UK Vignette ?

im more in favor over the ■■■■ turpin routine… peage kiosks outside dover dock and the chunnel and stop every foreign truck and charge em £50 no no no make it £100 that would sort a few things out.

spaceman:
But will the UK enforce it by fining foreign registered trucks?

I expect they will fine all users who don’t pay it whether they are foreign or UK registered. When it does get introduced it will apply to all trucks, not just foreign ones. They wouldn’t be able to introduce it otherwise due to EU law. The MAUT applies to all truck regardless of nationality as does the Vignette.

Coffeeholic:
When it does get introduced it will apply to all trucks, not just foreign ones. They wouldn’t be able to introduce it otherwise due to EU law. The MAUT applies to all truck regardless of nationality as does the Vignette.

well they should scrap the road tax then but i doubt that will happen

NO; for those who go outside GB these dates can be reimburrised just
as they do in denmark with the tax & vingette, the system can use the
computor to keep track who was out of the country and so prevent any
misuse, also like the german maut if the vehicle in question has a greener engine then the TAX can be lower which in turn will influence
transport companies to reinvest which in turn will bring more jobs for every country which supplies parts to the manufacters,and GB is one of the main suppliers to the industry.

road/mileage pricing will hit all uk operators in the pocket [especially o/d’s]…even though they say it will be revenue neutral v scrapping the road fund license!

Would it not have been much simpler & millions cheaper to have adopted the old French system■■? When a uk truck entered France, a customs officer climbed on the step & took a peak at the fuel guage (for those who aren’t old enough to remember, DERV was considerably cheaper here than it was in France). If you were carrying more than a specified no. of litres (1/4 tank?) you paid on the spot fine roughly equivalent to the duty the French would have received had you purchased that fuel there.
Obviously the idea being that you shipped out near empty & purchased your fuel in France.

Now if they’d been doing that here for the past 10 years, how much revenue■■?

Driveroneuk:
road/mileage pricing will hit all uk operators in the pocket [especially o/d’s]…even though they say it will be revenue neutral v scrapping the road fund license!

Doubt it will be revenue neutral for me, my RFL is only £165 a year. Even given the fact I do less than 300 miles a week in the UK I think I will pay more.

Driveroneuk:
Would it not have been much simpler & millions cheaper to have adopted the old French system■■? When a uk truck entered France, a customs officer climbed on the step & took a peak at the fuel guage (for those who aren’t old enough to remember, DERV was considerably cheaper here than it was in France). If you were carrying more than a specified no. of litres (1/4 tank?) you paid on the spot fine roughly equivalent to the duty the French would have received had you purchased that fuel there.

Or gave the customs officer 10 Francs for a ‘cup of coffee,’ cheaper and quicker and never failed. :wink: :smiley: :smiley:

Those French Customs men were multi millionaires before being caught.

The money never got into the country coffers, it was all hidden in boxes in the mansions that these blokes bought.

It was called corruption

Driveroneuk:
road/mileage pricing will hit all uk operators in the pocket [especially o/d’s]…even though they say it will be revenue neutral v scrapping the road fund license!

Would it not have been much simpler & millions cheaper to have adopted the old French system■■? When a uk truck entered France, a customs officer climbed on the step & took a peak at the fuel guage (for those who aren’t old enough to remember, DERV was considerably cheaper here than it was in France). If you were carrying more than a specified no. of litres (1/4 tank?) you paid on the spot fine roughly equivalent to the duty the French would have received had you purchased that fuel there.
Obviously the idea being that you shipped out near empty & purchased your fuel in France.

Now if they’d been doing that here for the past 10 years, how much revenue■■?

Ah yes. 20 Francs ready and tucked up nicely on to the T FORMS. Quick bung and away. I remember it well. No probs in them days eh mate? :wink:

the only way onto this island of ours for road transport is by ferry or train…so each has to pass a port…no not passport…enter by a port…so if we introduced a daily rate its so easy…just like the euro vignette…the problem is enforcing it…like most of our laws…sell it on the boats/train…instead of in the ferry port offices…nuff said…why its gonna take another 3 years i will never know

I was chatting to a mate of mine, on the phone, a few minutes ago. He drives for Brian Yeardleys and was down at their yard near Lenham for a 36.

As we were chatting away, the European companies stealing away UK companies work came up, as it does. I mentioned that I thought it was about time the UK bought in a Vignette type system.
He said that he’d heard that Brussels had veto’d that because we have toll roads. It seems we can have one OR the other, but not both.

I was a little confused by that myself, but it seems that tolled bridges (and the M6Toll ) count as tolled roads :open_mouth: :open_mouth: .

Has anyone else heard anything about this ?

Sorry mate but i do belive that is not right as GB was asked if they wished to particapate in the EURO-VINGETTE and the well schooled and highly
informed imbicles who were voted in at the time said no thank you,
so yes we can and will be getting a roadpriceing system it just depends how they< wish to go about it,

The UK Government are looking at introducing a system in 2008, it was to have been 2006 but they delayed it after the problems with the German MAUT. It could well be the German system, or something like it, they adopt.

The tale your mate told you is just one of the ‘Urban Legends’ doing the rounds at the moment.

Cheers guys.

I thought that too, Coffee, but I had to ask.

:laughing: :laughing: :unamused:

But will the UK enforce it by fining foreign registered trucks?