seems very complicated, been offered weds to sun nights at soham,basic is about £7-80 with a very complicated productivity package,anybody got any info? ty
On nights for £7.80…did i hear right…seven pounds eighty an hour on nights…if thats the case…sorry but i really wouldnt miss my bed for that.
Sorry I can’t help on those figures, but here’s some that will link in to the subject based on the mention of a low wage and Turners…
33/1. Turners driver posts about how good it is
30/1. Ex Turners driver posts how good it used to be until…
10/1. The Polish turned up
9/1 . That gets turned into the usual EE driver bashing
7/1 . Some one posts up a copy of a supermarket drivers advert for more an hour
6/1. Anything Aldi
3/1. Anything union
Evens. Some Juddian random stuff
1/2 . “This wouldn’t happen if we all stuck together” whilst forgetting the whole point of free labour movement across Europe
1/4 leading to some Romanian bashing
1/10 Carryfast turns up and spends several pages blaming Thatcher, Ford, the Nazis.
No odds available on anything Stobarts.
Thinks that’s everything covered?
suetay:
seems very complicated, been offered weds to sun nights at soham,basic is about £7-80 with a very complicated productivity package,anybody got any info? ty
I worked for them for three days in 2001 and the left hand didn’t know what the right hand was doing then so nothing has changed. Try Jack Richards at Newmarket got to be better money there.
Put it this way you can go to Aldi and earn just under £17 an hour on nights. I hope you do the right thing & politely decline [emoji23][emoji23]
I do understand everyone’s viewpoint on the pay, but i’m new to class1 and need the experience
Max hours for newbie’s at turner’s is well known. Also getting the better jobs the regulars don’t want, there’s better firms I would guess locally.
Were are you. As Cambridgeshire is a large-ish county.
suetay:
I do understand everyone’s viewpoint on the pay, but i’m new to class1 and need the experience
You should add to that ‘but don’t need the comfort of my own bed at night or much money!’
I can empathize with your situation but as waddy640 says, Jack Richards isn’t the best payer but I believe they will take new passes - what did you do before you got your article licence?
suetay:
I do understand everyone’s viewpoint on the pay, but i’m new to class1 and need the experience
There’s experience and there is depression from working through the night risking your life for 7 quid an hour…
Take the job & look for something else in the meantime. no one can explain the productivity bonus…it might be good?
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suetay:
I do understand everyone’s viewpoint on the pay, but i’m new to class1 and need the experience
Agency will pay you more and a lot are desperate for bums on seats. It will also give you some experience of different types of driving. That money is a joke for any time or job. Doing it for that money only brings the wages down for all of us. Good luck and keep looking
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I worked for them for a short period, and I would say to avoid.
In 2016 it was £7.08 basic pay per hour. So pretty-much minimum wage. You got the overtime rate after 8 hours, which was time-and-a-quarter. So £8.85 O/T rate per hour.
The “productivity” bonus was done with “productivity hours”. Each “productivity hour” was equivalent to a £2.96 bonus. I can’t remember the exact figures, but you got X amount of productivity hours per Y amount of KMs driven. You also got X amount of productivity hours per load, and per tip. So you’d add up all of your productivity hours every week, and you’d get £2.96 bonus for each one. In general, I tended to get around £60 per week in productivity bonuses. So about 20 productivity hours per week.
You also got £5 per day fuel efficiency bonus if you hit their Isotrak targets (their fleet is HEAVILY micromanaged, with trackers, driver-facing cameras, etc).
Nights out were £25 per night. £5 of which was a meal allowance. If you didn’t do a night out, you just got the £5 meal allowance.
All-in-all, as a Monday to Friday tramper, I’d be looking at around £620 per week gross with 60 hours. This included £100 in tax-free allowances.
If you worked for one of their satellite depots, some worked on a day-rate. This was £105 Monday to Friday, £120 Saturday, and £138 Sunday.
You can be your own judge, but what they paid wasn’t worth what they expected from you.
Rottweiler22:
I worked for them for a short period, and I would say to avoid.In 2016 it was £7.08 basic pay per hour. So pretty-much minimum wage. You got the overtime rate after 8 hours, which was time-and-a-quarter. So £8.85 O/T rate per hour.
The “productivity” bonus was done with “productivity hours”. Each “productivity hour” was equivalent to a £2.96 bonus. I can’t remember the exact figures, but you got X amount of productivity hours per Y amount of KMs driven. You also got X amount of productivity hours per load, and per tip. So you’d add up all of your productivity hours every week, and you’d get £2.96 bonus for each one. In general, I tended to get around £60 per week in productivity bonuses. So about 20 productivity hours per week.
You also got £5 per day fuel efficiency bonus if you hit their Isotrak targets (their fleet is HEAVILY micromanaged, with trackers, driver-facing cameras, etc).
Nights out were £25 per night. £5 of which was a meal allowance. If you didn’t do a night out, you just got the £5 meal allowance.
All-in-all, as a Monday to Friday tramper, I’d be looking at around £620 per week gross with 60 hours. This included £100 in tax-free allowances.
If you worked for one of their satellite depots, some worked on a day-rate. This was £105 Monday to Friday, £120 Saturday, and £138 Sunday.
You can be your own judge, but what they paid wasn’t worth what they expected from you.
yes that’s the sort of thing they said, ty for responding
suetay:
Rottweiler22:
I worked for them for a short period, and I would say to avoid.In 2016 it was £7.08 basic pay per hour. So pretty-much minimum wage. You got the overtime rate after 8 hours, which was time-and-a-quarter. So £8.85 O/T rate per hour.
The “productivity” bonus was done with “productivity hours”. Each “productivity hour” was equivalent to a £2.96 bonus. I can’t remember the exact figures, but you got X amount of productivity hours per Y amount of KMs driven. You also got X amount of productivity hours per load, and per tip. So you’d add up all of your productivity hours every week, and you’d get £2.96 bonus for each one. In general, I tended to get around £60 per week in productivity bonuses. So about 20 productivity hours per week.
You also got £5 per day fuel efficiency bonus if you hit their Isotrak targets (their fleet is HEAVILY micromanaged, with trackers, driver-facing cameras, etc).
Nights out were £25 per night. £5 of which was a meal allowance. If you didn’t do a night out, you just got the £5 meal allowance.
All-in-all, as a Monday to Friday tramper, I’d be looking at around £620 per week gross with 60 hours. This included £100 in tax-free allowances.
If you worked for one of their satellite depots, some worked on a day-rate. This was £105 Monday to Friday, £120 Saturday, and £138 Sunday.
You can be your own judge, but what they paid wasn’t worth what they expected from you.
yes that’s the sort of thing they said, ty for responding
I started at Bicker last year and as said above it was day rate.
I got £650 gross for Sunday to Thursday including meal allowance and fuel bonus, easy to achieve. That for the area isn’t bad.
I won’t lie i did a lot of long days and a lot on the back with a manual truck as well as Lidl and Aldi.
However on the plus I was a new pass and they gave me a start. First 2 weeks were with another driver who taught me a huge amount.
I struggled with reversing and spoke to the driver trainer and was in the yard practicing with him at the end of the week.
I was never asked or expected to run bent. I would more likely to be sacked for doing so than not. Trucks were older but all maintained and if was a defect it was put right or swap units no expectations to take it out.
Plenty of ex drivers in the office so they were realistic and also able to advise on finding places.
I did 6 months and then moved on for personal reasons rather than the job itself but I still think it was a good place to start.
The experience has opened far more doors for me and have moved on to better things. I think there are far worse places to start
kcrussell25:
suetay:
Rottweiler22:
I worked for them for a short period, and I would say to avoid.In 2016 it was £7.08 basic pay per hour. So pretty-much minimum wage. You got the overtime rate after 8 hours, which was time-and-a-quarter. So £8.85 O/T rate per hour.
