Now if we were to get Aussie or Canaian drivers in, we could solve the driver shortage . . . . . .
. . . road trains! ‘G’day missus, sorry about your crushed Chelsea tractor there, not used to no space back home like.’
Maybe Denby will be lobbying next.
Just watch those insurance premiums rise as the shortage is resolved. 
Harry Monk:
but still you can’t stop ■■■■■■■■■■■■ into that blue and yellow flag.
Tbf if I had one of them blue and yellow flags that’s precisely one of the things I’d be doing into it.
Monkey241:
truckerjimbo:
You`ve had your 2 mins of FAME drivers !!!Here comes the cheap EE drivers again. Thanks to the Tories !!!
Now get back to work !!!
LMFAO
5000 visas?
Barely a drop in the ocean.
Starmer wants 10000.Remind me who supposedly represents the working man.
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Mr Starmer is far too busy worrying about the really important matters that affect our nation.
Franglais:
How many EU drivers will choose to come on a short term contract to the UK, (with our expensive and scarce housing and crap facilities) when they can go on an open ended contract anywhere else in the EU?Now we are out of the EU we are free to look further afield.
No need to employ expensive East Euro drivers when we are forging new trade deals with India etc.Welcome to Brexit…
There was already freedom to look further afield before Brexit, if you’re trying to insinuate that it has somehow unleashed greater possibilities for immigration.
Indeed, under Cameron and May, non-EU immigration soared to the all-time record level.
I think migration is still enormous - think 260,000 laat year more non-EU than EU
foresttrucker:
Keir Starmer: I will let in 100,000 foreign lorry drivers
It’s unfortunate to say, but the working man really does stand a better chance with the Tories at the moment, than with Labour.
Rjan:
Franglais:
How many EU drivers will choose to come on a short term contract to the UK, (with our expensive and scarce housing and crap facilities) when they can go on an open ended contract anywhere else in the EU?Now we are out of the EU we are free to look further afield.
No need to employ expensive East Euro drivers when we are forging new trade deals with India etc.Welcome to Brexit…
There was already freedom to look further afield before Brexit, if you’re trying to insinuate that it has somehow unleashed greater possibilities for immigration.
Indeed, under Cameron and May, non-EU immigration soared to the all-time record level.
The EU has indeed been looking further afield, drive in Europe and you’ll get the chance to chat to plenty of non EU drivers driving for EU companies all doing their bit to suppress wages. Plenty of info on how EU firms are treating non EU drivers I know it is hard for some to believe but exploitation also happens in that workers paradise that is the EU
Mazzer2:
I know it is hard for some to believe but exploitation also happens in that workers paradise that is the EU
The EU the home of the reduced 9 hour daily rest period.
The EU regs that Boris has kept us tied to.
"Sir Keir continued: 'For a long time we have known there is a problem with HGV drivers, that has been there for years.
‘But we knew in particular that when we exited the EU there would be a need for a back up plan to deal with the situation and there is no plan from the Government on this, and here we are, 100,000 needed and the Government is talking about 5,000 visas.’
Asked directly if he would bring in 100,000 foreign drivers if he was prime minister, Sir Keir said: ‘We are going to have to do that. We have to issue enough visas to cover the number of drivers that we need.’
So there we have it. Vote Labour if you want to be on the minimum wage.
Harry Monk:
So there we have it. Vote Labour if you want to be on the minimum wage.
More like do whatever it takes to join the rail industry as a driver.
As opposed to working in an industry with no future.
Not hearing anything about any train driver shortage.
Harry Monk:
"Sir Keir continued: 'For a long time we have known there is a problem with HGV drivers, that has been there for years.‘But we knew in particular that when we exited the EU there would be a need for a back up plan to deal with the situation and there is no plan from the Government on this, and here we are, 100,000 needed and the Government is talking about 5,000 visas.’
Asked directly if he would bring in 100,000 foreign drivers if he was prime minister, Sir Keir said: ‘We are going to have to do that. We have to issue enough visas to cover the number of drivers that we need.’
