Uber Self-Driving Truck Makes First Delivery

bloomberg.com/news/articles … n-colorado

The Otto self-driving 18-wheeler cruised more than 120 miles while the truck driver hung out back in the sleeper cab.
A tractor trailer full of beer drove itself down Colorado’s I-25 last week with nobody behind the wheel. Uber Technologies Inc. and Anheuser-Busch InBev NV teamed up on the delivery, which they said is the first time a self-driving truck had been used to make a commercial shipment.
With a police cruiser in tow, the 18-wheeler cruised more than 120 miles while a truck driver hung out back in the sleeper cab, the companies said. The delivery appears to be mostly a stunt—proof that Otto, the self-driving vehicle group that Uber acquired in July, could successfully put an autonomous truck into the wild.

“We wanted to show that the basic building blocks of the technology are here; we have the capability of doing that on a highway,” said Lior Ron, the president and co-founder of Uber’s Otto unit. “We are still in the development stages, iterating on the hardware and software.”

AB InBev said it could save $50 million a year in the U.S. if the beverage giant could deploy autonomous trucks across its distribution network, even if drivers continued to ride along and supplement the technology. Those savings would come from reduced fuel costs and a more frequent delivery schedule.

Otto spent two weeks carefully mapping the road to make sure the technology could handle it.Source: Aether Films
Proving the viability of autonomous trucking has become more important amid mounting regulatory and public scrutiny. Surveys show most Americans aren’t sold on the technology. The U.S. trucking industry is particularly sensitive to it. While fatalities in the industry far exceed those of other businesses and could therefore benefit from improved safety, it employed 1.5 million people in September, jobs that may be threatened by autonomous vehicles.

The death of a driver using Tesla Motors Inc.'s autopilot system in May has focused political attention on self-driving vehicles and hastened calls for regulations to keep pace with the technological advances. The U.S. Transportation Department released policy guidelines for autonomous driving, which acknowledged the technology’s life-saving potential while warning of a world of “human guinea pigs.”

Uber’s Otto team worked with Colorado regulators to get permission for the delivery and to arrange for police supervision of the shipment, said Ron. Otto spent two weeks scoping out the driving route from Fort Collins to Colorado Springs, carefully mapping the road to make sure the technology could handle it. The team wanted the trip to take place in the early morning when traffic would be relatively light and on a day when the weather was clear. Those conditions were met last Thursday, when the delivery took place.
Ron said Uber does not plan to build its own trucks and instead wants to partner with automakers, as it’s doing with Volvo on self-driving cars. He said the company’s discussions with truck manufacturers are in early phases.

The software still has a long way to go, too. The autonomous drive in Colorado was limited to the highway, meaning truck drivers shouldn’t have to worry about finding a new profession anytime soon. “The focus has really been and will be for the future on the highway. Over 95 percent of the hours driven are on the highway,” Ron said. “Even in the future as we start doing more, we still think a driver is needed in terms of supervising the vehicle.”

all fine and good until they decide the “human” is only needed at both ends of the trip …Then who fits the snow chains when needed …and a breakdown occurs and warning triangles need to be put out(by law).

JIMBO47:
all fine and good until they decide the “human” is only needed at both ends of the trip …Then who fits the snow chains when needed …and a breakdown occurs and warning triangles need to be put out(by law).

Jimbo you need to get up to speed with technology.
The things you mention are not a problem these days.
Why do some not want to believe what is going to happen sooner rather than later.

It’s the future, if we like it or not.

My great grandfather did removels with a flat hand powered car.
My grandfather delivered good with horse and cart
My Dad drove international with a 6.4 tonner Hanomag Henshel and a Opel Blitz (with petrol engine)
I started driving on truck who properly had to be “fired” up in the winter (a burning newspaper in the inlet and a burning rag under the engine and fuel tank) and a constant mesh gearbox)

And all of us though that the next step never would happen, but: sleeper cabs came, air suspension, power steering, power brakes, cab heaters, automated gearboxes, air suspended seats, radio and tv in the cab, airco, you name it.
A self driving truck is only the next expectable step, and probably closer than we think.

But the question remains, in which mode will the tachograph be :wink: :wink:

its all well and good but who carries the can when it all goes wrong and it will go wrong, thats why there is still a 'driver ’ i cant imagine anyone in an office taking the blame

Ok so it unloads the truck re loads with whatever unloads at the other end fuels the truck puts the trailer on the bay on its return…and then what.

Notimetoulouse:
its all well and good but who carries the can when it all goes wrong and it will go wrong, thats why there is still a 'driver ’ i cant imagine anyone in an office taking the blame

Maybe so but it will not be as bad as a dozy driver behind the wheel and it won’t go wrong nearly as often.
Drivers have brought this on themselves with the poor standard of driving on our roads everyday and the ridiculous amount of accidents.

I’m not convinced it will ever happen here in Britain, the roads are too choked with traffic, due to the country being massively overpopulated, and the number of variances and interactions with other vehicles are countless, there is no way a machine can possibly make the judgements needed, if there is such a machine it will cost far in excess of any potential money saving by removal of drivers, then look at the problems that are being encountered now with vehicles, the self driving lorry will be too complicated for its own good.

Of course if they build designated roads for autonomous lorries, with guidance systems laid out and a layout where they don’t have to interact with manned vehicles then it might work…we could call this system a railway, i think i’ll patent it.

Seriously though i can forsee a time when private and commercial traffic are segregated, and when that happens just like on the railways the good vehicles will have to stop at regular intervals to allow private traffic priority, so operation stack like queues may well be the daily norm for lorryists of 30 years time.
I doubt the vast majority of those who post here will be replaced by machines.

Uncle Albie:

JIMBO47:
all fine and good until they decide the “human” is only needed at both ends of the trip …Then who fits the snow chains when needed …and a breakdown occurs and warning triangles need to be put out(by law).

Jimbo you need to get up to speed with technology.
The things you mention are not a problem these days.
Why do some not want to believe what is going to happen sooner rather than later.

■■? not a problem ok …trucks break down ,who is putting the triangles out its the law over here …the first time an unaccompanied OTTO truck breaks down and someone piles into it … next one its in Colorado the high country its snows a lot so OTTO trucks will only run in good weather? …yup its going to happen no doubt about that, big business rules the roost in the USA and can change laws to suit ie learner class 1 drivers being able to drive when their trainer is in the bunk sleeping. I have only 8 more years to go and for sure OTTO trucks cant do the work I’m on so I will watch with amazement as the OTR section of driving is gone. mmm caledoniandream I think its more who are the warehouse staff going to whine at then!

JIMBO47:

Uncle Albie:

JIMBO47:
all fine and good until they decide the “human” is only needed at both ends of the trip …Then who fits the snow chains when needed …and a breakdown occurs and warning triangles need to be put out(by law).

Jimbo you need to get up to speed with technology.
The things you mention are not a problem these days.
Why do some not want to believe what is going to happen sooner rather than later.

■■? not a problem ok …trucks break down ,who is putting the triangles out its the law over here …the first time an unaccompanied OTTO truck breaks down and someone piles into it … next one its in Colorado the high country its snows a lot so OTTO trucks will only run in good weather? …yup its going to happen no doubt about that, big business rules the roost in the USA and can change laws to suit ie learner class 1 drivers being able to drive when their trainer is in the bunk sleeping. I have only 8 more years to go and for sure OTTO trucks cant do the work I’m on so I will watch with amazement as the OTR section of driving is gone. mmm caledoniandream I think its more who are the warehouse staff going to whine at then!

Which warehouse staff?
They will be all replaced by computers and robots.

But there is one slight problem, an anecdote from the past makes it all clear:

Walther Reuter, a Union leader;
In January 1958 Walter Reuther gave testimony at a Senate subcommittee hearing, and he repeated the anecdote. However, the wording of the exchange was slightly altered again [WRSC]:

In 1951, the Ford Motor Co. opened up a new engine plant in Cleveland, Ohio, adjacent to the municipal airport. It was the first fully automated engine plant. … I went through that plant many years back…

So they said to me, “Aren’t you worried about how you are going to collect union dues from all of these machines?”

I said, “the thought never occurred to me. The thought that occurred to me was how are you going to sell cars to these machines?” You know you can make automobiles, but consumers are still made in the good old fashioned way.” [Laughter.]

We are almost at the end of pre-automation society - where machines are designed as tools that help a worker be more productive; and we are already in early-automation at the moment - as the suits try to replace workers with machines in the quest for profits.

Automation will grow and grow, until such a point that it reaches saturation point. Saturation point isn’t the limit of machines replacing humans in terms of ability, it is the limit of machines replacing humans in terms of profit.

