A Transport Manager is urging lorry drivers to take care on one of the main routes in and out of Hull.
Motorists travelling along Hedon Road in east Hull were hit by long delays today (23 MAY 14) after a lorry overturned on the Southcoates Lane roundabout near Hull Prison.
In February this year, another lorry shed its load of timber on the same roundabout.
Phil O’Connell, transport manager of Beverley haulage firm Musgrave’s, said: "The ideal situation would be to get rid of the roundabouts and have slip roads, but that would cost millions of pounds.
"Car drivers and wagon drivers need to take care on the roundabouts.
"You have some car drivers who chop across lanes and try to get ahead of the wagons which, in some cases, forces the lorries to hit on the brakes.
"Lorries need quite a bit of stopping distance and car drivers need to be aware of that.
“On the other hand, you get some lorry drivers going too quickly.”
I can see why he’s a transport manager.
OK accidents do and will happen, not commenting on the accident in question, but I think the main problem is ■■■■ poor truck driving, and drivers that do not have the brain power to know that you do not drive a truck in the same way that you drive a car 
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How often do you see these special needs types driving their motor as if it is a stolen go kart ffs.
"You have some car drivers who chop across lanes and try to get ahead of the wagons which, in some cases, forces the lorries to hit on the brakes.
Sorry pal but hitting the brakes normally does not cause a lorry to turn over!
What does cause a lorry to turn over is bad driving and bad anticipation from both lorry drivers and car drivers.
Speed probably has a great deal to do with it as well!
There are 1000’s of lorry drivers that have been driving for years and never turned their truck over.
Is it me or is it becoming far more common these days?
Was one jackknifed as well yesterday on the way out of hull on the A63…don’t know what caused it but I bet the driver needed a new pair of pants.
albion1971:
There are 1000’s of lorry drivers that have been driving for years and never turned their truck over.
Is it me or is it becoming far more common these days?
Think it has to do more with national coverage of the event. If a truck tipped over in Penzance it would just be local news to Penzance, if a lorry hit it bridge in York, that too would be purely local news for York. With the advent of the net however, ‘everyone and their cousin’ gets to hear about it.
albion1971:
"You have some car drivers who chop across lanes and try to get ahead of the wagons which, in some cases, forces the lorries to hit on the brakes.
Sorry pal but hitting the brakes normally does not cause a lorry to turn over!
What does cause a lorry to turn over is bad driving and bad anticipation from both lorry drivers and car drivers.
Speed probably has a great deal to do with it as well!
There are 1000’s of lorry drivers that have been driving for years and never turned their truck over.
Is it me or is it becoming far more common these days?
Agree with most of what you say but hitting the brakes hard at a critical point and speed on a roundabout could easily cause a roll over.
Roll overs on roundabouts by articulated vehicles has always been a problem and has been scientifically investigated many times in the 40+ years that I have been driving them.
No one has come up with a definitive answer to the causes as the factors are many and varied. From what I remember of the published investigations roll overs can quite often occur at low speeds when other factors, such as braking, are taken into account.
I would say that excessive speed is the cause in most instances though.
Saw this on Youtube the other day. Hardly surprising some end up on their side.
yorkshire terrier:
Was one jackknifed as well yesterday on the way out of hull on the A63…don’t know what caused it but I bet the driver needed a new pair of pants.
That was 1 of ours , 1 of my mates phoned me about it and apparently another truck hit the back of the trailer when pulling out of Melton services, how true it is I don’t know
Dieseldoforme:
Hay boss I’m getting board with this now. 
H&S would have a fit with that bod on top the side of the trailer 
Smoggie89:
yorkshire terrier:
Was one jackknifed as well yesterday on the way out of hull on the A63…don’t know what caused it but I bet the driver needed a new pair of pants.
That was 1 of ours , 1 of my mates phoned me about it and apparently another truck hit the back of the trailer when pulling out of Melton services, how true it is I don’t know
Wards?? It was a renault,didn’t really see much when I past
Could start by slowing down southwalesargus.co.uk/news/1 … e/?ref=mry here’s another one for club plant pot
yorkshire terrier:
Smoggie89:
yorkshire terrier:
Was one jackknifed as well yesterday on the way out of hull on the A63…don’t know what caused it but I bet the driver needed a new pair of pants.
