… BUT you aren’t technically ’ perverting the course of justice’ if you aren’t aware? He was a genuinely nice guy.I’m not in anyway saying this will happen to the op, but it just shows how much damage a complaint can do to your licence.
I’m not drawing any conclusions mate, just throwing possible explanations out there…
As for perverting the course of justice, he could have tried to present false evidence on how it couldn’t be him, but again, that’s just conjecture…
You can’t get points for perverting / attempting to pervert the course of justice. That’s a criminal offence and nothing to do with the road traffic act.
goshow:
Evil8Beezle:
yt03:
Yeah they would of deffinetly of been some sort of charge along them lines… BUT you aren’t technically ’ perverting the course of justice’ if you aren’t aware? He was a genuinely nice guy.I’m not in anyway saying this will happen to the op, but it just shows how much damage a complaint can do to your licence.
I’m not drawing any conclusions mate, just throwing possible explanations out there…
As for perverting the course of justice, he could have tried to present false evidence on how it couldn’t be him, but again, that’s just conjecture…You can’t get points for perverting / attempting to pervert the course of justice. That’s a criminal offence and nothing to do with the road traffic act.
Taking a conveyance (i.e. nicking motors/joyriding) is a Criminal offence (Theft Act 1968) and nothing to do with the Road Traffic Act - but you can get 11 points for that!
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goshow:
Evil8Beezle:
yt03:
Yeah they would of deffinetly of been some sort of charge along them lines… BUT you aren’t technically ’ perverting the course of justice’ if you aren’t aware? He was a genuinely nice guy.I’m not in anyway saying this will happen to the op, but it just shows how much damage a complaint can do to your licence.
I’m not drawing any conclusions mate, just throwing possible explanations out there…
As for perverting the course of justice, he could have tried to present false evidence on how it couldn’t be him, but again, that’s just conjecture…You can’t get points for perverting / attempting to pervert the course of justice. That’s a criminal offence and nothing to do with the road traffic act.
There was a fine involved as well, i didn’t say or infer this accounted for possible points pal, just general conjecture…
Roymondo:
goshow:
Evil8Beezle:
yt03:
Yeah they would of deffinetly of been some sort of charge along them lines… BUT you aren’t technically ’ perverting the course of justice’ if you aren’t aware? He was a genuinely nice guy.I’m not in anyway saying this will happen to the op, but it just shows how much damage a complaint can do to your licence.
I’m not drawing any conclusions mate, just throwing possible explanations out there…
As for perverting the course of justice, he could have tried to present false evidence on how it couldn’t be him, but again, that’s just conjecture…You can’t get points for perverting / attempting to pervert the course of justice. That’s a criminal offence and nothing to do with the road traffic act.
Taking a conveyance (i.e. nicking motors/joyriding) is a Criminal offence (Theft Act 1968) and nothing to do with the Road Traffic Act - but you can get 11 points for that!
TWOC is also a criminal offence, like you say, it comes under the theft act. The points / disqualication usually comes from no insurance or driving otherwise than in accordance etc.
For TWOC the magistrate or judge can offer a descretionary ban. I’ve never heard of someone getting 11 points solely for the theft aspect. But, never say never!!!