Uk domestic hours?

NEW AND WANNABE DRIVERS (INTERACTIVE)
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hello got a job driving refuse lorry for the local council but they run on tacho card.
they come under uk domestic drivers hours?
is that 6 working/driving mixed you need to take a 30 mins break ?
any help to clear this up would be help full :confused:
thankyou

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15 mins

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if its for the council dont worry, the other guys will take breaks well within the legal max… but the max is 6 hours work or 4.5 hours driving before a break, whichever is soonest. 15 mins for the 6 hours and 45 mins for the 4.5 but councils do not like to see infractions

iain

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cozzer1:
hello got a job driving refuse lorry for the local council but they run on tacho card.
they come under uk domestic drivers hours?
is that 6 working/driving mixed you need to take a 30 mins break ?
any help to clear this up would be help full :confused:
thankyou

When you’re working to domestic regulations you can forget the RT(WT)R 2005.

The RT(WT)R 2005 only apply when you’re driving to EU regulations.

When driving to domestic rules you come under the general WTD otherwise known as “The Working Time Regulations 1998”, the only stipulation I can see is that if your daily working time exceeds 6 hours you’re entitled to a break of at-least 20 minutes but it doesn’t have to be taken before exceeding 6 hours working time.

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hi thanks came across this
wtd
After 6 hours work/driving you must have a break: Minimum 30 minutes.
(Usually, however, Drivers will have had a 45 driving break before reaching the 6 hour point so this will not apply).
A break of 30 minutes is required for 6-9 hours work; 45 minutes for over 9 hours.
Breaks can be divided into 15 minute slots. First break must be at least 30 minutes.
Where mixed driving and working is carried out, the drivers’ hours rules on breaks (EC/3820/85) take precedence.

tachotutorial.com/Drivers_Hours.asp

off this page?

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cozzer1:
First break must be at least 30 minutes.

Don’t you mean second break must be at least 30 minutes

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Noworries:

cozzer1:
First break must be at least 30 minutes.

Don’t you mean second break must be at least 30 minutes

No. As stated, this driver will be on DOMESTIC hours NOT EU/EC and WTD as such doesn’t apply.

Same as the buses. 5 hour driving stints with a half hour break then back on for another 5. We can work 7 days a week one week and 6 days the second week but we need a day off in a fortnight.

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welder:
if its for the council dont worry, the other guys will take breaks well within the legal max… but the max is 6 hours work or 4.5 hours driving before a break, whichever is soonest. 15 mins for the 6 hours and 45 mins for the 4.5 but councils do not like to see infractions

iain

not sure about this :open_mouth: if vosa inspected the yard im in at just now on agency they would have an absolute ■■■■■■■ field day. i’m sick tellin em but now i just give up, as long as my ■■■ is covered.

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so if iam working from 7 am to 3 pm 8 hours day
then 12.0/clock i will take a break for 30 mins
on uk domestic hours would this be ok?
sorry iam new to this.
iam old school log book only for the last 25 years :blush:

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cozzer1:
so if iam working from 7 am to 3 pm 8 hours day
then 12.0/clock i will take a break for 30 mins
on uk domestic hours would this be ok?
sorry iam new to this.
iam old school log only for the last 25 years :blush:

As you’re on domestic rules you don 't need to worry about the 6 hour rule just take a break whenever you like, so 20 or more minutes at some time in the day should be fine for the general WTD which is what you’re working to.

cozzer1:
I am old school, log only for the last 25 years :blush:

Lucky bugger :smiley: :wink:

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hi
any help
i am drive refusse lorrie on the council and they are under domestic rules
i started a 7.10 drove untiull 11.33 that stop start as you do with a bin lorrie.
so had a 30 odd mins break so pressed break on tacho
iam out of scrope on tacho but after driving 10 mins the break started to flash again?
checked tacho and still running out of scope.
is there a fault on tacho. phoned the transport manager and he say its ok? :confused:

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cozzer1:
hi
any help
i am drive refusse lorrie on the council and they are under domestic rules
i started a 7.10 drove untiull 11.33 that stop start as you do with a bin lorrie.
so had a 30 odd mins break so pressed break on tacho
iam out of scrope on tacho but after driving 10 mins the break started to flash again?
checked tacho and still running out of scope.
is there a fault on tacho. phoned the transport manager and he say its ok? :confused:

No it’s not a fault on your tachograph it’s just the way it works.

The only thing that happens when you put the tachograph on “out of scope” is that it marks on the record when you went out of scope and when you came back into scope, it doesn’t actually affect how the tachograph operates.

As far as I’m aware the tachograph will still ■■■■■ at you about taking your break but as you’re out of scope you can just ignore it.

You was right to check that the tachograph was still on out of scope though :wink:

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nice one mate
abit worried about :frowning:
when you put it on a break do you have to come out off scope or press the 1 key to bed while in the
out of scope mode?
was not sure?
thanks for the fast reply
thanks

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I don’t think I’ve ever actually had a break whilst the tachograph was on “out of scope” but anyway you don’t need to come back in scope for breaks, actually there’s no point in putting the tachograph back in-scope because if you’re not driving in-scope on a particular day you don’t need to show the breaks anyway, so just press the 1 button to put the tachograph on break :wink: