This loveley restriction can be spotted at the start of the A433 road,this road clasified as a “Trunk Road”
What trunk road means? According to Wikipedia:
A trunk road, trunk highway, or strategic road is a major road, usually connecting two or more cities, ports, airports and other places, which is the recommended route for long-distance and freight traffic.
You can not go through Tetbury, becouse weight limits are everywhere.On the top of this, there is a 13"0’ bridge just before Cirencester.
What would you say to a new trucker, about how to plan suitable roads to the delivery point? Even, if you buy a map with all of the low bridges could be helpful, but what about the weight limits on trunk roads?
Well if a new trucker WON’T use a trucker sat nav or Google street view, my advise would be, “you’d better be extremely observant of absolutely everything relevant, otherwise you’re going to find yourself in DEEP [ZB]”.
One other option, the AA Truckers very large scale Atlas. I think that has all bridges and weight limits on it.
Simon:
Well if a new trucker WON’T use a trucker sat nav or Google street view, my advise would be, “you’d better be extremely observant of absolutely everything relevant, otherwise you’re going to find yourself in DEEP [ZB]”.
One other option, the AA Truckers very large scale Atlas. I think that has all bridges and weight limits on it.
A lot of them. But not all… As I have found out several times.
Simon:
(…)the AA Truckers very large scale Atlas. I think that has all bridges and weight limits on it.
Hi Simon,
thank you for your comment, but I’ve tried that:
I bought that,and I just tried to show off to my cousin how great it is. We found 3 bridges from 5 randomly picked ones had wrong heights on.
Wrong height: 51.31740, -0.56051 Woking
Another wrong one: 51.0609, -2.7237 Somerton
And we found a third one too.Can’t remember.
Very poor accuracy, I was planning to sending it back to AA. Low bridges only on A and B roads, and no weight limits at all.
Simon:
Well if a new trucker WON’T use a trucker sat nav or Google street view, my advise would be, “you’d better be extremely observant of absolutely everything relevant, otherwise you’re going to find yourself in DEEP [ZB]”.
One other option, the AA Truckers very large scale Atlas. I think that has all bridges and weight limits on it.
A lot of them. But not all… As I have found out several times.
apologies. I meant the Phillips atlas. That has all the weight and size limits. The AA atlas is not as good…
The Philips map is not 100% on weight limits but thats in print as is the AA and cant be expected to be live updated.
Using old and new methods together works as long as you have eyes and half a brain
The A433 is purely a NIMBY limit, like the A46 in Painswick. Gloucestershire had big weight limit bonanza a few years ago, they’d rather we all sat in a line on the M5 watching some ■■■■■■■ have his caravan picked up off the motorway.
The A417/A419 is odd. I think the A417 is three different roads, as it was hacked about when the Blunsdon bypass was built (and then the NIMBY limits came in).
Problem now is that the A429 Fosseway gets closed regularly because Mr Motorcyclist likes to fall off and send his head up his ■■■■■■, and now the limit for us is 50 we get stuck behind Mr and Mrs Werthers-Original dawdling along in their motability car.
Surely it would make sense to use all the information sources you can get when planning routes, whether it’s old school or new tech. But if you only want one source, then the Philips truckers atlas is probably the best bet.
Just loved the description of the caravan driver Wardaddy Another word we are not allowed to use these days. Any one else see Channel 4 episode last week of It was alright in the 1970s? The Fawlty Towers banned sketch was priceless.
Wardaddy:
The A433 is purely a NIMBY limit, like the A46 in Painswick. Gloucestershire had big weight limit bonanza a few years ago, they’d rather we all sat in a line on the M5 watching some ■■■■■■■ have his caravan picked up off the motorway.
The A417/A419 is odd. I think the A417 is three different roads, as it was hacked about when the Blunsdon bypass was built (and then the NIMBY limits came in).
Problem now is that the A429 Fosseway gets closed regularly because Mr Motorcyclist likes to fall off and send his head up his ■■■■■■, and now the limit for us is 50 we get stuck behind Mr and Mrs Werthers-Original dawdling along in their motability car.