So there we have it. Vote Labour if you want to be on the minimum wage.
gov.uk/guidance/the-uks-poi … -in-the-uk
£26,500p.a. for basic week or the “going rate” if it is higher. About 14 quid an hour.
Im truly SHOCKED by the number of tory voting Truck driver there is !!! Im out.
No wonder your f…
truckerjimbo:
Im truly SHOCKED by the number of tory voting Truck driver there is !!! Im out.No wonder your f…
I think that reflects the political position of the Labour party as much as anything else, why would any working class person vote for a Labour party that puts their own international/global far left ideology before the British working class.
I think there’s a huge disconnect between the Labour party and the British working class 
truckerjimbo:
Im truly SHOCKED by the number of tory voting Truck driver there is !!! Im out.No wonder your f…
Probably because the Conservative party is more aligned with the working class than Labour!
Labour is no longer the voice for the working class, they are just champagne socialists with a far left agenda. We the plebs are just expendable pawns in their fight to introduce far left ideology.
They played a very smart hand and a long game. Infiltrated the Universities in the 1960’s, those students with the far left ideolgy ringing in their heads went on to become teachers who had infected the schools in the 70’s and 80’s so those kids were fed anti Thatcher and far left garbage.
Today its everywhere, from the BBC to boardrooms of large corporations, like a cancer that has goten into the core of a body.
Mr Starmer is far too busy worrying about the really important matters that affect our nation.
He has a bit more to worry about today -
Labour conference: Frontbencher Andy McDonald quits in protest at Sir Keir Starmer
Shadow cabinet member Andy McDonald has quit Labour’s frontbench with a scathing attack on Sir Keir Starmer.
In his resignation letter - published in the middle of Labour’s party conference in Brighton - the MP said his party leader had made Labour “more divided than ever”.
Mr McDonald also accused him of not honouring his pledges to members.
Sir Keir thanked the former minister for his service but said his focus was on “winning the next general election”.
Mr McDonald previously served as shadow transport secretary on Jeremy Corbyn’s frontbench - but he became one of the few members to survive the handover of power to Sir Keir, and stayed in the top team as shadow secretary for employment rights and protections.
In recent months, his focus had been on creating Labour’s new programme of employment rights, which was unveiled at the conference on Saturday by deputy leader Angela Rayner.
‘Closing the door’
But earlier this week, former shadow chancellor John McDonnell said the work had been overshadowed by Sir Keir’s controversial party rule changes.
Mr McDonald said he accepted the job “because I wanted to fight for the working people of this country”, but, he wrote: “It has become clear to me that I cannot do this as a member of the shadow cabinet.”
Sources close to Sir Keir told the BBC they were not unhappy at the departure, insisting this week was “all about change and closing the door on the Corbyn era”.
Labour MP Barry Gardiner - who served alongside Mr McDonald in Mr Corbyn’s cabinet - told the BBC he was “extremely shocked” to hear of the resignation, saying he had been “a very powerful voice for workers in the country”.
But the founder of left wing Labour activist group Momentum, Jon Lansman, joined Mr McDonald’s criticism of Sir Keir, telling BBC News: “He promised to unite the party and actually, unfortunately, he’s driving wedges within the party.”
Shadow work and pensions secretary Jonathan Reynolds said Mr McDonald “is a friend of mine” and he was “sad to see him go”.
But he disagreed with the remarks about division in the party, adding: “We have seen this conference, frankly, Labour facing towards the general election in a way that is not just ambitious in terms of the pledges… but we have also tried to do that in a gain that gains credibility that is required to win power”.
As news of the resignation broke in the conference hall, one delegate shouted, “Andy McDonald, solidarity!” to loud cheers from some parts of the crowd.
‘Bitter blow’
He said it was “something I could not do”, adding: "After many months of a pandemic when we made commitments to stand by key workers, I cannot now look those same workers in the eye and tell them they are not worth a wage that is enough to live on, or that they don’t deserve security when they are ill.
Mr McDonald said it was a “bitter blow” that Labour had not followed the country in its “renewed awareness of how important the work done by millions of low-paid workers truly is”.