Post-automation society will see the reintroduction of human workers, as companies exploit the profit advantage of trading off some efficiency in exchange for lower operating costs - where workers become so cheap in comparison to the more efficient machines.

Uncle Albie:

JIMBO47:
all fine and good until they decide the “human” is only needed at both ends of the trip …Then who fits the snow chains when needed …and a breakdown occurs and warning triangles need to be put out(by law).

Jimbo you need to get up to speed with technology.
The things you mention are not a problem these days.
Why do some not want to believe what is going to happen sooner rather than later.

Whit?
The need for snow chains is “not a problem these days”? Neither is putting a warning triangle out?
Ill take a couple of grams of what ever you’ve taken

zaax:
Otto spent two weeks carefully mapping the road

We’ll im sure it’ll be fine when some monkey in an office is harassed and throws the data for the route in after a quick 3 minute squint at a map with an angry customer on the phone then

The-Snowman:

Uncle Albie:

JIMBO47:
all fine and good until they decide the “human” is only needed at both ends of the trip …Then who fits the snow chains when needed …and a breakdown occurs and warning triangles need to be put out(by law).

Jimbo you need to get up to speed with technology.
The things you mention are not a problem these days.
Why do some not want to believe what is going to happen sooner rather than later.

Whit?
The need for snow chains is “not a problem these days”? Neither is putting a warning triangle out?
Ill take a couple of grams of what ever you’ve taken

Automated snow chains are there since the early nineties, and plenty used on the continent.
Don’t need a triangle out as these vehicles are made to avoid each other.
I expect there will be first self driving cars, to get the dumbness out of the traffic, than trucks.
The advantage would be that you can optimise the use of the tarmac, as lanes become less important and vehicles can choose the lane what is available
E.g you can have in the morning 10 lanes going east, while only one going west, during the day you can constantly change that on demand.
It becomes very boring (or maybe not as we thought we would fell asleep, when they introduced power steering, automated gearboxes, drivers who don’t off-load etc)

Has a steer axle blow out been tested out on these autonomous vehicles, car or truck?

yup seen the auto chains (the ones on the spinner ) and know a fella that has them fitted and he says the big problem with them is after a few inches of snow forget about them ,they are as much use as the wire chains and not in the same class as proper chains.

The-Snowman:

zaax:
Otto spent two weeks carefully mapping the road

We’ll im sure it’ll be fine when some monkey in an office is harassed and throws the data for the route in after a quick 3 minute squint at a map with an angry customer on the phone then

And I can’t wait to see what it will do when a block of cars nose to tail come out of a short slip road like roadworks (M3 :imp:).
Will it slam on the anchors and let them out, or say stuff them and make them pile up at the end?
I doubt it will be able to distinguish them as individual cars…

caledoniandream:
Don’t need a triangle out as these vehicles are made to avoid each other.
I expect there will be first self driving cars, to get the dumbness out of the traffic, than trucks.

They might be made to avoid each other, but they’ll still be sharing the road with human controlled vehicles and also vehicles breakdown regardless of what system is driving them.

I think commercial transport will be automated before private transport. As Slowlane has already said profit come first and throughout history this has proved to be the case. Sad for those that want to drive and remember the freedom it used to offer.

The problem for governments really is how are you going yo deal with all those unskilled and semi skilled workers whose jobs have been automated before it leads to civil unrest.

muckles:
The problem for governments really is how are you going yo deal with all those unskilled and semi skilled workers whose jobs have been automated before it leads to civil unrest.

Start a foreign war. It’s what they usually do to cull the population. Cynical? Me? Never.

the maoster:

muckles:
The problem for governments really is how are you going yo deal with all those unskilled and semi skilled workers whose jobs have been automated before it leads to civil unrest.

Start a foreign war. It’s what they usually do to cull the population. Cynical? Me? Never.

Arn’t they trying to provoke war with Russia as we speak, if they elect Clinton and her banker’s puppet regime then we draw perilously close to the day.

Muckles raises a good point, when there are too few people in decent jobs who exactly is going to pay for all this progress, and to keep the then legion of those with no meaningful jobs at all.
They can only print so much fake money, quantitive easing my arse.

Hopefully i won’t be around to see the wailing and anguish when the whole bloody house of borrowed cards comes tumbling down, pretty it won’t be.