N0rbert:
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A433
Badminton GL9 1AG, UK
51.575525, -2.301398
This loveley restriction can be spotted at the start of the A433 road,this road clasified as a “Trunk Road”
What trunk road means? According to Wikipedia:
A trunk road, trunk highway, or strategic road is a major road, usually connecting two or more cities, ports, airports and other places, which is the recommended route for long-distance and freight traffic.
The A433 isn’t a trunk road; it’s just a primary route under local authority (in this case county) control. A trunk road in England is a road under central government control - in that region, the M4, M5 and A417/A419. All the others have been down-graded.
N0rbert:
0You can not go through Tetbury, becouse weight limits are everywhere.On the top of this, there is a 13"0’ bridge just before Cirencester.
If you just carry on up the road for another mile or two and turn right at the lights you can cut across the top of Tetbury and miss the weight limit. Even without the limit it’s probably a better route since it cuts out the high street (or the car park as it’s know by all the coffin dodgers who live there).
Obviously this doesn’t help much with the low bridge.
N0rbert:
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A433
Badminton GL9 1AG, UK
51.575525, -2.301398
This loveley restriction can be spotted at the start of the A433 road,this road clasified as a “Trunk Road”
What trunk road means? According to Wikipedia:
A trunk road, trunk highway, or strategic road is a major road, usually connecting two or more cities, ports, airports and other places, which is the recommended route for long-distance and freight traffic.
The A433 isn’t a trunk road; it’s just a primary route under local authority (in this case county) control. A trunk road in England is a road under central government control - in that region, the M4, M5 and A417/A419. All the others have been down-graded.
that is my ‘something new learnt for today’ I always presumed primary was the same as trunk, now I know the difference. However as a ‘primary route’ I would still expect it to be open to all lorries, does seem odd to have restrictions, especially as low as 18T (does at a glance look like 1.8t)
a trunk road only has 1 or 2 numbers for example A1, A13, A47.
an A road with 3 or 4 numbers is an artery road which can and does contain restrictions for heavy vehicles.
Wardaddy:
The A433 is purely a NIMBY limit, like the A46 in Painswick. Gloucestershire had big weight limit bonanza a few years ago, they’d rather we all sat in a line on the M5 watching some ■■■■■■■ have his caravan picked up off the motorway.
The A417/A419 is odd. I think the A417 is three different roads, as it was hacked about when the Blunsdon bypass was built (and then the NIMBY limits came in).
Problem now is that the A429 Fosseway gets closed regularly because Mr Motorcyclist likes to fall off and send his head up his ■■■■■■, and now the limit for us is 50 we get stuck behind Mr and Mrs Werthers-Original dawdling along in their motability car.
Dont think Blunsdon was ever on the A417,as after/before Cirencester,it goes through Fairford,Lechlade Faringdon.
lizard:
a trunk road only has 1 or 2 numbers for example A1, A13, A47.
an A road with 3 or 4 numbers is an artery road which can and does contain restrictions for heavy vehicles.
Hmmm, Not sure. It would appear the new definition of a trunk road is a road maintained by “Highways England” see map and a gov.uk/government/uploads/s … rk_map.pdf
and does contain some three digit roads such as the A303 and A120
However other roads that I had always assumed to be Trunk are now known as Primary. A68, A697 etc.
Like most things now it is a bureaucratic mess. So in essence I still think all these Trunk and primary (the ones with the green backed signs) should be of a high enough standard to take all vehicles and in particular all HGVs
lizard:
a trunk road only has 1 or 2 numbers for example A1, A13, A47.
an A road with 3 or 4 numbers is an artery road which can and does contain restrictions for heavy vehicles.
How many digits in the number makes no difference. The A303 is a trunk road; the A6 isn’t anymore (the stretch from Luton to Stockport was until the 90s). It’s motorways (with a few exceptions, such as the M275) and A-roads that make up major routes that aren’t better served by motorways (again with exceptions, like the A5 between St Albans and the M6). If you Google “UK trunk roads” you can find an up-to-date list.
Bluey Circles:
Like most things now it is a bureaucratic mess. So in essence I still think all these Trunk and primary (the ones with the green backed signs) should be of a high enough standard to take all vehicles and in particular all HGVs
I would say they should all be marked on maps (as they were until the 80s) and signs, so drivers know which are reliable through routes (free of restrictions) and which are local roads. In other countries they are called things like national highways and clearly signposted.
As I have found out several times.