He added: "I joined your frontbench team on the basis of the pledges that you made in the leadership campaign to bring about unity within the party and maintain our commitment to socialist policies.
“After 18 months of your leadership, our movement is more divided than ever and the pledges that you made to the membership.”
Responding to the letter, Sir Keir released a statement, which said: "I want to thank Andy for his service in the shadow cabinet.
"Labour’s comprehensive New Deal for Working People shows the scale of our ambition and where our priorities lie.
“My focus and that of the whole party is on winning the next general election so we can deliver for working people who need a Labour government.”
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58713175
Bin Man:
Mr Starmer is far too busy worrying about the really important matters that affect our nation.
He has a bit more to worry about today -
Labour conference: Frontbencher Andy McDonald quits in protest at Sir Keir Starmer
Shadow cabinet member Andy McDonald has quit Labour’s frontbench with a scathing attack on Sir Keir Starmer.
In his resignation letter - published in the middle of Labour’s party conference in Brighton - the MP said his party leader had made Labour “more divided than ever”.
Mr McDonald also accused him of not honouring his pledges to members.
Sir Keir thanked the former minister for his service but said his focus was on “winning the next general election”.
Mr McDonald previously served as shadow transport secretary on Jeremy Corbyn’s frontbench - but he became one of the few members to survive the handover of power to Sir Keir, and stayed in the top team as shadow secretary for employment rights and protections.
In recent months, his focus had been on creating Labour’s new programme of employment rights, which was unveiled at the conference on Saturday by deputy leader Angela Rayner.‘Closing the door’
But earlier this week, former shadow chancellor John McDonnell said the work had been overshadowed by Sir Keir’s controversial party rule changes.
Mr McDonald said he accepted the job “because I wanted to fight for the working people of this country”, but, he wrote: “It has become clear to me that I cannot do this as a member of the shadow cabinet.”
Sources close to Sir Keir told the BBC they were not unhappy at the departure, insisting this week was “all about change and closing the door on the Corbyn era”.
Labour MP Barry Gardiner - who served alongside Mr McDonald in Mr Corbyn’s cabinet - told the BBC he was “extremely shocked” to hear of the resignation, saying he had been “a very powerful voice for workers in the country”.
But the founder of left wing Labour activist group Momentum, Jon Lansman, joined Mr McDonald’s criticism of Sir Keir, telling BBC News: “He promised to unite the party and actually, unfortunately, he’s driving wedges within the party.”
Shadow work and pensions secretary Jonathan Reynolds said Mr McDonald “is a friend of mine” and he was “sad to see him go”.
But he disagreed with the remarks about division in the party, adding: “We have seen this conference, frankly, Labour facing towards the general election in a way that is not just ambitious in terms of the pledges… but we have also tried to do that in a gain that gains credibility that is required to win power”.
As news of the resignation broke in the conference hall, one delegate shouted, “Andy McDonald, solidarity!” to loud cheers from some parts of the crowd.‘Bitter blow’
He said it was “something I could not do”, adding: "After many months of a pandemic when we made commitments to stand by key workers, I cannot now look those same workers in the eye and tell them they are not worth a wage that is enough to live on, or that they don’t deserve security when they are ill.
Mr McDonald said it was a “bitter blow” that Labour had not followed the country in its “renewed awareness of how important the work done by millions of low-paid workers truly is”.
He added: "I joined your frontbench team on the basis of the pledges that you made in the leadership campaign to bring about unity within the party and maintain our commitment to socialist policies.
“After 18 months of your leadership, our movement is more divided than ever and the pledges that you made to the membership.”
Responding to the letter, Sir Keir released a statement, which said: "I want to thank Andy for his service in the shadow cabinet.
"Labour’s comprehensive New Deal for Working People shows the scale of our ambition and where our priorities lie.
“My focus and that of the whole party is on winning the next general election so we can deliver for working people who need a Labour government.”