That was 1 of ours , 1 of my mates phoned me about it and apparently another truck hit the back of the trailer when pulling out of Melton services, how true it is I don’t know
Wards?? It was a renault,didn’t really see much when I past
Yeah I seen a few pictures what 1of the fitters took , I didn’t see another 1 involved just what I got told 
it’s a straight road so don’t know how it happend , either got hit or slammed on the brakes ? It was agency who was driving
nick2008:
Smoggie89:
Yeah I seen a few pictures what 1of the fitters took , I didn’t see another 1 involved just what I got told it’s a straight road so don’t know how it happend , either got hit or slammed on the brakes ? It was agency who was driving
so why is the paint showing a curve at the junction
and the point is please chose your answer very carefully as there are many accidents showing worse that have EMPLOYED COMPANY (so called) DRIVERS have caused
I didn’t see it in person what I got told , if it happend outside the services then it is more or less straight , and it doesn’t make any difference if agency or not (he is in nearly everyday) was just saying 
nick2008:
Smoggie89:
Yeah I seen a few pictures what 1of the fitters took , I didn’t see another 1 involved just what I got told it’s a straight road so don’t know how it happend , either got hit or slammed on the brakes ? It was agency who was driving
so why is the paint showing a curve at the junction
and the point is please chose your answer very carefully as there are many accidents showing worse that have EMPLOYED COMPANY (so called) DRIVERS have caused
I didn’t see it in person what I got told , if it happend outside the services then it is more or less straight , and it doesn’t make any difference if agency or not (he is in nearly everyday) was just saying
Smoggie89:
nick2008:
Smoggie89:
Yeah I seen a few pictures what 1of the fitters took , I didn’t see another 1 involved just what I got told it’s a straight road so don’t know how it happend , either got hit or slammed on the brakes ? It was agency who was driving
so why is the paint showing a curve at the junction
and the point is please chose your answer very carefully as there are many accidents showing worse that have EMPLOYED COMPANY (so called) DRIVERS have caused
I didn’t see it in person what I got told , if it happend outside the services then it is more or less straight , and it doesn’t make any difference if agency or not (he is in nearly everyday) was just saying
just makes it sound like its a because its an Agency driver type of dig fella that’s all …
That type of load will shift just by looking at it. always made sure that had straps all over it.
Just been speaking to 1 of the fitters and apparently too fast for conditions … Least he was okay anyways
I’ll admit to having mine go over on Tinsley viaduct roundabout below the M1 about 5 year ago. I was going back up onto the M1 northbound and I was coming from Tinsley.
The lights were at red on the approach to the roundabout directly under the viaduct so obviously I stopped. They go to green and I set off checking both mirrors so I don’t clip the curb and for cars coming around the outside.
As I approach the last set of lights before the N/B entry slip I notice a cop car and another car in the first lane on the slip, the car driver is changing a flat tyre.
I check my o/s mirror to see if I can get into the other lane to get passed the obstruction (which I could) I proceed to move into the other lane when all of a sudden the steering wheel goes the other way, I look in my mirror to see the back end of the trailer lifting up off the floor and all I could do was brace myself.
Due to me not wearing my seatbelt I fell into the passenger side of the truck and every loose thing in the truck fell on top of me. I had 2 deep cuts to my head that needed stitching at Rotherham general hospital and I realise it could’ve been a whole lot worse.
I was carrying 3 packs of wooden slats that they use for the trailer floors for Montrecon, these were the whole length of the trailer and it took 3 forklifts to load one at a time.
These were still strapped to the bed when the recovery firm got the truck upright so my lids was properly secure.
Bad driving on my part■■? You could say that, I even thought bad of myself for something like this happening to me and all the grief it caused everyone on that Friday tea time. But I will add that after the police investigation I did not get fined or charged, I was doing 20mph in dry, good road conditions when it went over so I wasn’t speeding and I always think that if the police car and the other car were not there it would’ve never happened.
People on here will say I should’ve seen the obstruction sooner and planned for it, yes I will agree, but I will also point out that due to the layout of that roundabout coming from Tinsley and a load of trees on the roundabout, you can’t see the most of the slip road until you are on the last set of lights. I guess the me having to change the direction I was traveling and not taking a steady line through the roundabout had me over.
As they say, “You live and learn”! 