The “productivity” bonus was done with “productivity hours”. Each “productivity hour” was equivalent to a £2.96 bonus. I can’t remember the exact figures, but you got X amount of productivity hours per Y amount of KMs driven. You also got X amount of productivity hours per load, and per tip. So you’d add up all of your productivity hours every week, and you’d get £2.96 bonus for each one. In general, I tended to get around £60 per week in productivity bonuses. So about 20 productivity hours per week.
You also got £5 per day fuel efficiency bonus if you hit their Isotrak targets (their fleet is HEAVILY micromanaged, with trackers, driver-facing cameras, etc).
Nights out were £25 per night. £5 of which was a meal allowance. If you didn’t do a night out, you just got the £5 meal allowance.
All-in-all, as a Monday to Friday tramper, I’d be looking at around £620 per week gross with 60 hours. This included £100 in tax-free allowances.
If you worked for one of their satellite depots, some worked on a day-rate. This was £105 Monday to Friday, £120 Saturday, and £138 Sunday.
You can be your own judge, but what they paid wasn’t worth what they expected from you.
yes that’s the sort of thing they said, ty for responding
I started at Bicker last year and as said above it was day rate.
I got £650 gross for Sunday to Thursday including meal allowance and fuel bonus, easy to achieve. That for the area isn’t bad.
I won’t lie i did a lot of long days and a lot on the back with a manual truck as well as Lidl and Aldi.
However on the plus I was a new pass and they gave me a start. First 2 weeks were with another driver who taught me a huge amount.
I struggled with reversing and spoke to the driver trainer and was in the yard practicing with him at the end of the week.
I was never asked or expected to run bent. I would more likely to be sacked for doing so than not. Trucks were older but all maintained and if was a defect it was put right or swap units no expectations to take it out.
Plenty of ex drivers in the office so they were realistic and also able to advise on finding places.
I did 6 months and then moved on for personal reasons rather than the job itself but I still think it was a good place to start.
The experience has opened far more doors for me and have moved on to better things. I think there are far worse places to start
yes it’s my reversing that is the problem,yes the basic wage is appalling but with the productivity it may be ok. either way if in 2-3 months i’m not happy with the pay/job, I hope to be in a position to move on with confidence, ty for replying
Hi Suetay
You can get paid £11 per hour paye as an agency driver there and £13 per hour Saturday and Sunday all hours worked. Breaks are unpaid but obviously loading / tipping / poa is all paid.
A good way to get the experience is agency weekends doing the local drop / swaps and customer collections i.e Watton and Barway … not many people around at weekends and you can take as many goes at reversing as you want.
Another easy run is Newmarket to Barton Park ( Scotch Corner ) swap trailers with the Scottish, have a 45 min then drive back to Newmarket.
Many of the customer collections don`t need putting on the doors but just drop the trailers in the yard for shunters to get later.
p.m. if you want more info ?
dodged600:
Hi SuetayYou can get paid £11 per hour paye as an agency driver there and £13 per hour Saturday and Sunday all hours worked. Breaks are unpaid but obviously loading / tipping / poa is all paid.
A good way to get the experience is agency weekends doing the local drop / swaps and customer collections i.e Watton and Barway … not many people around at weekends and you can take as many goes at reversing as you want.
Another easy run is Newmarket to Barton Park ( Scotch Corner ) swap trailers with the Scottish, have a 45 min then drive back to Newmarket.
Many of the customer collections don`t need putting on the doors but just drop the trailers in the yard for shunters to get later.
p.m. if you want more info ?
hi dodged, thx for that, i’ll know more from Monday as I start my ‘training’ then
No wonder these companies take the ■■■■ when people are willing to work through the night & have no life for £7.00 an hour o.O
SouthEastCashew:
No wonder these companies take the ■■■■ when people are willing to work through the night & have no life for £7.00 an hour o.O
yes the basic is insulting,which is why I was asking about how they ‘top it up’. as far as i’m concerned i’m getting paid training,which sadly I need,until such time as I get my confidence,like all drivers I want to see a proper level of pay,and I hate the fact I have to go down this route,but I will do what I have to for my family,so insulting posts won’t make a difference
£7.80 p/h for class 1 nights working every Fri and Sat night?
Get out of here ya troll!!