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58713175
But according to Lisa Nandy in 18 months they are going to be the party of government nothing like being deluded until they realise the problem they will never solve it
Franglais:
Harry Monk:
"Sir Keir continued: 'For a long time we have known there is a problem with HGV drivers, that has been there for years.‘But we knew in particular that when we exited the EU there would be a need for a back up plan to deal with the situation and there is no plan from the Government on this, and here we are, 100,000 needed and the Government is talking about 5,000 visas.’
Asked directly if he would bring in 100,000 foreign drivers if he was prime minister, Sir Keir said: ‘We are going to have to do that. We have to issue enough visas to cover the number of drivers that we need.’
So there we have it. Vote Labour if you want to be on the minimum wage.
gov.uk/guidance/the-uks-poi … -in-the-uk
£26,500p.a. for basic week or the “going rate” if it is higher. About 14 quid an hour.
Yeah right. It doesn’t say that that has to be for 40 hrs or less. That is the going rate for many Mon-Fri jobs in haulage. The DWP is not going to query the hours, if a company says they are paying their prospective driver £27.000 per annum…
Harry Monk:
whisperingsmith:
> mike68:
> Why would they leave their own country to work here until Christmas, the uncertainty still around covid travel rules ridiculously high rents why would anyone do it, would any of you go to Poland to work until Christmas no like ****.Looks like any UK driver with EU relatives that can get him/her an EU passport is more likely to move to the EE/Mainland Europe for a driving job than an EU citizen coming to the UK.
The one blessing of the ending of Free Movement is that UK HGV drivers are now trapped in the UK and can’t move to the EU where major initiatives are in progress to improve wages & conditions and a Euro Billions EU wide program to build more parking and facilities.
If we had free movement we could lose even more drivers and EE/EU drivers are unlikely to take a wage & conditions cut to come to UK Brexit Plague Island
You Remoaners just won’t give it a rest, will you? The eu is like a religion to you. We’ve seen unprecedented pay rises this year, fifteen years of wage stagnation reversed in one short Summer and greater than I’ve known in over 35 years in the job but still you can’t stop ■■■■■■■■■■■■ into that blue and yellow flag.
I’m sorry to burst your bubble but the 3 flags I own are all Bristol rovers flags , one is blue ( I’m sure there a picture on here from years ago of it in my lorry at the time ) ,I’ve a black & yellow Bristol rovers one , and a Union Jack one from 40 yrs ago , I’ve no eu flag , I’ve no interest in the eu , I didn’t give them a 2 nd thought , but my life was fine , why change something your happy with , money is not my priority , I’m 60 , I’ve got everything I want ( other than my health
I do find you all hypocritical though , as you all voted to leave as you obviously weren’t happy , you criticised being in the eu , but now when we criticise this mess , we’re called moaners , double standards I’d say
Like I say you & the rest of the leave vote on here seem to be totally obsessed with money , as long as your earning god knows what your happy , if the country falls apart , people’s life’s are ruined you don’t seem to care , me I’ve not got that obsession with money , I’d do 5 days not 3 , b/h etc if I did , life to me now is about more than money ,
dozy:
Like I say you & the rest of the leave vote on here seem to be totally obsessed with money , as long as your earning god knows what your happy , if the country falls apart , people’s life’s are ruined you don’t seem to care , me I’ve not got that obsession with money , I’d do 5 days not 3 , b/h etc if I did , life to me now is about more than money ,
I don’t have an obsession with money. If I did, I wouldn’t spend half the year tossing around on a narrowboat when I could be earning, would I? But I make no apologies for being glad to see the end of 15+ years of wage stagnation in the haulage game, I’m surprised that any truck driver could get bent out of shape about it.
Sand Fisher:
Now if we were to get Aussie or Canaian drivers in, we could solve the driver shortage . . . . . .. . . road trains! ‘G’day missus, sorry about your crushed Chelsea tractor there, not used to no space back home like.’
Maybe Denby will be lobbying next.
Just watch those insurance premiums rise as the shortage is resolved.
What you talking about? Roads and motorways are approx same size as uk … don’t let the size of Australia fool you…. As for road trains never seen one where I live in nsw … only a B- Double. … drive around Sydney , same as London no space to move a truck.
